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Danny_Darwin

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I will note once again that these are all people they could've hired before the season, but didn't. They even interviewed Urueta back then! What could have changed since then?

To me, this suggests that the hope and maybe expectation is the return of Cora, and these other candidates are in case he takes a different job - he is a free agent, after all. At a minimum, I think this idea that Bloom has some super-secret candidate in mind doesn’t quite scan to me.
 

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I will note once again that these are all people they could've hired before the season, but didn't. They even interviewed Urueta back then! What could have changed since then?

To me, this suggests that the hope and maybe expectation is the return of Cora, and these other candidates are in case he takes a different job - he is a free agent, after all. At a minimum, I think this idea that Bloom has some super-secret candidate in mind doesn’t quite scan to me.
Mostly agreed. My primary concern in regards to Cora is that he might not want to take the job right now with the team not looking to be very competitive next year.

If all these interviews on the heels of Roenicke’s caretaker term are merely a ruse before handing back the keys to Cora - I’m disappointed we didn’t interview Mo Vaughn and John Lackey. Just so we can all make the lame “dog and pony show” joke I’m making right now.
 

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I will note once again that these are all people they could've hired before the season, but didn't. They even interviewed Urueta back then! What could have changed since then?

To me, this suggests that the hope and maybe expectation is the return of Cora, and these other candidates are in case he takes a different job - he is a free agent, after all. At a minimum, I think this idea that Bloom has some super-secret candidate in mind doesn’t quite scan to me.
As BMHH suggests, Matt Quatraro is a very likely target for Bloom who is not yet available for interviews while the Rays are still playing. He was a name that came up last spring but was not interviewed because Bloom wouldn't (or couldn't) "raid" his former team for staff. A season later, that's unlikely to be an issue any longer.
 

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If you're Cora (or anybody else for that matter), why is Boston a better job than the White Sox? Way better young talent base (including... wait for it... Pitching!) in Chicago, more resources to trade for a needed piece at the deadline, lesser divisional competition, less media headaches...
 

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If you're Cora (or anybody else for that matter), why is Boston a better job than the White Sox? Way better young talent base (including... wait for it... Pitching!) in Chicago, more resources to trade for a needed piece at the deadline, lesser divisional competition, less media headaches...
Has Cora been rumored to the White Sox? I thought they were more interested in Hinch if they don't make the hilarious choice of an antique La Russa.
 

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If you're Cora (or anybody else for that matter), why is Boston a better job than the White Sox? Way better young talent base (including... wait for it... Pitching!) in Chicago, more resources to trade for a needed piece at the deadline, lesser divisional competition, less media headaches...
You're also sharing the spotlight with the Cubs. Some guys like that limelight.
 

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Is the ban over now automatically? Or is there some thing that has to happen for reinstatement?
 

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I would think they’d wait a few days, interview him and maybe a couple of others, just to give the appearance of having a process.
 

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They've already done, what, 4+ interviews, right? That to me is somewhat a sign Cora isn't a lock for this.
Even assuming they want Cora, they need a backup plan in case Cora doesn't want to return to the Red Sox.
 

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MLB news should rightfully focus on the WS Champion Dodgers for a few days. As an aside, I can't believe Justin Turner sat next to Dave Roberts for a team pic sans mask knowing he tested positive earlier that day. If Roberts or anyone else on the Dodgers gets COVID, this story will really blow up.
 

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MLB news should rightfully focus on the WS Champion Dodgers for a few days. As an aside, I can't believe Justin Turner sat next to Dave Roberts for a team pic sans mask knowing he tested positive earlier that day. If Roberts or anyone else on the Dodgers gets COVID, this story will really blow up.
This story should blow up regardless of whether anyone else in the park last night gets COVID. They were supposed to be quarantined in a "bubble" to prevent infections. That was the whole point of doing the neutral site stuff...minimize travel and limit outside contact for the players so teams wouldn't lose players. MLB was proudly touting their zero positive tests since the playoffs began. So the big question right now isn't "will other Dodgers (or Rays or media) contract COVID from Turner?" it's "how did he contract it in the first place?" What protocols did he break prior to last night? Why, when he had an inconclusive test on Monday that prompted the re-test, did the Dodgers proceed as if he was cleared instead of isolating him and, you know, not putting him in the lineup for Game 6?
 

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They've already done, what, 4+ interviews, right? That to me is somewhat a sign Cora isn't a lock for this.
Even if they plan on hiring Cora, and it’s essentially a done deal, how often does a team interview one candidate and then hire them?

Not sure the politics in regards to MLB hiring, but I would think teams would at least want the optics of the opportunity being accessible to anyone who may be interested.

Granted, they only interviewed Chaim Bloom for his position, but “considered” multiple internal candidates. Different situations, however, since you can’t really seriously “consider” external candidates without an interview.
 

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Even if they plan on hiring Cora, and it’s essentially a done deal, how often does a team interview one candidate and then hire them?

Not sure the politics in regards to MLB hiring, but I would think teams would at least want the optics of the opportunity being accessible to anyone who may be interested.

Granted, they only interviewed Chaim Bloom for his position, but “considered” multiple internal candidates. Different situations, however, since you can’t really seriously “consider” external candidates without an interview.
The interviewees get their names “out there” as potential managerial candidates also, so they’re benefitting too, even if it is a charade, as that can lead to them getting interviewed by other teams in the future (or present)
 

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It is my understanding that Cora was not supposed to talk to anyone prior to the end of the WS. It just ended. If the Sox were to hire him too soon, it would really seem that they had, in fact, been talking prior to the conclusion of the WS. After what Cora has just been through with the Houston debacle and his suspension, he cannot afford to even have a hint of impropriety. They may have made a decision, but will drag their heels for a bit so it looks like there has been an appropriate interval.
 

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Detroit hiring AJ Hinch would potentially give the Red Sox some cover to let the media focus on that story first and rehash everything, and then have the Sox announce Cora as manager right as it dies down and there is not as much national appetite to hear it all again.

At least, that is what I am going with because I am at the point of wanting him back officially.
 

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Detroit hiring AJ Hinch would potentially give the Red Sox some cover to let the media focus on that story first and rehash everything, and then have the Sox announce Cora as manager right as it dies down and there is not as much national appetite to hear it all again.

At least, that is what I am going with because I am at the point of wanting him back officially.
I agree with this, I say Sunday evening Cora is announced, it will be a football Sunday and the election will be 40 hours away.
 

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Speier's update: https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/10/30/sports/red-sox-alex-cora-manager-candidates/?event=event25

According to multiple industry sources, the Red Sox have been in contact with former manager Alex Cora multiple times since Tuesday, when his season-long suspension – the result of an MLB investigation into sign-stealing by the 2017 Astros – ended with the conclusion of the World Series.

It is unknown how Cora’s candidacy is viewed by the Red Sox. He remains extremely popular with many members of the organization at the ownership, front office, and player levels.

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Some of those candidates, according to one major league source, have been informed that they are no longer in consideration for the managerial position. Others, according to multiple major league sources, have had a second interview with the Red Sox, and the team has met with some candidates in person.

Kelly, the Pirates bench coach, and Mendoza, the Yankees bench coach, both interviewed a second time, according to major league sources.
 

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Butch Stearns in fox 25 Boston just said in the sports that he anticipates Cora to be named manager tonight according to MLB sources
 

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His last sports update he walked back what he had said 30 minutes ago but still said it’s expected that Cora will be named soon
 

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Mods, at this point would it be better to either rename the thread to something such or "Searching for someone special"? Or, maybe break out the new manager search portion into its own thread?

The original point, Roenicke leaving, is no longer the point.
 

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Sam Fuld is an interesting name. Wondering if he's being given serious consideration, or is Chaim just doing one of his former players a solid to legitmize him as a candidate for other teams. I'd like to see him brought into the organization if he doesn't get the top job (and he's a New England guy too).
 

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Which somehow impacts a managerial hiring in MLB? Or further the announcement of one? Jesus fuck we have become so entitled around here.
Because the implication was that, since rehiring Cora might be controversial, they might want to do it when news + public attention is elsewhere? Seems pretty straightforward, although I doubt this is actually factoring into the Sox decision making process.
 

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Because the implication was that, since rehiring Cora might be controversial, they might want to do it when news + public attention is elsewhere? Seems pretty straightforward, although I doubt this is actually factoring into the Sox decision making process.
I understand the implication, thanks, but your follow up is my point. I highly doubt the Sox are waiting for the election - which results won't be announced or even remotely predictable until well after hours - to distract from them announcing they are bringing back Cora. It's ludicrous.
 

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Which somehow impacts a managerial hiring in MLB? Or further the announcement of one? Jesus fuck we have become so entitled around here.

I understand the implication, thanks, but your follow up is my point. I highly doubt the Sox are waiting for the election - which results won't be announced or even remotely predictable until well after hours - to distract from them announcing they are bringing back Cora. It's ludicrous.
One person said maybe.