NFL Coaching Changes: Chips a'Hoy

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Some more rumors on firings after the Sunday game

“@alexmarvez: Speaking with multiple folks around NFL, sounds like Mike McCoy is coaching his final game for @Chargers. We’ll see. @NFLonFOX”

“@MaryKayCabot: Some #Browns staffers emerge from a Friday meeting with Pettine believing he’ll be fired, sources say https://t.co/DWG86tniz7
 

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“@pfrumors: Giants’ Tom Coughlin Could Resign Monday https://t.co/imTMoAFhQL https://t.co/NSeEmDa9OT

It appears the Giants’ matchup with the NFC East rival Eagles on Sunday will bring about the end of Tom Coughlin’s 12-year tenure with Big Blue. The two-time Super Bowl winner will resign after the game, sources tell Fox Sports’ Mike Garafolo.
 

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So, here's a stab at handicapping HC jobs that will/may be open, from most to least likely:

Definite Openings (100%)
- Philadelphia: Wouldn't have pegged this as very likely a few days ago, but here we are.
- Miami: Ownership is reportedly going to allow Dan Campbell to interview for the job on a permanent basis, but he seems like an extremely unlikely candidate based on the team's performance and his lack of qualification.
Tennessee: Interim coach Mike Mularkey is unlikely to be a candidate to fill the position on a more permanent basis. Widely buzzed about Chip Kelly destination. We'll soon find out.

Where There is Smoke... (95%)
- San Diego: I don't think Mike McCoy is a bad coach, but that team has severely underperformed, and may want a fresh start with a potential move to LA in the balance.
- Cleveland: Mike Pettine walked into a terrible situation, and actually made chicken salad last year with a 7-9 record. But this season has been a huge step back for the defense, and his handling of the Manziel situation has been to the detriment of both the team and player (Manziel needed to play earlier, to establish his value as either a trade asset or long-term solution for the Browns).
Indianapolis: There have long been reports about internal strife between Chuck Pagano and GM Ryan Grigson, who may follow his coach out the door. Situation seems untenable.
- New York Giants: Reports breaking on Twitter that Tom Coughlin will resign on Monday. Regardless of their veracity, it just feels like his time has run its course with the Giants (and at age 69, he's probably on to retirement).

Too Little, Too Late (70%)
- Detroit: Reports suggest Martha Ford is hell bent on reforming the culture of permissiveness and lack of accountability that festered under her late husband's ownership. Jim Caldwell is held in high regard by many in league circles, and was a key piece in Baltimore's last Super Bowl win as OC, but it's hard to overlook his history of high-profile tactical missteps as a HC.

Flip a Coin (49%)
- San Francisco: I think the only thing that saves Jim Tomsula's job is the fact that Jed Yorke doesn't want to concede (yet) how badly he mismanaged the Jim Harbaugh situation, and subsequent hiring process. Tomsula is in over his head.

Gut Says No, But It Wouldn't be a Shock (40%)
- New Orleans: Drew Brees is 36 years old and will either be cut or need to renegotiate his contract in the offseason. The Saints are in salary cap hell, so this may be a more difficult negotiation than meets the eye. A lot of reports suggesting Sean Payton might just want a clean break and move on to greener pastures. I can see the logic in wanting to leave, but my feeling is owner Tom Benson keeps Payton & Brees together.

Seems Like He's Safe (25%)
- St. Louis: Jeff Fisher's Rams have been maddeningly inconsistent and have earned a reputation for dirty play. But their owner seems more preoccupied with moving the franchise than the actual product on the field. Fisher seems safe.

In Too Deep to Even Consider a Change, Right? (15%)
- Buffalo: Rex Ryan's first year has been an abject disappointment, but it appears the Pegula's would like to instill more stability in the organization. Plus, there are 4 years and $20mil+ left on Rex's contact. That's a ton of $ to just eat.
- Dallas: I never got the sense that Jerry Jones was enamored with Jason Garrett (and has made some borderline disparaging public comments to that end), but last year's over-achieving team really forced Jones' hand into giving him an extension. Garrett handles the scrutiny and organizational weirdness as well as anyone can be expected to, so I think he will be there for at least as long as Romo is the presumed starter. But I can't rule out Jerry doing something impulsive and reeling in a big fish with a ludicrous financial offer (i.e., Cowher, Gruden or Saban), or Garrett simply deciding he's sick of it and telling Jerry to screw.

Hard to Imagine, but Not Inconceivable (5%)
- Baltimore: Mike Florio addressed this briefly on his radio show last week. However unlikely, every coach does have an expiration date, and it really has been a hellish season for the Ravens. Some recent misses in the draft and a looming renegotiation with a rehabbing Flacco muddy the near-term outlook a bit.
- Pittsburgh: They're a model of organizational stability from ownership down, but hard to argue they haven't underachieved the past two seasons.
- Cincinnati: The Dalton injury probably spares Marvin Lewis, even if they do get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs yet again.
- Green Bay: Coaches who have overseen as much success as Mike McCarthy has had with the Packers are rarely fired after playoff seasons. That said, there is a lingering sense that this team has underachieved the last few years, with arguably the best QB in the NFL. McCarthy's rigidly conservative play-calling was a key factor in squandering last year's NFC title game against Seattle. How many more prime years does Aaron Rodgers have left?

Too Soon (<2%)
- Tampa Bay: Lovie Smith will be on the hot seat next year, if they fail to compete for a playoff berth. He's safe for now, though, thanks to the development of young talent under his watch this year.
- Atlanta: It isn't the W-L record, but how they got there, that paints Dan Quinn's first season as less than a success.
 
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Aside from (obviously) Philly, those percentages seem rather inflated across the board. For example, if you're giving 19-to-1 odds that McCoy, Pettine and Coughlin will not coach their current teams next year, I'd be happy to bet $5 to win $95 on each of them.

Likewise down the list: Caldwell may go 7-9, with a solid 6-2 run after starting the season 1-7. He went 11-5 last year and got jobbed out of a playoff win; I'm not impressed with in-game tactics but his team is no disaster. Tomsula may be the worst current head coach in the NFL, but he's in his FIRST year and (assuming a loss to STL) will go 4-12, disappointing but not unprecedented for a new coach there. No way does he go the way of Rod Rust and not even get a second year. Likewise Rex Ryan. Jeff Fisher has just had a semi-public vote of confidence from his owner. I'd also argue that changes in Cincinnati and Green Bay are even lower than the 5% you've pegged them at, but that's of course impossible to prove.

I would happily wager for charity against all your odds I mention here. If you add up the implied # of firings, it would vastly exceed the number of annual coaching changes we've seen in the last decade or so. I think you've pegged the handful of likeliest changes, but those odds just seem squirrely.
 

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Fair to quibble with the percentages -- the 95% estimates might be more appropriately pegged lower, but I stand by the rest. That said, it's my prediction there will be at least 7 openings as of Tuesday, more likely 8 or 9.

Also, the one-and-done firings are more common than you might believe, with Mike Mularkey (2012 Jags) and Rob Cudzinski (2013 Browns) the most recent examples.

Regardless, won't be long until we find out. This long be one of my favorite parlor games of the NFL season.
 

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And how do you have a coin flip at 49%? Does that mean the coin lands on its edge 2% of the time?
Just a hedge that I think it's slightly more likely than not he's retained; a hard situation to forecast, given the Front Office opacity and dysfunction. (And well within the margin of reasonable expectations for 100 randomized binary outcomes.)

Tough crowd, I guess. Would love to see how others rate these respective probabilities.
 

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- New York Giants: Reports breaking on Twitter that Tom Coughlin will resign on Monday. Regardless of their veracity, it just feels like his time has run its course with the Giants (and at age 69, he's probably on to retirement).
Since 2008 when they lost in the divisional round as a 12-4 team, the Giants have won 10 games once (2010) and been to the playoffs once (you know when with a 9-7 record). Pretty amazing that Coughlin has held on so long, really, even with the Super Bowl victories.
 

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Tough crowd, I guess. Would love to see how others rate these respective probabilities.
I doubt it's the who's safe/who's not guesses that are at issue ... it's the math.

If you had listed them from least likely to most likely -- without the percentages, but with a line of demarcation at 50% -- you would have avoided the snarky comebacks
 

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Sure, if you take all of the stacked probabilities in the aggregate, it nets out to an expectation of ~9.17 new head coaches hired this offseason. That's probably a little higher than I intended when I started writing the post, and I admitted as much by saying I'd probably peg the 95% estimates a little lower. But I firmly believe the "right" number is a lot closer to 9 than 7, and provided support to my line of thinking.

Perhaps I'm wildly off-base; I guess we'll see in a few days.

Edit: Which is to say, the very reason I went about it with this level of specificity was to spark debate, rather than taking the tack Yaz recommended. Again, would welcome alternative views, if anyone parses some of the less clear cut situations differently.
 
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Hey, if nobody found your post interesting, you wouldn't get replies. I can't fault the attempt, I was just commenting on it. Always easier to be a critic than an author.

Among the situations you've listed, I'm most interested in getting a better understanding of Miami (partly for the sake of tomorrow's game) and Tennessee. Interim coaches have, I think, recently had about a 50-50 shot of getting the permanent gig. You've pegged those two at a near-zero chance of keeping their interim guy. I can see the argument more in Miami, where you've got not an OC or DC but a positional coach promoted to steer the ship (which feels like madness in the first place); having a tougher time not giving Mularkey a fair shot at the job though. What are you reading or seeing that led you to those conclusions?
 

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No link and I may be off base but I thought it was pretty widely agreed that neither Campbell nor Mularkey would be retained as the HC.
 

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Who are the top candidates for new jobs?

a quick list off the top of my head:


- Hue Jackson, Cincy OC - Raiders HC in 2011. Lots to like in terms of his playcalling. Lots not to like in terms of leadership and organization

- Adam Gase, Chicago OC - Would be the Niners HC if he had agreed to take on Tomsula as DC/AHC last year. Has made Jay Cutler palatable and has 4+ years learning from John Fox.

-Josh McDaniels, NE OC - Failed badly in Denver, where he had way too much power as a first time HC, obviously a great game planner and play caller

Teryl Austin Det DC - should have been hired last year, has done great things in Detroit even as the talent level has decreased

Doug Marrone Jax DC- His decision to get away from Buffalo, and the job he did there in 2014, looks better after a year of Rex's work in Orchard Park

Sean McDermott, Car DC - Had built a consistently good defense that seems specifically designed to work well against modern NFL offenses. You could also see OC Shula getting a job as well.

Wade Phillips, Den DC - Bum's son has done a great job in Denver and probably deserves a third chance as a HC, though I wonder if he has too much of the Norv Turner "great coordinator, lousy HC" stink on him.


MMQB did this list as well:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/12/30/nfl-head-coach-candidates-list-black-monday

What are the best jobs, at least of the 25% and above rankings in the excellent OP?

1. Indy - you have Andrew Luck, which makes dealing with Irsay worth it.
2. Giants - You have a multiple SuperBowl winning QB, the best young skill position player in the league and a quality owner & GM to work for
3. St Louis- the best overall roster, probably a QB away from a multiple year playoff run
4. San Diego - You have Phillip Rivers, who is worth several wins a year by himself, and some other pieces like Kennan Allen and Jason Verrett, though you are stuck with the underwhelming GM Tom Tolesco
5. Tennessee - Mariotta and another top 2 pick to build with, probably deserves to be higher on this list
6. New Orleans- you are walking into a rebuilding situation, so they will have to give you time, and Loomis is a good GM
7. Miami - A top heavy roster with very limited flexibility going forward, trapped under Ireland and Ross. If you can maintain great injury luck, and somehow develop Ryan Tannehill to take the next step, this team could win
8. Philly - Lots of defensive talent and a great ownership situation, now you just have to fix the damage Chip did to the offensive side of the ball.
9. San Francisco - I can't imagine any credible HC wanting to work for the Jed and Baalke
10. Cleveland - Doesn't require comment, the factory of sadness keeps churning out product.


Finally,

I am fascinated by what might/will happen in New Orleans. Payton probably wants out, it is a bit of a miracle that two guys like him and Mickey Loomis lasted this long together under the cloud of craziness that is the Bensons in New Orleans. Payton has two years left on his deal, and the Saints would be able to get solid compensation from Dallas / NYG / Philly / Miami for him if they put his name out there. I think trading Payton and Brees and bottoming out is the exactly right play for the Saints this year. I don't know if they can get Gruden level compensation for Payton, but it would be close.
 
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Is Mangini going to get another shot anywhere? I thought he was fine with the Jets and I liked how the Browns played for him. He needs a real gm though. Wonder if he is in play for the Miami job.
 

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Respecting the Titans situation, a few reasons I think Mularkey has close to zero chance of securing the job long-term:

1. GM Ruston Webster has an expiring contact and a dismal record in his 4-year tenure. I expect he's gone, and a new GM will want a clean slate to hire his own coach (similar line of thinking inflates my expectation that Caldwell will be gone)

2. Mularkey hasn't been widely connected to other HC openings since he was fired by Jacksonville after one season. Anecdotally, that tells me something about his stock within league circles; his 18-37 record as a HC is perhaps the result of difficult circumstances, but also suggests he wouldn't be a popular pick with fans

3. This is arguably the most appealing job available, with a potential #1 pick and a young, talented QB already in place. I think there will be broad interest, with some of the more reluctant candidates often bantered about (i.e., Gruden, Stanford's David Shaw) potentially intrigued by the prospect.

If there is a dark horse among the three interim HCs, my hunch would actually be Shurmur over either Mularkey or Capmbell. Shurmur spent 10 years as a positional coach in Philly before returning as OC in 2013. There is a familiarity with Lurie and presumptive personnel czar Howie Roseman, the latter of whom is liable to put off higher profile candidates.
 

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Is Mangini going to get another shot anywhere? I thought he was fine with the Jets and I liked how the Browns played for him. He needs a real gm though. Wonder if he is in play for the Miami job.
I think Oakland is the only real head coaching interview he got last year. He interviewed for the Washington DC job and got the SF DC job, moving up inside the staff when Tomsula was hired. I don't know if he would have had a job in SF if Gase had been hired, bumping Tomsula down to DC.

On another note, MMQB mentioned Seattle OL coach and former Raiders HC Tom Cable as a potential hiring. I think he has as good of a chance of succeeding as a HC as any of the other candidates, and can certainly motivate and organize professional athletes and a staff. I didn't mention him because I think the list of teams that could get away with hiring a guy with his domestic violence and generally violent history in 2015 is very small.
 

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Who are the top candidates for new jobs?

a quick list off the top of my head:


- Hue Jackson, Cincy OC - Raiders HC in 2011. Lots to like in terms of his playcalling. Lots not to like in terms of leadership and organization

- Adam Gase, Chicago OC - Would be the Niners HC if he had agreed to take on Tomsula as DC/AHC last year. Has made Jay Cutler palatable and has 4+ years learning from John Fox.

-Josh McDaniels, NE OC - Failed badly in Denver, where he had way too much power as a first time HC, obviously a great game planner and play caller

Teryl Austin Det DC - should have been hired last year, has done great things in Detroit even as the talent level has decreased

Doug Marrone Jax DC- His decision to get away from Buffalo, and the job he did there in 2014, looks better after a year of Rex's work in Orchard Park

Sean McDermott, Car DC - Had built a consistently good defense that seems specifically designed to work well against modern NFL offenses. You could also see OC Shula getting a job as well.

Wade Phillips, Den DC - Bum's son has done a great job in Denver and probably deserves a third chance as a HC, though I wonder if he has too much of the Norv Turner "great coordinator, lousy HC" stink on him.

I'd be surprised if Patricia didn't get a few interviews with teams looking to make defense a priority.
 

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Who are the top candidates for new jobs?

a quick list off the top of my head:


- Hue Jackson, Cincy OC - Raiders HC in 2011. Lots to like in terms of his playcalling. Lots not to like in terms of leadership and organization

- Adam Gase, Chicago OC - Would be the Niners HC if he had agreed to take on Tomsula as DC/AHC last year. Has made Jay Cutler palatable and has 4+ years learning from John Fox.

-Josh McDaniels, NE OC - Failed badly in Denver, where he had way too much power as a first time HC, obviously a great game planner and play caller

Teryl Austin Det DC - should have been hired last year, has done great things in Detroit even as the talent level has decreased

Doug Marrone Jax DC- His decision to get away from Buffalo, and the job he did there in 2014, looks better after a year of Rex's work in Orchard Park

Sean McDermott, Car DC - Had built a consistently good defense that seems specifically designed to work well against modern NFL offenses. You could also see OC Shula getting a job as well.

Wade Phillips, Den DC - Bum's son has done a great job in Denver and probably deserves a third chance as a HC, though I wonder if he has too much of the Norv Turner "great coordinator, lousy HC" stink on him.


MMQB did this list as well:

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2015/12/30/nfl-head-coach-candidates-list-black-monday

What are the best jobs, at least of the 25% and above rankings in the excellent OP?

1. Indy - you have Andrew Luck, which makes dealing with Irsay worth it.
2. Giants - You have a multiple SuperBowl winning QB, the best young skill position player in the league and a quality owner & GM to work for
3. St Louis- the best overall roster, probably a QB away from a multiple year playoff run
4. San Diego - You have Phillip Rivers, who is worth several wins a year by himself, and some other pieces like Kennan Allen and Jason Verrett, though you are stuck with the underwhelming GM Tom Tolesco
5. Tennessee - Mariotta and another top 2 pick to build with, probably deserves to be higher on this list
6. New Orleans- you are walking into a rebuilding situation, so they will have to give you time, and Loomis is a good GM
7. Miami - A top heavy roster with very limited flexibility going forward, trapped under Ireland and Ross. If you can maintain great injury luck, and somehow develop Ryan Tannehill to take the next step, this team could win
8. Philly - Lots of defensive talent and a great ownership situation, now you just have to fix the damage Chip did to the offensive side of the ball.
9. San Francisco - I can't imagine any credible HC wanting to work for the Jed and Baalke
10. Cleveland - Doesn't require comment, the factory of sadness keeps churning out product.


Finally,

I am fascinated by what might/will happen in New Orleans. Payton probably wants out, it is a bit of a miracle that two guys like him and Mickey Loomis lasted this long together under the cloud of craziness that is the Bensons in New Orleans. Payton has two years left on his deal, and the Saints would be able to get solid compensation from Dallas / NYG / Philly / Miami for him if they put his name out there. I think trading Payton and Brees and bottoming out is the exactly right play for the Saints this year. I don't know if they can get Gruden level compensation for Payton, but it would be close.
If the LA Chargers let their new coach have some say in the GM situation (as KC did with Andy Reid), then I think that job becomes a close second to Indy.

Sean Payton is everyone's first choice. I wouldn't be surprised if a few teams move slowly to fill their vacancies so they can gauge the market -- with Payton and NO brass needing to agree on any move, it won't happen overnight.

Agree 100% on Marrone. He also got paid HC money this year -- kudos to his agent for negotiating that parachute clause.

Is anyone poised to make the jump from college to the pros? Gus Malzahn is the name I've heard most often in the past (assuming you think Saban and Harbaugh are staying put, which I do), but I'm not sure if Auburn's struggles have dimmed his star.
 

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If the LA Chargers let their new coach have some say in the GM situation (as KC did with Andy Reid), then I think that job becomes a close second to Indy.
I agree with this line of thinking, I think Rivers is the veteran QB that a good coach would want to be aligned with, but the Chargers already hitched their wagon to Tolesco in August as this LaCanfora article spells out:

At a time when many are considering the future of the Chargers brass, sources said that general manager Tom Telesco has already received a previously unannounced contract extension and will be a part of the team moving forward.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/25403058/chargers-extended-gm-tom-telesco-prior-to-start-of-2015-season
 

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Hue Jackson, Cincy OC - Raiders HC in 2011. Lots to like in terms of his playcalling. Lots not to like in terms of leadership and organization.
I'm curious what's not to like regarding his leadership. I know the Raiders had a billion penalties the year he was there, but it seems he's drawn pretty rave reviews everywhere he's been (especially in Cincinnati) for his ability to motivate. As for his organization, are you referring to his actions as GM after Al died? I don't think he's going to have personnel control wherever he's hired.
 

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The one note on Cleveland is that with Ray Farmer a question mark to return as GM, they could perhaps offer someone final say, which I don't think any other team is likely to do

I wouldn't move the job higher on the list because of that fact, but there are probably a couple candidates who weigh that highly.
 

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I always thought that the upside of a job like Cleveland is that if you could turn that mess around and win, you'd be a football immortal. Tomlin has to win the SB every so often to just keep up with expectations; if a coach ever won it with the Browns, they'd name Lake Erie after him.
 

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Only Cleveland would hire a lawyer to run football operations. Maybe they are thinking about keeping Johnny and defending him in court.
 

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PFT suggests, without attribution, that maybe Colonel Tom Coughlin won't go gently into the good night, and might even end up elsewhere.
 

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So Jed & Co. let Tomsula, their hand chosen guy, give his post game press conference, where he answered many questions about his future, and then fired him two hours later. Neat.
 

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So Jed & Co. let Tomsula, their hand chosen guy, give his post game press conference, where he answered many questions about his future, and then fired him two hours later. Neat.

SF will have a hard time filling the coaching spot unless the owners are prepared to give some power to the new coach (which we know won't happen)
 

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Miami could do a lot worse than a pissed-off Coughlin for 3 years or so while they wait for Harbaugh to finish up in Michigan. It'd be a nice transition to his eventual retirement home in sunny FL.

Would the Giants gig tempt Josh McDaniels?
 

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Despite the proclamations that Garrett is safe, IF Sean Payton becomes available I think Jerrah will offer him the most he's offered to anybody since Bill Parcells to come to Dallas. It's well established that he's Jerrah's white whale that got away from him in the Parcells Era. There's some background available here from a couple years ago why it makes sense.
 

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SF will have a hard time filling the coaching spot unless the owners are prepared to give some power to the new coach (which we know won't happen)
I don't think they'll have any problem finding someone that wants to coach an NFL team.
 

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Miami could do a lot worse than a pissed-off Coughlin for 3 years or so while they wait for Harbaugh to finish up in Michigan. It'd be a nice transition to his eventual retirement home in sunny FL.

Would the Giants gig tempt Josh McDaniels?
The giants would be a job BB gave Josh his blessing for. Stable organization with a QB in place.
 

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Despite the proclamations that Garrett is safe, IF Sean Payton becomes available I think Jerrah will offer him the most he's offered to anybody since Bill Parcells to come to Dallas. It's well established that he's Jerrah's white whale that got away from him in the Parcells Era. There's some background available here from a couple years ago why it makes sense.
Is he willing to throw in draft picks? Because Payton is still under contract to the Saints for at least another year.
 

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He was fired last year by the same owner. I read it as Harbaugh feels it was a very poor choice to fire him. I also read it as he feels his replacement was a very poor hire and that poor hire led to a very poor 4-12 season.
 

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He was fired last year by the same owner. I read it as Harbaugh feels it was a very poor choice to fire him. I also read it as he feels his replacement was a very poor hire and that poor hire led to a very poor 4-12 season.
I think its towards Tomsula

from early in 2015
If the new San Francisco 49ers coach took offense to the previous Niners coach taking what many perceived as a shot at him last week, Jim Tomsula was not saying.

At least not publicly.

Tomsula, speaking to Bay Area reporters off to the side of the main podium Thursday at the NFL combine in Indianapolis, would not take the bait when asked about the growing notion that he campaigned for the gig behind Jim Harbaugh’s back.
http://espn.go.com/blog/san-francisco-49ers/post/_/id/12314/did-jim-tomsula-campaigned-for-jim-harbaughs-job

Tomsula was asked about the perception he was campaigning for the job, which is a belief among some of the assistant coaches that lost their jobs with the 49ers this offseason, according to sources.
http://www.csnbayarea.com/49ers/tomsula-calls-suggestion-he-undermined-harbaugh-ridiculous