SMU_Sox said:
I know it's a gamble. I don't think I said anything to the contrary.
I got pissed when he "thanked" me for taking one of the best players on his defense. It was an unnecessary thing to do and I called him out on it. That's it.
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I know it's a gamble. I don't think I said anything to the contrary.
I got pissed when he "thanked" me for taking one of the best players on his defense. It was an unnecessary thing to do and I called him out on it. That's it.
Anyway.
This is the sweet spot of this exercise. One player can still be selected from my roster, and there isn't much out there. Do I shore up a position in case a player of mine at that position is stolen after I draft? Do I address a glaring weakness? Do I just get the best player available?
Do I manage to do all three?
The Sentinels select Frank Gore, RB
He's 30, which is old for a RB, but he's got a few more seasons in him. Having addressed our interior OL with our first selection, we think Gore can still put up solid numbers for us and we now have a very formidable two-headed backfield with Gore and Bell.
That is the second player from JerBear's Texans and should close them off.
PM on its way.
This is the sweet spot of this exercise. One player can still be selected from my roster, and there isn't much out there. Do I shore up a position in case a player of mine at that position is stolen after I draft? Do I address a glaring weakness? Do I just get the best player available?
Do I manage to do all three?
The Sentinels select Frank Gore, RB
He's 30, which is old for a RB, but he's got a few more seasons in him. Having addressed our interior OL with our first selection, we think Gore can still put up solid numbers for us and we now have a very formidable two-headed backfield with Gore and Bell.
That is the second player from JerBear's Texans and should close them off.
PM on its way.
The Bears select DE Adrian Clayborn, taking him from our divisional rival Packers.
Wanted to shore up my other DE position ASAP, and Clayborn, only 25, has some ability. I feel alright with him playing across from Chandler Jones and flanking Knighton and Hill.
Wanted to shore up my other DE position ASAP, and Clayborn, only 25, has some ability. I feel alright with him playing across from Chandler Jones and flanking Knighton and Hill.
I'm actually with ESC on this one. I don't think the 13.5 sack Woodley of 2009 is coming back, but he's still a pretty high-floor player with some upside, and that's tough to find among edge rushers. And since both you and Eck are picking in the 20's, neither of you can expect a rookie to come in and be an improvement. You probably made the right decision to leave him exposed given your choices, but you just lost probably your second-best pass rusher (and Eck gained a guy who figures to be his second-best pass rusher). He might have been a disappointment, but I don't think you're going to have an easy time replacing him.soxfan121 said:
EDIT: 49ers have lost two with the Arrington pick; SS updated
The Austin Browns choose to steal a guy whom we looked long and hard at last year. He's coming off a bad year. There's no sugar coating that. 52 receptions for 597 yards and a thoroughly mediocre (especially for him) 11.5 ypr. But there's a reason for that. He came into the season out of shape as he didn't work out in the off season. He had injuries all year on his muscle groups. We're hearing now that he is in the best shape of his life. Apparently he dedicated this off season to improving into phenomenal shape. He's primarily a slot receiver but we think he's skilled and versatile enough to play everywhere.
I'm sure you can guess... Our pick is Steve Johnson, WR.
We have 4 receivers now with question marks. Our one tight end was out all of last year (his rookie season) and our other tight end doesn't get enough playing time and is mostly a slot receiver. Luckily for us for three of our receivers have high ceilings: Johnson, Kelce (our tight end) and Blackmon. If two of the three pan out we're ok. We might not be elite but we'd be good.
Aldrick Robinson: in real life he figures to be way down the Redskins depth chart. Hopefully though for us he still counts as decent depth.
Greg Jennings: he rebounded from 2012 but he wasn't 100% and was banged up most of the year. He also had no one to throw him the ball. He's going to be 30 and he's somewhat injury prone. We would like a steady WR2 production from him.
Justin Blackmon: If he plays he could be a star. We don't need a recap here.
I'm sure you can guess... Our pick is Steve Johnson, WR.
We have 4 receivers now with question marks. Our one tight end was out all of last year (his rookie season) and our other tight end doesn't get enough playing time and is mostly a slot receiver. Luckily for us for three of our receivers have high ceilings: Johnson, Kelce (our tight end) and Blackmon. If two of the three pan out we're ok. We might not be elite but we'd be good.
Aldrick Robinson: in real life he figures to be way down the Redskins depth chart. Hopefully though for us he still counts as decent depth.
Greg Jennings: he rebounded from 2012 but he wasn't 100% and was banged up most of the year. He also had no one to throw him the ball. He's going to be 30 and he's somewhat injury prone. We would like a steady WR2 production from him.
Justin Blackmon: If he plays he could be a star. We don't need a recap here.
The Rams select S Duron Harmon.
Safety, like LB, was a big area of concern for the Rams last year. Hopefully Harmon can assist in anchoring it. I actually don't know how much burn Harmon will really get next year given that he has overlapping skills with McCourty as a center field safety for the RL Pats, but I liked what I saw from him enough last year to want to invest this pick in him. I was looking at a few other options here as well but most other guys left out there are either bigger unknowns than McCourty (and who I have less experience watching because I don't see every game), or are mediocre enough that I'd want to upgrade in the upcoming draft anyway. Much like the RL Patriots, I'm OK going into the season with Harmon as a starter.
EDIT - PM sent to tito.
Safety, like LB, was a big area of concern for the Rams last year. Hopefully Harmon can assist in anchoring it. I actually don't know how much burn Harmon will really get next year given that he has overlapping skills with McCourty as a center field safety for the RL Pats, but I liked what I saw from him enough last year to want to invest this pick in him. I was looking at a few other options here as well but most other guys left out there are either bigger unknowns than McCourty (and who I have less experience watching because I don't see every game), or are mediocre enough that I'd want to upgrade in the upcoming draft anyway. Much like the RL Patriots, I'm OK going into the season with Harmon as a starter.
EDIT - PM sent to tito.
Titoschew said:
Clarification. Does he need to identify which team the pick comes from? That was my understanding.
Either would be the Jets in this case, so it's a moot point.soxfan121 said:
EDIT: I've marked the Jets off-limits in the spreadsheet and noted the switch in "sheet1."
Like the pick above, I lost a member of my secondary and I think I can fill that spot better now compared to the 8th round of the draft.
The Broncos steal...
Marcus Gilchrist, CB, from bsj's Falcons
I'll go with a guy who started out as a cornerback as a 2nd round pick in 2011, had some issues with coverage, then moved to safety and had a much better year in 2013 (playing 98.3% of San Diego's defensive snaps). He can fill in as a nickel CB, some think his best fit is as a FS, and he played much of last season at SS, so there's a lot of positional flexibility at play, which will fit in nicely with Patrick Peterson and Morgan Burnett in my defensive backfield.
It will be interesting to see who's available once we get to the 8th round, but I'm perfectly happy going into next season with Gilchrist as a starter.
The Broncos steal...
Marcus Gilchrist, CB, from bsj's Falcons
I'll go with a guy who started out as a cornerback as a 2nd round pick in 2011, had some issues with coverage, then moved to safety and had a much better year in 2013 (playing 98.3% of San Diego's defensive snaps). He can fill in as a nickel CB, some think his best fit is as a FS, and he played much of last season at SS, so there's a lot of positional flexibility at play, which will fit in nicely with Patrick Peterson and Morgan Burnett in my defensive backfield.
It will be interesting to see who's available once we get to the 8th round, but I'm perfectly happy going into next season with Gilchrist as a starter.
I'm pretty sure there should be one other team I can choose from. Sheet's screwed up.
My backup wasn't going to be from bsj, so Dollar can keep his pick but I think I should still be on the clock.
My backup wasn't going to be from bsj, so Dollar can keep his pick but I think I should still be on the clock.
Someone marked the Sentinels / Redskins as off-limits. I fixed that. The Sentinels, Raiders, Rams, Chiefs, and Falcons are available, though I've updated the sheet with Dollar's pick already so I'll have to undo that if you change your mind re: the Falcons.DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Yeah just saw that. Ok let's try this again.
PIckings are slim. Though at this point I like this guy better than what I think I'll get in the 8th round.
With Arrington gone, and already a hole at CB2 I need to add a guy to the secondary.
As a rookie this guy was on his way to becoming a beast. Now he's a bit older and had a hard time finding work. But he played 1000+ snaps on SF's defense in the slot, and is still a big physical corner. I'll still be on the lookout for a CB2, but this guy will replace Arrington
The San Francisco 49ers steal, CB Carlos Rogers
PIckings are slim. Though at this point I like this guy better than what I think I'll get in the 8th round.
With Arrington gone, and already a hole at CB2 I need to add a guy to the secondary.
As a rookie this guy was on his way to becoming a beast. Now he's a bit older and had a hard time finding work. But he played 1000+ snaps on SF's defense in the slot, and is still a big physical corner. I'll still be on the lookout for a CB2, but this guy will replace Arrington
The San Francisco 49ers steal, CB Carlos Rogers
I've got 2 massive holes in my secondary now, and I gave a lot of thought to one of the Rams out there...but decided to go a different direction.
I'll take the Chiefs pick.
I'll take the Chiefs pick.
Point of clarification: The 8th round picks are the 8th round overall in the offseason draft, which means the 6th round of the next part of the draft.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Honestly didn't know this. May have changed my decision, but otherwise I'm not going to complain.
I do think the stealing rounds should possibly be snake in the future. The guys at the top get first pickings, and the back end gets kind of screwed. With each player chosen and each team crossed off you aren't just losing one player you can no longer draft, you're losing 16.
So the first few picks get
1. The best players to steal.
2. 2 chances at close to 500 players to choose from.
While the back end gets
1. A middle of the road steal
2. One pick with <50 players to choose from OR a 6th round pick.
If the pool didn't get exponentially smaller by the back end I wouldn't complain. Though the 6th round pick is a decent value I don't believe it's really enough.
DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Don't rock the boat when it comes to draft order, man.
People freak out.
Oh I'm going to rock it.
Not complaining this time around, just from my POV the stealing rounds (because of the 2 player limit) are leaned greatly in the favor of the top picks. Just a suggestion for future years.
Not complaining this time around, just from my POV the stealing rounds (because of the 2 player limit) are leaned greatly in the favor of the top picks. Just a suggestion for future years.
SMU_Sox said:
I think the draft should be standard, but when it comes to the stealing rounds (since there are only two), maybe something a little closer to parity is a better strategy. The stealing rounds do feel more like free agency after all. It's not like the NFL screws the better teams in that regard.
Obviously only the back end guys are going to feel this way so we'll be the minority but hey might as well give my two cents.
DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
I thought it was PERFECT this year. Next year, when Steelers are most likely be picking in the high-twenties, snaking rounds would be AWESOME.
I like the "we're going to be a playoff team" confidence coupled with the "but we're going to lose there" humility.SeoulSoxFan said:
I think we should have such a thread, but I don't think it needs to close Monday. Just leave it open and we can discuss rule changes for next year after we're done with the draft this year.soxfan121 said:
Turrable said:
It's the Sentinels at 24. Which means Laddie has to pick a Rams player and this god forsaken round is over!
DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Not only the back end guys feel this way. We should just make it one round.
Super Nomario said:
Well he is the Steelers! /Rimshot
Brandon LaFell, WR, Patriots. Because he's gonna have Brady throwing at him in real life. And, fuck it. I need a WR and he might be better than Marlon Brown.
Alright, that's a wrap on the stealing rounds. By popular demand, we're waiting to start Round 3 until the real NFL draft is over.