Maybe not huge news, but it's not nothing. King has been a core special teamer for a few years now. He's good at his job and losing him won't benefit New England, that's for sure. I think they can replace him for cheaper probably (his 2021 cap hit was $1.1m), so they could save a few bucks I guess.
Right, I didn't mean to imply that it's completely insignificant. He missed two full seasons before bouncing back and having a solid year last year.
No definitely. You brought it up for a reason, because you knew it wasn't unimportant. I appreciate you posting that, because I hadn't seen it anywhere else. Not a "nothing" loss for NE.
Could be that King, coming off 2 years of injuries, and Bolden, playing more RB than he had in years dropped of just enough.
His stats may improve, but the Raiders haven't exactly been barren at the skill positions the last few years (Waller/Renfroe/Jacobs is a really solid group, plus he's had Aghalor, Jordy Nelson, Amari Cooper and a few others). Which guys from that group I mentioned is Carr definitely (or even arguably) better than? Completely ignoring salary, would any of those teams trade their QB for Carr?
That's where I'm at; I think he's better than people give him credit for, but DAMN is that a lot of money.
He’s in the 10-12 range. It’s just the market now. And I’d absolutely take him over Jackson.
Jackson is a 25 year old former MVP with a 37-12 record as a starter. Carr is six years older and on his best day is a borderline top 10 QB. There are good reasons to keep Jackson off a list of the very best QBs in the league, but no good reason not to have him above Carr, except for maybe durability (and the six year age difference completely cancels that out).
Not saying I’m correct just an opinion, but Jackson is in possibly the most run-heavy offense of the last 25 years. In my opinion you can’t win a championship in today’s NFL with that offense. And Baltimore has collapsed the last 3-4 years so the results seem to bear that out.
You often here the argument that teams shouldn't re-sign average QBs to a big deal, but is it easier to win with Carr at 40 million or a combination of something like marcus Mariotta Blaine Gabbert and a first round pick (Desmond Ridder?) and 32 million? I'm in Carr camp even if he's not Allen/Mahomes.
Carr = Cousins for me, and this deal reflects that more or less. He’ll keep things exciting and might get you in the playoffs, but he’s unlikely to carry any team on a deep run. For most teams that’s enough to stay afloat and keep eyes on TVs and butts in seats.
Right. And since the Cousins comp came up, I dont think Cousins could win a SB if he had prime Don Hutson, Jerry Rice, Gronk, Bronco Nagurski and OJ playing offense with him.
I think if Kirk Cousins was QB of the Rams or the 49ers for the past 5 years, there's a good chance he'd have a ring.
yeah, way worse QBs have been in the SB, and some have won. Since 2012, we've had Eli Manning win, Peyton Manning's mouldering corpse won (over Cam Newton), Joe Flacco won (over Kaep), and Nick Foles won. I'd say Cousins is probably better than all of those.
I mean that's kind of the point. Foles is a much worse QB than Cousins and they each have long careers full of proof, but he had a 2 game hot streak and won the title, Flacco is similar.
Agreed I just wouldn’t group Foles with Peyton’s Bronco victory. That Bronco team won in spite of Manning’s dreadful post-season performance due to their defense getting to another level. Foles out-dueled Brady in Brady’s best SB performance statistically.
Both Flacco and Foles played at super-human, peak all time great QB levels in their Super Bowl runs. I'll argue it's foolish to count on your okay QB suddenly going Super Saiyan when the chips are down, though. I think a guy like Carr or Cousins could win a Super Bowl just by playing very well and not necessarily doing stuff they've never done before, provided they have enough help around them. Can't say that for a good number of QBs in this league.
If you want to have a little fun, look up Blake Bortles’ Wikipedia page and look at the wild 2017-18 he had. In short: dude went from stinking, to still kind of stinking while his team got better, to being amazing for like 4 games while his team played well and getting an extension, to being utterly shit and getting benched in, like, a 12-game span over two seasons.
Stuff happens. If I had to come forward every time someone murdered someone in a car I happened to also be in, I’d have no free time at all.
What doesn't he like about how he's used, I wonder. Targeted 121 times in the passing game (7.6 per game). 59 rushing attempts (~ 4 per game). They use him all over the field and have found incredibly creative ways to get him the ball. What's not to like about it, even from his perspective?
being a defacto RB for a big chunk of snaps probably... you take a lot more hits that way and it's a career shortening move likely.
My only guess is that he was overused? Because he certainly wasn't under used.
Yeah, you guys probably have it right. At first I was like, dude, they do all kinds of things to get you the ball - you're the focal point of their entire offense. It didn't occur to me that that might actually be the problem.
