Seems like the schedule is going to be unchanged, they're just going to re-schedule the first week.
MLB and MLBPA have a deal
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I know that I'll get used to it after a few weeks--I barely notice the jersey ads in the NBA and in the EPL--but I guess Nike greased the skids for this a few seasons ago with the swoosh on the front of the jersey. There's always a buck to be made.
Also the COVID lawsuit was dropped but not the rev sharing one mentioned earlier today
View: https://twitter.com/stephapstein/status/1502022840954064904?
View: https://twitter.com/stephapstein/status/1502022840954064904?
There is an entire package of Rays-thwarting measures here--banning the shift, limiting # of times player can be optioned to minors, increased CBT thresholds, tweaks to revenue sharing, international draft, etc. But you can't fight the last war, with new rules come new opportunities to be exploited.
Just a guess, but as we've discussed at length on this board, the union was broadly understood to have given away the farm in the 2016 CBA. Six years later, people have not forgotten that. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that this was a kind of ass-covering vote to position the union as officially against this deal even as informal polling made it clear that the deal had the support of the players. If the deal proves a success longterm--great, the union negotiated it! If it proves a failure? "Don't blame the union, we recommended not supporting it!" Again, just a guess.
I think it’s the kris Bryant rule.
Ie a player who is clearly ready being held down in the minors for service time reasons.
View: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1502035484985499658
Ie a player who is clearly ready being held down in the minors for service time reasons.
View: https://twitter.com/Feinsand/status/1502035484985499658
I would've liked to see the players get more too - but more than half of the players last year had < 3years service time. Those guys are getting a nice raise with higher minimums and the bonus pool for top performers. The Phillips Valdezes of the world are voting for this deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
I don't know. People always think they'll hate this, but Americans rock soccer kits a lot these days and it's all about the sponsor on them.
So NL teams need to start signing some sluggers. Who are the free agent mashers besides Schwarber and Nelson Cruz?
Seems like its a better deal and the players made some significant progress on important issues. I don't think its realistic to assume that all of the issues would be addressed and fixed in this CBA. There is simply too much money at stake for all the parties to continue to play chicken with the season.
My point exactly! ‘22 is a good year to clear the $230M threshold. We’re pretty poised to get under again by ‘24.
A bit late to this but I just got out of a meeting and was texting my friend (who's been attending Patriot's Day games with me for 30+ years) to say it's on.
It kind of felt like a capitulation to me at first, but upon reviewing the details I do believe that the players got a pretty good deal, as much as I'd hoped they'd have gotten more out of the owners.
Yeah but that Celtics patch annoys me every time I see it.
edit - six playoff teams is way better than seven.
BASEBALL BASEBALL BASEBALL!!!!!!!!
Even better -- Red Sox baseball!!!!!
I am very excited.
The decals on the hats, chests, and sleeves in the KBL are definitely a little distracting and not color coordinated to the jerseys:
Whereas the NBA I think dealt with this fairly well, color coordinating and blending them in a bit (edit: and hah, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as @snowmanny and I disagree on this patch being fine to me):
Even better -- Red Sox baseball!!!!!
I am very excited.
As long as baseball is back, for me the Red Sox could wear DraftKings onsies and I would be fine with it. (Not totally serious but it's not in the same... BALLPARK... for me.)
The decals on the hats, chests, and sleeves in the KBL are definitely a little distracting and not color coordinated to the jerseys:
Whereas the NBA I think dealt with this fairly well, color coordinating and blending them in a bit (edit: and hah, beauty is in the eye of the beholder as @snowmanny and I disagree on this patch being fine to me):
We talked about this a little bit in the now-moot thread. Its a pool of $ that can be distributed to guys who aren't eligible for arbitration - the 78% of players that aren't eligible for Super 2 and below in service time.
I haven't seen any details but IIRC, the NFL has something like this so I imagine it will be based on metrics so that guys who play better will get something. It's good to bring up the salaries of the low service time players.
As fans, this is the best we could have hoped for:
162 game season (barring some horrific new variant)
None of the gimmicky rules of the last two seasons
12-team playoffs instead of 14
Universal DH
Chance to a pitch clock in 2023
And, most importantly, five years before we have to worry about this again.
If the first week of April is cold and rainy in Boston, we'll be glad the opener got pushed back.
162 game season (barring some horrific new variant)
None of the gimmicky rules of the last two seasons
12-team playoffs instead of 14
Universal DH
Chance to a pitch clock in 2023
And, most importantly, five years before we have to worry about this again.
If the first week of April is cold and rainy in Boston, we'll be glad the opener got pushed back.
Service time stuff is interesting for the Sox with Casas. Do they hold off on calling him up until he’s no longer a ROY candidate? Or do they call him up to start the year and maybe get an extra pick?
I'll need more clarity, but so far I'm really happy. No DH, no stupid seven inning games, no stupid extra innings rules.
I can live with the 12 team playoffs if, as I understand, there's one bye and three three game series. They should give the home team all three games in that three game round though, make it mean more.
I can live with the 12 team playoffs if, as I understand, there's one bye and three three game series. They should give the home team all three games in that three game round though, make it mean more.
weird to call it the rocker rule when the whole problem was that he didn’t have a physical, no?
I can't even remember the last time I even thought about the little one the Celtics have on their shoulder (before just now).
I love the deal. In order of best things:
1) no more extra inning runner
2) no more 7 inning double headers
3) universal dh
4) pitch clock
5) banned shift (I don’t like this)
So excited for the season to start
1) no more extra inning runner
2) no more 7 inning double headers
3) universal dh
4) pitch clock
5) banned shift (I don’t like this)
So excited for the season to start
Two byes in each league and the other 4 play 2 of 3, a big improvement on the previous system I think.
I don't think there was any conventional wisdom suggesting his callup was imminent. I guess if he goes crazy in spring maybe he pressures them into a decision, but otherwise I doubt it will be an issue.
To be clear, no pitch clock or banned shifts this year, very likely in 2023.
He’s expected mid-2022, and guys have won ROY by having great partial seasons. If he does that, Sox lose a year of service time. It’s unlikely, but something that they have to think about. I’m more wondering if the keep him down longer, not really if they call him up for opening day (although if he’s ready for that I’d be psyched)
I'm interested to see how this actually reads. When are these picks? Or are they just potential picks?
Agreed with almost all of this.
Although my secret shame is that:
1) I grew to like the "Ghost Runner on 2nd" extra innings rule. (ducks) I hated hated hated it as Mickey Mouse silliness initially, but eventually -- like shootouts in the regular season in the NHL -- I found it made the regular season extra innings games exciting and relatively fast affairs. Wouldn't mind seeing it put in place starting in the 11th inning or something.
2) I loved the single elimination Wild Card playoffs. They were dramatic appointment viewing despite the foolishness of teams ending their season because of one game (again, for the first century of baseball if you didn't win your Division you didn't make the playoffs at all, so this didn't bother me).
But under this rule, he would have been incentivized to get one, which would probably have been to both his and the Mets benefit. Or, he would have shown red flags by not getting one, which would probably still have been to both his and the Mets benefit as he'd likely have been drafted much later and whoever drafted him would be more comfortable rolling the dice at the lower slot price and signing him despite the bad MRI's or whatever. So although the rule wouldn't have applied to him directly, if it had been on the books, his awkward situation would likely have been avoided.
The latter is a drag.
I do like that we got to even up the one game playoffs with the MFY before they ended
This is the conventional wisdom, but not every AL team has a slugger/masher or even a specific player in their DH slot, so I don't think every NL team is going to do that either. Of course the Schwarbers and Castellanos will be signed, but I don't see a run on them coming. NL teams were already carrying at least four bench guys for pinch-hitting and double switching purposes. Odds are a few of those roster spots will go to relievers.