RealFantasy Draft - DRAFTING NOW, CLOCK STARTS MONDAY
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Given how the first two picks broke, it is a little unfortunate we can't swap picks, because we'd definitely be fielding offers. That said, definitely some impact talent on the board, just a matter of prioritization.
Scoops Bolling said:
Then again, if we could swap picks #1 (and assumingly Clowney) would have went to the highest bidder.
We've already discused revisiting the trade issue after the draft. I'm 99% sure that there will be support for making trades legal.
We have a lot of precedent for not making huge rule changes without discussion, debate, and voting and I think that's a good thing. If you guys wanted to trade during the draft, you should have pushed for or organized a big discussion about rule changes in the months leading up to the draft.
I'm tired of running this thing and happy to let somebody take over after this draft. What pisses me off the most are people who don't want to do shit themselves but then want to bitch about the rules, which is basically half of the league at this point.
We have a lot of precedent for not making huge rule changes without discussion, debate, and voting and I think that's a good thing. If you guys wanted to trade during the draft, you should have pushed for or organized a big discussion about rule changes in the months leading up to the draft.
I'm tired of running this thing and happy to let somebody take over after this draft. What pisses me off the most are people who don't want to do shit themselves but then want to bitch about the rules, which is basically half of the league at this point.
MMS, let me apologize for whining. Over the last year I've taken things out going on in my personal life here. I acted immaturely and out of frustration. Going forward I will have a 24 hour cool off period before I come up with a complaint or a rule change. Again, I am so sorry.
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People like to bitch. Hell I even did it at the end of the stealing rounds. I'll only speak for myself but my bitching was less for me and more for the league as a whole. This whole RFP process is brand spanking new and we're all just kind of winging it as we go. So as each problem arises, what might be seen as bitching IMO actually leads to a good discussion (most of the time) on what we should do moving forward. Everyone here wants the league to be as fun as possible, as fair as possible, but we're taking it day by day and piece by piece.
You're doing a hell of a job MMS so don't take any bitching personally. You're our watchful protector, our Dark Knight.
You're doing a hell of a job MMS so don't take any bitching personally. You're our watchful protector, our Dark Knight.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Hey, you're doing a hell of a job keeping this thing together. Don't let a few whiney idiots ruin it. Everyone knows that rule changes don't happen overnight and need to follow the process you listed. I'd love to add trading to this, but I'm 100% fine with it not being an option right now and I think everyone understands why it isn't going to be implemented now.
I don't think everyone is bitching so much as just pointing out how beneficial trading would be during this offseason process. It's nothing against you or the rules or anything like that, at least not from me. It's just something that could add another dynamic to the process and also give teams a way to get a player they might not otherwise be able to get depending on where they're drafting.
Keep fighting the good fight, my man. We can't keep this fake real life league together without you!
Sorry, MMS. I know I said more than my share about how things are going but it wasn't a slight against you or anyone who has been a major help in keeping this thing organized and progressing. I'm trying to be more relaxed and less aggressive. I think you've been the lynchpin keeping this thing together.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Shit, I'm sorry MMS and it's a big loss if you do. Hopefully you'll reconsider -- I've really enjoyed the draft and you've been the captain who has led the ship.
A huge THANK YOU for all the work you've put in.
The 'Necks will take Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
Robinson brings a unique combination of tools and film at a very young age. He'll help the passing and running game, and solidify the offensive line. He's a 21 YO Trent Williams, and he fucking mauls people.
Robinson brings a unique combination of tools and film at a very young age. He'll help the passing and running game, and solidify the offensive line. He's a 21 YO Trent Williams, and he fucking mauls people.
Tough shit. Youre here to stay.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
You're supposed to hate your job and get sick of all the bitching. Just ask Goodell.
Its why you get paid the big bucks.
Not a bad consolation price after missing out on Mack and Clowney, if by consolation I mean a potential HoF LT and not a Robert Gallery clone.phragle said:
Tough pick for me here because the guy I need the most is not one of the top couple of players currently on the board. The guys that I feel have the most value on the board doesnt fill my biggest hole currently.
With the 4th pick the G'men will take Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45O_bC8SKtE
With the 4th pick the G'men will take Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsburgh
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45O_bC8SKtE
JerBear said:
I was going to offer to do the same thing so that everyone can see their rosters after the stealing rounds. If help is needed let me know.
Teams sheet should be up to date now. I consolidated items down so please check and send me any updates you have for positions and I will update accordingly. If you had an open OLine spot and someone who fit I put them there but you may have expected someone and something else. We can also just wait until after the draft to do that.Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Still didn't touch the players sheet as I think that's fine up through the new players drafted.
For those with editing powers, the old teams sheet is still there, I created a copy before I started updating in case I screwed something up terribly bad. I just hid the sheet. I also resorted the teams page by current draft order rather than original draft order and hid the column with original draft numbering.
With the 5th pick in the RealFantasy NFL Draft, the New York Jets select WR Sammy Watkins. Watkins brings an immediate upgrade to our WR corps. A top 3 of Watkins, Colston, and Kerley sets me up well.
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
It looks like JerBear took care of everything but if you want editing powers so that you can help add drafted players, shoot me a PM with your email ESC.
Well - I, for one, was starting to get pretty nervous. As each of the first picks started rolling in without anyone jumping on a signal-caller, I wondered if anyone from my short-list would be left by the sixth pick. Sure, I never really had that much hope of landing Clowney or Mack; but I was (apparently incorrectly) counting on at least 1 QB to be drafted in the first 5 picks, and so we had really only looked seriously at 2 or 3 guys for our pick here, and our stealing round selections were predicated on landing one of them. Watching Robinson and Mack go in the top three selections had us very nervous.
That being said, while this guy is the last name on my short-list - he's in no way a consolation prize. The Vikings are extremely happy to draft Jake Matthews, OT and immediately provide some much needed boost to our offensive line.
While he may not have the ridiculous upside of freakish athleticism that fellow prospect Greg Robinson has, Matthews was considered by some to be the "safer" pick. He's the technician counterpart to Robinson's raw potential. Scouts praised his awareness, attitude, and fire, and his game was considered far more well-rounded than other offensive line prospects, and it's anticipated that he could play any position across the line. Then there's the pedigree. The son of a HOF, nephew of a Pro-Bowler, cousin to two NFL players - Matthews is practically the poster boy for what teams are looking for in a reliable anchor for your offensive line for years to come. The Atlanta Falcons jumped on him at #6 overall after reportedly attempting to try and trade into the #3 slot so they could ensure they got him. Atlanta will presumably play Matthews at RT for the time being opposite standout LT Sam Baker, but the Vikings will look to pencil him in as our starting LT from day one.
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That being said, while this guy is the last name on my short-list - he's in no way a consolation prize. The Vikings are extremely happy to draft Jake Matthews, OT and immediately provide some much needed boost to our offensive line.
While he may not have the ridiculous upside of freakish athleticism that fellow prospect Greg Robinson has, Matthews was considered by some to be the "safer" pick. He's the technician counterpart to Robinson's raw potential. Scouts praised his awareness, attitude, and fire, and his game was considered far more well-rounded than other offensive line prospects, and it's anticipated that he could play any position across the line. Then there's the pedigree. The son of a HOF, nephew of a Pro-Bowler, cousin to two NFL players - Matthews is practically the poster boy for what teams are looking for in a reliable anchor for your offensive line for years to come. The Atlanta Falcons jumped on him at #6 overall after reportedly attempting to try and trade into the #3 slot so they could ensure they got him. Atlanta will presumably play Matthews at RT for the time being opposite standout LT Sam Baker, but the Vikings will look to pencil him in as our starting LT from day one.
Edit: Baka PM'd
The Matthews clan is ridiculous. Supposedly there is a baby brother that is 15 and already clocks in at 6'3 285.
With the 7th overall pick the KCC will suprise no one everyone by taking .....
Mike Evans, WR TA&M
While we need talent all over the board we felt that Mikes ability to be a primary receiver will help any QB we put on the field and thus give punch to our troubled offense. We also felt that the Talent Drop off at WR was too severe to pass on Mike at this time.
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Mike Evans, WR TA&M
While we need talent all over the board we felt that Mikes ability to be a primary receiver will help any QB we put on the field and thus give punch to our troubled offense. We also felt that the Talent Drop off at WR was too severe to pass on Mike at this time.
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Yeah - wasn't expecting the Tactlenecks to move on Robinson w/ Sam Baker & Lane Johnson on their squad, so I was really worried you would scoop him up and I'd be forced to scramble to determine how the other O-line prospects stacked up against the best players available at that point.wibi said:
bakahump said:
Great pick. He's actually younger than Watkins and has only been playing football for four years. I think there's a pretty high percentage he's a star. I charted some of the top WRs YPT in relation to their respective QB's YPA, and Mike Evans came in first with a staggering difference of 4.7 yards. No one was close. That means a lot of Manziel's success can be directly attributed to Evans.
sleepyjose03 said:
If you like Sam Baker that much we might be willing to trade him to you later.
I did not study it as much as i could have. I figured Watkins was probably a better player....however I did think that Evans could be near the Andre Johnson Prime/Megatron level (while watkins would be that level).
Having a player even a step below that level will help an admittedly mediocre (now) QB situation, while also giving a future young QB a weapon.
Sometimes its pretty helpful to be able to take BPA.
Having a player even a step below that level will help an admittedly mediocre (now) QB situation, while also giving a future young QB a weapon.
Sometimes its pretty helpful to be able to take BPA.
Haha, no thanks. I wasn't shitting on your choice (in fact I really liked it) - just that I had guessed wrong how you'd draft at that spot. Of course I had been assuming that you would have had one of Mack/Clowney to potentially choose from, and/or might have gambled on somebody like Watkins to pair with Harvin. Mostly it made me nervous since I had expected one of Robinson/Matthews to be selected by the time it got to me, but had sort of taken it for granted that one of them (and/or a clear next best available guy) would have still been there by #6.phragle said:
I was really hoping Evans would slide past Baka, as he would have been my pick. I need help at a ton of positions on the board, WR being one of the bigger needs. I also think there is a pretty big drop off from Evans to the next guy, whoever that is. Having lost both a WR and an RB in the stealing portion of the draft, I need to focus on the skill positions, and so I will take Eric Ebron, TE, UNC Height: 6-4. Weight: 250.
40 Time: 4.60
From WalterFootball.com:
For the NFL, Ebron looks like a real mismatch weapon. He is too fast for linebackers and many safeties, yet is also too big for defensive backs. Ebron can make acrobatic catches in the deep middle of the field and has the speed to kill defenses down the middle seam. He is a versatile athlete who can line up in a variety of places. As a pro, Ebron can be used as a typical tight end, an h-back or even as a slot receiver. He looks like a potential high-impact receiving tight end in the NFL.
Probably a bit of a reach here, but he is the highest rated skill position player remaining on the board. It sucks that we had to burn a pick to replace Aaron Hernandez, who should have been filling this role for the next 4 years, but it is what it is.
Dylanmarsh PM'ed.
40 Time: 4.60
From WalterFootball.com:
For the NFL, Ebron looks like a real mismatch weapon. He is too fast for linebackers and many safeties, yet is also too big for defensive backs. Ebron can make acrobatic catches in the deep middle of the field and has the speed to kill defenses down the middle seam. He is a versatile athlete who can line up in a variety of places. As a pro, Ebron can be used as a typical tight end, an h-back or even as a slot receiver. He looks like a potential high-impact receiving tight end in the NFL.
Probably a bit of a reach here, but he is the highest rated skill position player remaining on the board. It sucks that we had to burn a pick to replace Aaron Hernandez, who should have been filling this role for the next 4 years, but it is what it is.
Dylanmarsh PM'ed.
Christ. I was hoping to land Ebron, Evans or Matthews. If it were an option, I would trade out of this spot. But, since it's not, I will continue to remake my secondary and take:
Justin Gilbert, CB, OSU
He's the best corner in this year's draft and will also handle kickoff/punt returns in our fake world.
MarcSullivaFan will be PM'd.
Justin Gilbert, CB, OSU
He's the best corner in this year's draft and will also handle kickoff/punt returns in our fake world.
MarcSullivaFan will be PM'd.
I wonder how long it's going to take for someone to draft a non-rookie? I don't have a huge list of guys but I do have some interesting names. Not that I'd take them over any of the guys chosen so far, I'm just curious how long it will take someone to pull the trigger on someone we missed last year. I'll be interested to see how teams value current value vs future production. There are some good player we didn't draft.
Also, I love the Aaron Donald and Sammy Watkins picks. Those guys are going to be studs.
Also, I love the Aaron Donald and Sammy Watkins picks. Those guys are going to be studs.
HOST: Welcome back to the RFP draft. We've seen ten picks come off the board so far. Your thoughts?
ANALYST #1: So, I think the teams without QBs who've already picked have fornicated themselves and given hope to the quarterbackless from here on out.
Laddie could (and probably should) get his choice of Dalton insurance. Myt1 might get his pick of this class, with Schaub around as one-year insurance. SPDougie will get a good prospect. ElCab, who so worried about it pre-draft, will get a shot at the top prospects. Heck, even Ace & Gary are probably going to get a decent selection.
You know who's not getting a decent gamble pick at QB? Was(Not)Wasdin. It doesn't matter what pass catching options you have when Brandon Weeden is the guy throwing the ball. Big mistake to pass on the pick of the QB market for a TE, even one as talented as Ebron.
ANALYST #2: I disagree - none of these QBs is worthy of a top ten pick. Ebron is a potential all-pro if he develops a bit and given Was(Not)Wasdin's bare depth chart, he had no choice but to take the best pass catcher available. He was in worse shape than the NFL's Carolina Panthers.
What's most interesting to me is the way the RFP picks have, more or less, mirrored those of the NFL. With the notable exception of Aaron Donald, everyone went generally where they went in the NFL portion. Will that trend continue?
HOST: Find out, when we get some more picks. That's all for now, folks.
ANALYST #1: So, I think the teams without QBs who've already picked have fornicated themselves and given hope to the quarterbackless from here on out.
Laddie could (and probably should) get his choice of Dalton insurance. Myt1 might get his pick of this class, with Schaub around as one-year insurance. SPDougie will get a good prospect. ElCab, who so worried about it pre-draft, will get a shot at the top prospects. Heck, even Ace & Gary are probably going to get a decent selection.
You know who's not getting a decent gamble pick at QB? Was(Not)Wasdin. It doesn't matter what pass catching options you have when Brandon Weeden is the guy throwing the ball. Big mistake to pass on the pick of the QB market for a TE, even one as talented as Ebron.
ANALYST #2: I disagree - none of these QBs is worthy of a top ten pick. Ebron is a potential all-pro if he develops a bit and given Was(Not)Wasdin's bare depth chart, he had no choice but to take the best pass catcher available. He was in worse shape than the NFL's Carolina Panthers.
What's most interesting to me is the way the RFP picks have, more or less, mirrored those of the NFL. With the notable exception of Aaron Donald, everyone went generally where they went in the NFL portion. Will that trend continue?
HOST: Find out, when we get some more picks. That's all for now, folks.
We don't comment on players who aren't on our roster, but I'll say this: QB is important, but when you have no one who can catch the ball, you're in a world of trouble.
