RealFantasy Pigskin 2013: Draft and Discussion
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So I decided to go against a kicker and fill my last team need other than a punter or kicker.
With that, the Chiefs select RB/QB/WR - Brad Smith : please put him in my FB position
He is a very versatile player, and can do many things for an offense, he can throw, catch and run and has big play ability. He also has the ability to return punts and kickoffs and do it pretty well. I am happy picking him up this late in the draft. He is better at all these things than the guy in the picture below with him and many people want him to do the same things.
With that, the Chiefs select RB/QB/WR - Brad Smith : please put him in my FB position
He is a very versatile player, and can do many things for an offense, he can throw, catch and run and has big play ability. He also has the ability to return punts and kickoffs and do it pretty well. I am happy picking him up this late in the draft. He is better at all these things than the guy in the picture below with him and many people want him to do the same things.
The San Francisco 49ers select: Dan Bailey, K
He's only 25 and tied for second in field goal percentage last year (over 8 atts).
He was perfect form under 50 yards. Welcome aboard Dan.
He's only 25 and tied for second in field goal percentage last year (over 8 atts).
He was perfect form under 50 yards. Welcome aboard Dan.
I actually think we're doing alright. The Marathon slowed us down but we only have two rounds left and are still moving at a reasonable pace.
I know last time by this point we had multiple people who had been skipped for multiple rounds. A few never even finished their teams. Right now we only have two SKIPs and they both have been this round. Doesn't seem like we lost anyone and we should finish up by next week at the latest.
I know last time by this point we had multiple people who had been skipped for multiple rounds. A few never even finished their teams. Right now we only have two SKIPs and they both have been this round. Doesn't seem like we lost anyone and we should finish up by next week at the latest.
Also since there's downtime I was looking over the chart and there are a few people with missing slots on their position chart.
If anyone makes a change if they could bold it the chart updaters would be much appreciated.
If anyone makes a change if they could bold it the chart updaters would be much appreciated.
Kai Forbath, K. He needs to work on his kickoffs but he was deadly accurate after winning the Skins job midway through last year (12-12 on FGs > 40 yards) and he's not a dome or warm-weather kicker.
Can you guess which of these tools is an NFL player?
Can you guess which of these tools is an NFL player?
DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Niles Paul (TE for the FB slot) is missing from my position chart.
Thanks
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:Kai Forbath, K. He needs to work on his kickoffs but he was deadly accurate after winning the Skins job midway through last year (12-12 on FGs > 40 yards) and he's not a dome or warm-weather kicker.
Can you guess which of these tools is an NFL player?
Without cheating... the guy on the far left (mine) with the visor has the most muscle tone. I'll guess him because the others don't even look to be in remote football shape even for a kicker.
Guy in the vest with the green hat is my 2nd guess.
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
There's not much discussion of picks at this point but I was choosing between Bailey and Forbath at my last pick. Forbath was dominate down the stretch (and was very helpful in my fantasy football playoffs). His KOs were definitely the only thing that scared me away. Still one hell of a place kicker.
The LA Rams select Donnie Jones, P.
The best punter in the league last year by PFF's ratings, and has consistently solid for years.
EDIT - Tito PMed.
The best punter in the league last year by PFF's ratings, and has consistently solid for years.
EDIT - Tito PMed.
DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
Somehow, I lost track of my DBs and drafted an extra safety: Brandon Taylor. I guess he can be slotted in the CB3 slot.
Dustin Colquitt, P, KC
One of the best kickers in football last season with more than half his kicks ending up inside the 20. Hopefully he can be a place kicker, too, since I screwed up my draft.
One of the best kickers in football last season with more than half his kicks ending up inside the 20. Hopefully he can be a place kicker, too, since I screwed up my draft.
The Ron Cadillacs select Matt Bosher, Punter.
We wanted to go with a kicker over a punter, but Bosher represented too much value to pass up. He's a kick-off specialist, as well as a punter, which is important because we plan to be kicking off a lot. He also kicked FGs in college be hasn't done it in the pros.
We wanted to go with a kicker over a punter, but Bosher represented too much value to pass up. He's a kick-off specialist, as well as a punter, which is important because we plan to be kicking off a lot. He also kicked FGs in college be hasn't done it in the pros.
Time to answer the burning question you all have wanted to ask: what kind of offense will I run? The Cleveland Ravens select:
TE Dion Sims, Dolphins (ex-Michigan State) - put him in the FB / Flex spot
Sims was a fourth-round pick in the most recent draft. At 6'5" and with a 35" vertical leap (4th among TE), he's an imposing red zone threat, but this former high school hoops player is not a Jimmy Graham type. He has deceptive straight-line speed (his 4.75 40 actually beat better-regarded catchers Ertz and Escobar), but he doesn't have a lot of wiggle. But he's a load to bring down and one of the best blocking TE in the draft class. Basically, he's a classic in-line TE with some receiving upside.
This pick closes the book on my offense and solidifies what I'm trying to do. The O is built around my WR tandem - Michael Crabtree and Hakeem Nicks are very difficult coverage assignments, big players who are good route-runners. I could have tried to multiply my options by adding receiving threats, but instead I'm going to divide your defense with the running game. I have a very good run-blocking offensive line, two talented halfbacks, a QB with special running ability, and now two tight ends who can block: Sims, a classic in-line guy, and Lance Kendricks, a move player who can play in-line, h-back, in the slot, or as a fullback. So now you have to pick your poison: do you play eight in the box to slow down the run and count on your corners to defend my wideouts with just one safety deep, or do you give more coverage help and let me gash you on the ground? I can still go 5-wide by subbing in Jacoby Jones and Giovani Bernard for Sims and Bernard Pierce, but my bread-and-butter is going to be challenging your base defense to stop a stellar WR tandem combined with a punishing rushing assault. The read option will be particularly devastating; with the running threat compressing the middle of the field, Kaepernick will have a ton of space on the outside keeper, and Nicks and Crabtree are two of the best run-blocking WR in the NFL.
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TE Dion Sims, Dolphins (ex-Michigan State) - put him in the FB / Flex spot
Sims was a fourth-round pick in the most recent draft. At 6'5" and with a 35" vertical leap (4th among TE), he's an imposing red zone threat, but this former high school hoops player is not a Jimmy Graham type. He has deceptive straight-line speed (his 4.75 40 actually beat better-regarded catchers Ertz and Escobar), but he doesn't have a lot of wiggle. But he's a load to bring down and one of the best blocking TE in the draft class. Basically, he's a classic in-line TE with some receiving upside.
This pick closes the book on my offense and solidifies what I'm trying to do. The O is built around my WR tandem - Michael Crabtree and Hakeem Nicks are very difficult coverage assignments, big players who are good route-runners. I could have tried to multiply my options by adding receiving threats, but instead I'm going to divide your defense with the running game. I have a very good run-blocking offensive line, two talented halfbacks, a QB with special running ability, and now two tight ends who can block: Sims, a classic in-line guy, and Lance Kendricks, a move player who can play in-line, h-back, in the slot, or as a fullback. So now you have to pick your poison: do you play eight in the box to slow down the run and count on your corners to defend my wideouts with just one safety deep, or do you give more coverage help and let me gash you on the ground? I can still go 5-wide by subbing in Jacoby Jones and Giovani Bernard for Sims and Bernard Pierce, but my bread-and-butter is going to be challenging your base defense to stop a stellar WR tandem combined with a punishing rushing assault. The read option will be particularly devastating; with the running threat compressing the middle of the field, Kaepernick will have a ton of space on the outside keeper, and Nicks and Crabtree are two of the best run-blocking WR in the NFL.
ESC PM'd
Sorry guys. Busy night. Didn't mean to hold things up.
The Patriots are going to select their first actual Patriot (eventhough that could change by the end of TC, but you never know) in Ryan Allen P
The kid won back to back Ray Guy Awards last year and the year before as NCAA's best overall punter. He averaged close to 50 yards a punt last season and had a season long 85 yard kick. He has a very strong leg and he's deadly accurate, over 44% of his punts last year landed inside the 20. It's a game of field position and I want to make sure that I win that battle. This kid may be cast off or practice squad material but I think Mesko needs to watch his back.
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The Patriots are going to select their first actual Patriot (eventhough that could change by the end of TC, but you never know) in Ryan Allen P
The kid won back to back Ray Guy Awards last year and the year before as NCAA's best overall punter. He averaged close to 50 yards a punt last season and had a season long 85 yard kick. He has a very strong leg and he's deadly accurate, over 44% of his punts last year landed inside the 20. It's a game of field position and I want to make sure that I win that battle. This kid may be cast off or practice squad material but I think Mesko needs to watch his back.
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Levine Toilolo, TE (Atlanta)
I had Toilolo ranked higher than Dion Sims, but not by much. Sims is an excellent in-line TE prospect who is one of the better blocking TEs in this draft class. Toilolo is very similar - a bit taller (6'8") and heavier (265), slightly better 3-cone (7.09), slightly worse 40 time (4.86), slightly longer arms.
Toilolo was taken by the Falcons, a team with a long term need at TE, but a short term roadblock to playing time (TG). Toilolo was overshadowed by Fleener and Ertz and was less productive catching the ball than both in college. However, he is rated by some scouts as an "excellent blocker" which is why the Bengal Bay Bengals have selected him here. With James Casey on board as our Joker, having an excellent blocker who can be a red zone target and run some short routes in the passing game completes our offense. Toilolo probably blocks more than he catches for us, given the presence of potentially shaky pass blocking tackles. And he projects to do that very well, especially as a "chip" specialist in the mold of Daniel Graham.
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I had Toilolo ranked higher than Dion Sims, but not by much. Sims is an excellent in-line TE prospect who is one of the better blocking TEs in this draft class. Toilolo is very similar - a bit taller (6'8") and heavier (265), slightly better 3-cone (7.09), slightly worse 40 time (4.86), slightly longer arms.
Toilolo was taken by the Falcons, a team with a long term need at TE, but a short term roadblock to playing time (TG). Toilolo was overshadowed by Fleener and Ertz and was less productive catching the ball than both in college. However, he is rated by some scouts as an "excellent blocker" which is why the Bengal Bay Bengals have selected him here. With James Casey on board as our Joker, having an excellent blocker who can be a red zone target and run some short routes in the passing game completes our offense. Toilolo probably blocks more than he catches for us, given the presence of potentially shaky pass blocking tackles. And he projects to do that very well, especially as a "chip" specialist in the mold of Daniel Graham.
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I'll take the other Colquitt.
britton Colquitt, p
A wish he has another 3-4 yards in tha mile high air...but has a good net and a good inside the 20 pct
britton Colquitt, p
A wish he has another 3-4 yards in tha mile high air...but has a good net and a good inside the 20 pct
He's 12 of 13 from 40-49 last 2 seasons, and we play in a dome. Can that 3/8 from 50+ improve? I think it can.DanoooME said: