LeGarrette "LGBT" Blount: Blue is the New Black

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bakahump said:
It would be funny if Gray is released or sent to the practice squad to make room for Blount.
 
And I say that as a huge Gray fan.
 
Sosh would burn.....and I would be one of the guys with a torch....however....
 
Would anything else be a more "Belicheckian" move?
 
That would be one way to deal with this:
 
 

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BigSoxFan said:
Cool. You want to hand out batting titles to guys with 80 ABs while you're at it?
 
Data points have been shared in this thread which shows your statement that Amendola was a "useless ass" when compared to Blount was incorrect.
 
You made an uninformed, dumb statement and got called on it. Now you are doubling down.
 
Own the statement and move on. 
 

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Gray isn't getting cut ever, it wouldn't actually be a typical BB move because typical BB moves aren't super stupid.
 
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Ebner and Don Jones are key S/T guys. I know Jones was inactive last week but my current working theory is that had to do with game plan quirks - Fleming as extra tackle on all those run plays and/or carrying an extra DB (though I don't know if they actually did - you're welcome). For the most part, Don Jones has been a very, very good special teams guy for us this year.

Long story short, I seriously doubt either of those players gets cut when the Siliga roster crunch hits.
 

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Just following along here, but Tyms seems like a cut candidate. Other than the one long TD reception he hasn't done much. He's not a special teams contributor and if he's cut, you'd still have Dobson on the active roster and Boyce on the practice squad. Plus, I doubt Tyms gets picked up so he could potentially land on practice squad.
 

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I think this is a great move. The importance of the running game will only increase from here on out as the weather gets bad.

And Blount is a different style of runner than Gray - even though they are both big, Blount seems more likely to break one for 20+. His great game against Tampa last year was in terrible weather, too.

I don't see a downside to this move - Blount has a bad reputation but he was a good citizen last year.
 

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Gray isn't getting cut ever, it wouldn't actually be a typical BB move because typical BB moves aren't super stupid.
Relax it was a joke.
 
Hopefully so was your response because that a pretty strong statement.
 
Again I really like Gray.  I liked him since the 3rd (I think) Preseason game and hoped he would eventually get a shot.  (I never imagined he might run for 200 yards....like ever...)  BUT I could certainly see multiple scenarios where he is eventually cut.  Probably not this season but if he is shown to be just a JAG RB....
 

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Just following along here, but Tyms seems like a cut candidate. Other than the one long TD reception he hasn't done much. He's not a special teams contributor and if he's cut, you'd still have Dobson on the active roster and Boyce on the practice squad. Plus, I doubt Tyms gets picked up so he could potentially land on practice squad.
I don't think they cut Tyms. He may be a one trick pony, but he was open on Brady's first interception Sunday. If Brady has a little more time we are talking about his second TD catch and he beat double coverage (I think) so even without much production he is drawing attention.
 

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You are assuming that he would catch the ball.  He did have a drop the only other time he was targeted.
 

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Koufax said:
You are assuming that he would catch the ball.  He did have a drop the only other time he was targeted.
 
Like Gray, I thought Tyms had a terrific camp. 
 
Tyms has also shown he can fight and catch the ball in traffic. 
 
Like Gray, I do not think Tyms will be cut. 
 

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bakahump said:
Relax it was a joke.
 
Hopefully so was your response because that a pretty strong statement.
 
Again I really like Gray.  I liked him since the 3rd (I think) Preseason game and hoped he would eventually get a shot.  (I never imagined he might run for 200 yards....like ever...)  BUT I could certainly see multiple scenarios where he is eventually cut.  Probably not this season but if he is shown to be just a JAG RB....
He's never getting cut this season.  He is like most of the current roster in that he may get cut at an indeterminate future date.
 
Tyms is pretty unlikely to get cut at this point barring a real low probability injury driven roster crunch somewhere down the line,  Theyll just swap him for Dobson on gameday if need be.
 

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Cool. You want to hand out batting titles to guys with 80 ABs while you're at it?
 
Wait, you labeled him "useless". His SSS was okay then?
 
But talking about 80 ABs is fine. If someone is 40/80, SSS or not, it's not useless. It's not necessarily predictive, but as to actual production, it's clearly not useless. 
 
 
 
 
Blount averaged 29ypr to Amendola's 24.7 on over 3 times the sample size.
 
 
 
That has nothing to do with whether or not Amendola's ACTUAL PRODUCTION this year (which is what you were talking about) made him a useless ass. No one is saying Blount wouldn't help as another option back there. We are simply saying that he hasn't been bad.
 
Also, Blount had 2 returns for 145 yards in that one game. His numbers were skewed by one insane game.
 

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Yeah, this makes sense. I believe Bolden is also a FA. Plus Blount knows the system, so he can contribute immediately as opposed to someone like Tate who would have to learn it.
 
Bolden plays on "the big four" (kickoff, KR, punt, PR) - he's fourth on the team in special teams snaps. To replace him with one guy, you have to deactivate depth somewhere else, or have starters or other key contributors pick up more special teams duties. Game-day roster management is pretty much a zero sum game - of course it's great to add more depth at RB with a guy like Blount, but it costs you elsewhere.
I agree with this, and it's why I was advocating signing LGBT earlier this week.

I'll add that:

1) The Patriots had incredible depth at most positions, but after Ridley's injury seemed light at RB. As we discussed, White and Bolden were not genuine depth at the RB position (Bolden is Slater-esque and White is red-shirting).

2) Considering that Blount returns kickoffs, I don't agree with those who say that Blount doesn't play special teams.

3) As others have said, this is a no downside move. He's got a reasonable contract for this year and next and offers depth at a crucial position. Giddy up.
 

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1) The Patriots had incredible depth at most positions, but after Ridley's injury seemed light at RB. As we discussed, White and Bolden were not genuine depth at the RB position (Bolden is Slater-esque and White is red-shirting).
 
 
This is the part I've focused on as well, plus they add another punishing back to the rotation to keep him and Gray rested and ready to deal punishment with Vereen there to change up.  Watching this team even for a week evolve back to a running team was fun, it reminded me of the super-bowl seasons where they had good running games that could punish the D up-front and provide exceptional play action opportunities.  That dominating ground game has been missing, we'll have a big reality check this week against the Lions but with Brady it's interesting to think of how teams will gameplan to take away the Patriots offensive strength.  Go small, Gronk is too big for coverage and the Running game kills you, go heavy Gronk is too quick for the coverage and the passing game kills you.  Could be a fun shift in the offense, we'll see how the things roll from here - it is amazing the difference in a Gronk included offense for the Pats - he's just unreal.
 

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I guess this is the part of the programming where I point out that "useless ass" was hyperbolic. Sorry, that was lazy on my part. We're already on to the next post.
 
No, the lazy part is how you're citing Blount's numbers like they mean something as multiple people - in decreasingly polite ways - have pointed out your methodology is flawed.
 
Dogman2 had it right. We all make mistakes. Owning it allows the thread to "move on to the next post." Excuse making doesn't. 
 

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BigSoxFan said:
I guess this is the part of the programming where I point out that "useless ass" was hyperbolic. Sorry, that was lazy on my part. We're already on to the next post.
 
soxfan121 said:
Dogman2 had it right. We all make mistakes. Owning it allows the thread to "move on to the next post." Excuse making doesn't. 
 
Yup -- moving on to the next post, topic, or even an angle would be a good thing to do. 
 

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2) Considering that Blount returns kickoffs, I don't agree with those who say that Blount doesn't play special teams.
He can return kicks, but a) it's not clear he will do that for the Pats and b) that's all he does. He finished 36th on the team in special teams snaps last year even though he was active for all 18 games.
 

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soxfan121 said:
 
No, the lazy part is how you're citing Blount's numbers like they mean something as multiple people - in decreasingly polite ways - have pointed out your methodology is flawed.
 
Dogman2 had it right. We all make mistakes. Owning it allows the thread to "move on to the next post." Excuse making doesn't. 
 
 
You complimented me?  Excuse me while I blush a little bit. 
 
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Amendola's ass is still functional at expelling poop. Ergo, you are wrong.
 

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Earlier tonight on PTI, Wilbon asked Jason Whitlock (subbing in for Kornheiser) what he thought of the Pats signing "questionable character" Blount. Whitlock said, "Two words: Aaron Hernandez"

Hotsportztakez at its finest
 

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TomTerrific said:
Earlier tonight on PTI, Wilbon asked Jason Whitlock (subbing in for Kornheiser) what he thought of the Pats signing "questionable character" Blount. Whitlock said, "Two words: Aaron Hernandez"

Hotsportztakez at its finest
What does that even mean?
 

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8slim said:
What does that even mean?
 
Unfortunately it means Whitlock is an idiot.
 
He elaborated by saying, "I'm not surprised. If they were willing to have a character around like Aaron Hernandez, they'll have no problem having a LaGarrette Blount." I'm not even sure where to start with that one.
 

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Misbehaving because you are not playing is a particular sin - he wants to play. In a twisted way, it shows how motivated he is. Yes, it's selfish. But it's different than violence for instance.

My memory says that the Pats over the past few years have liked to rotate RB carries during the game from drive to drive when they have multiple trustworthy backs. My guess is that they will split carries between Blount and Gray the rest of the way. Pound Pound Pound!
 

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TomTerrific said:
 
Unfortunately it means Whitlock is an idiot.
 
He elaborated by saying, "I'm not surprised. If they were willing to have a character around like Aaron Hernandez, they'll have no problem having a LaGarrette Blount." I'm not even sure where to start with that one.
Well, anyone who calls an NFL QB gay as a joke clearly is qualified to assess character.
 

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Blount is now Aaron Hernandez?
 
Whitlock...wow. :rolling:
 

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Amendola's ass is still functional at expelling poop. Ergo, you are wrong.
 
Bah, he doesn't even know about the three seashells.
 
 

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This is a great move, IMO. Blount's running style is perfect for cold weather football and having the power running game to set up play action is what this offense does best. It's awesome what Gray did on Sunday, I thought he ran pretty well in the preseason as a couple of others have mentioned, but it's one game. If he can keep it up that's great, but if he can't, I really can't think of a better insurance option than LGB. Obviously Gray can't be expected to carry the ball 30+ times a game. Blount excelled in the system last year, so hopefully it doesn't take him long to get up to speed. With the o-line, Gronk and Develin playing like they are having a guy like Blount to finish games should be fun to watch. 
 

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Sorry but no. Blount averaged 29ypr to Amendola's 24.7 on over 3 times the sample size. He was better and I stick by my comment. But I'll also let Belichick be the judge. If Amendola remains KR after Blount has a week under his belt, I'll "own the statement".
 
lol boo hoo
 

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I believe that's more "just lost the AFC Championship game" sour grapes from Kordell Stewart.
Yes. On a day when he was the third best quarterback in the game.