Red Sox in season discussion
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Schwarber to Philly possibly.
View: https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1504084493413535744?s=21
View: https://twitter.com/ken_rosenthal/status/1504084493413535744?s=21
Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't Kris Bryant a great fit for a team that plays half of its games at Fenway?
Damn it. I loved watching him hit for us and he seemed to love it here. Eager to see the terms but it seems like a real missed opportunity.
Starting to get a little itchy. Be nice if Bloom would improve the team somewhat. The likeliest outcomes for Freeman and Correa are Los Angeles and Houston and I’m not sure where that leaves us. Not a big Kris Bryant guy and certainly not wild about Soler or Castellanos playing right field.
I think i am done waiting on Chaim.
Suzuki fits a glaring need. He has the chance to be a transcendent player. And he is CHEAP by MLB standards.
I rarely post on the main board (queue the "why did you start now" eyerolls) because I don't bring much value. but i am so frustrated at the moment.
Suzuki fits a glaring need. He has the chance to be a transcendent player. And he is CHEAP by MLB standards.
I rarely post on the main board (queue the "why did you start now" eyerolls) because I don't bring much value. but i am so frustrated at the moment.
I’m torn on this.
Bogie deserves everything free agency can bring. While we have a successor in the system, he’s 3-4 years away, at best, and not every super prospect develops linearly, if at all. Bogie is a guy who commands clubhouse and opposition respect, and his bat should hold for a few years. He also seems to have a special relationship with Devers, who will be affected by this as he considers his own extension. Finally, a decision to trade him or let him hit free agency will have an immediate negative effect on the fan base, coming in the vapor trail of the Betts situation.
Correa immediately corrects the defensive short comings and brings his own bat to the table. But he’s going to want a lot of years, Bogie becomes redundant (unless you will pay him SS money on the opt out even if he’s not playing there), so even if you’re willing to let Bogie walk, or trade him, will you let Correa block Mayer, or would he be willing to shift positions himself 3-4 years from now? He also brings his own reputational issues, although I wouldn’t spend a lot of time worrying about these. Correa seems to have a good relationship with Correa, but that’s a maraschino cherry in this discussion. The big concern is the domino effect on a lot of other decision making.
Freddie represents a different proposition. For the moment, he would offer great defense at first base, which immediately makes X a different and better fielder. (Fingers crossed.) He also blocks a great prospect who is only 1-2 years away, at most, but JD in this configuration may simply re-up elsewhere when his contract expires, so if Casas is ready, Freddie moves over to DH and this leaves Bloom ready to deal with Bogie without his hand being forced with a resentful Bogie. The same considerations about paying Bogie apply, but without the sturm und drang of forcing the Bogie issue of what to pay him - sign him for what it takes get 2-3 years of whatever he can do defensively, then hopefully he slides to second when Mayer is ready and in the meanwhile Freddie stabilizes some of Bogie’s shortcomings although he can’t expand his range limitations. (Yorke is eventually coming up, but he’s less imminent.)
Freddie is just the easier and cleaner pathway. Will they fail to extend Bogie or he won’t move to 2d in a few years? What happens if either Mayer or Casas fails to develop? Stuff happens. You can’t plan against every contingency in this environment. Freddie is the cleaner resolution and reduces complications in dealing with Bogie and Devers.
Schwarber feels like a cheesesteak man and all we could offer were Italian sausages. Sometimes it's just not a fit.
Bryant would have been perfect for the team, but it sounds like the Rockies want to give him a truck full of money for some reason. The outfield is starting to sound more like a dumpster diving opportunity than making a big splash.
Now I'm ambivalent. You have one of the very best avatars and I don't want to have to look at Heyman unless absolutely necessary.
Freeman isn't managed by Boras, is he? (I did a brief search without finding the answer.)
Maybe I missed something but the only bluster I recall was one tweet in which the poster incorrectly claimed that Suzuki had signed with the Padres.
Chaim press conference right now. Not confirming any players but saying something along the lines of 'suffice to say, if there's talent out there, we're looking at that.' Also didn't deny Freeman (nor confirm)--sounds to me like they're in on him.
Also...Sale stress fracture. No opening day, no timetable ('weeks, not days'). Ugh.
Also...Sale stress fracture. No opening day, no timetable ('weeks, not days'). Ugh.
Correa, Bryant, Story, Castellanos still out there, as well as Soler, Conforto, Rosario, Pham, Pederson.
Maybe Chaim is waiting to make his big splash at the last second, but it sure looks like the team doesn’t want to sign players to multi-year deals, which really limits the kind of players you can get.
Very frustrating off-season.
Maybe Chaim is waiting to make his big splash at the last second, but it sure looks like the team doesn’t want to sign players to multi-year deals, which really limits the kind of players you can get.
Very frustrating off-season.
This likely should be broken out into a new thread.
As should a discussion of top prospects for the 2023 Draft.
But there’s a market for JD. Nelson Cruz was reportedly pursued by the Dodgers, Padres, Rays, Twins, Braves and Brewers and signed with the freaking Nats for $15M. He’s 7 years older than JDM and posted a 122 wRC+ last year to JD’s 128.
The thing that Suzuki refuted was that he had signed (with the Padres), to my understanding. The report from Nikkan Sports, a Japanese outlet cited in this NBC Sports article and elsewhere, said he had preferred a warm climate. I’m not sure if the two notions were conflated all along and don’t know the credibility of Nikkan Sports, but since both items were reported separately and Suzuki didn’t address the weather stuff, it seemed like part of the discourse.
Again.... why does he look soooo relaxed? Should look iike haven't had any sleep and drinking coffee... Like Alex A (from Atlanta) did yesterday... makin' deals
This team's offense is fairly good but our SP has no depth at all. Signing an aging Freeman is a bad idea. His best seasons are likely behind him and Casas could be ready this year. Maybe Bloom is looking at the state of the division and thinking we are probably not division contenders? No huge FA signings this offseason but more depth signings like Hernandez last season? Kris Bryant could be a decent fit here, positional flexibility, 3+ WAR player.
I mean…c’mon. How often does a stress fracture of a rib throwing a pitch happen?
Dude it was a tossed off line meant to play off Windy City and supported by mainstream reporting. Go police something else.
It sucks, but this seems premature. Sox did pretty well last year without Sale for most of the year. Also lost E-Rod but got some decent rotation depth. Division has gotten better but offseason not done yet and I think safe to assume the Sox have some more moves in them (hopefully an impact move or two).
Does Sale injury play into Freeman calculus at all? Sign Freeman, trade Casas for a package involving Montas or Manaea?
This seems to be Chaim's M.O. Let's all be prepared for a Hunter Renfroe type acquisition. Either it'll work (as well as Renfroe did) or it'll be Franchy 2.0. I'm getting ready for the inevitable Jorge Soler signing. Oh boy.
Schwarber gets a 4 yr. deal. Congrats Kyle wanted you back but not for 4 years.
View: https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1504092969120538635
"Kyle Schwarber, pending physical, is a 4-year agreement with an AAV just under $20 million per year."
View: https://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/1504092969120538635
"Kyle Schwarber, pending physical, is a 4-year agreement with an AAV just under $20 million per year."
That’s a fine contract IMO. He’s still under 30 and 20M per will be standard DH-only dollars.
I agree that it‘s hard to wait and watch in particular the Yankees and Blue Jays seem to improve their rosters more than the Red Sox this past week, but I don’t share your frustration with Chaim. To me, he earned a substantial amount of benefit of the doubt by getting to the ALCS last season thanks in part to smart under the radar moves.
I’m trying to wait to see what other shoes drop before passing judgment.
I thought he was a bit older and he has only been a Major Leaguer since 2015. Getting old time flies (referring to me, not Schwarber).
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I'm pretty bad at interpreting advanced fielding stats, especially for first baseman, but it looks like Freeman grades pretty poorly on that front. I know he's won Gold Gloves, but... yeah, someone make me feel better about Freeman's defense. A cold reading on Fangraphs and B-Ref has him as not too dissimilar to Bobby Dalbec, whose first base defense was not pretty.
Totally agree... I am watching his press conference - and getting notifications of signings and trades at the exact same moment. He comments about sweating from jogging.... while other GMs are busy working phones and drinking coffee to make it through. He just seems to be standing on the side and not ready to jump in the deep end with the AL East teams... not that a big splash needs to be made, but work with Devers on a contract or Boggie..
Horrible off-season so far IMO
Schwarber signs for less than 4/80
Im wondering what the plan is beyond accumulating mediocre to poor RP and injured SP
Schwarber signs for less than 4/80
Im wondering what the plan is beyond accumulating mediocre to poor RP and injured SP
He grades as a +2 over the last three years by defensive runs saved. For context, Olson is +21 over that time, Rizzo is +3, Dalbec -7 last year alone.
By outs above average Freeman is also +2 over ‘19-21. Some variation with the others: Olson is +8 over that span, Rizzo +9, and Dalbec is at -6.
I know you guys wanted him.
View: https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1504080530471636992?s=20&t=2qQ__W7ZwKdJ1HrruHz1nA
View: https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/1504080530471636992?s=20&t=2qQ__W7ZwKdJ1HrruHz1nA
Thanks. That news came out 2 hours ago -- it's amazing that you're the first to post it here on this board filled with baseball diehards.
Actually, looking a page back the news is there from Japan, but all the US reporters are reporting it now.
Yeah, still waiting on Bloom's "gear shift" into signing some big free agents that some posters were so certain would happen (I think some were projecting Suzuki AND Schwarber AND Correa). Suzuki such an obvious fit, and wouldn't break the bank. Damn shame.
But so far Bloom's signed a bunch of arms who were at their best in 2018 .... hmmm.
I suppose a Freeman signing would signal a gear shift. He'd immediately make the team better, but what an odd guy to target, given you have Dalbec and Casas. I mean, at this point I hope they get him rather than no big bat at all. Kris Bryant might be a better overall fit, but no buzz on him ....
My guess is it will be someone like Soler, and everyone will start blurring their eyes and insisting that he's as good as anyone the Sox could have landed.
But I do indeed hope I'm wrong ...
I don’t know why it constantly has to be said that your goal is not to “win” the off-season, as being the best team on paper means jack *****
i mean how many times were the dodgers or Yankees(and the padres of recent) considered winners of the off-season?
how many rings did those teams win after winning the off-season?
i mean how many times were the dodgers or Yankees(and the padres of recent) considered winners of the off-season?
how many rings did those teams win after winning the off-season?
Amazed at how many posters here are in the room with Chaim and know exactly how hard he’s working.
How quickly everyone seems to have forgotten his awful deadline which turned out to be one of the best deadlines any team had?
How quickly everyone seems to have forgotten his awful deadline which turned out to be one of the best deadlines any team had?