Nah, it'd be really rude of you to write all over jmcc's Bob Feller ball. (And how would you explain being near his dresser?)OMG I wish I thought of that!
Nah, it'd be really rude of you to write all over jmcc's Bob Feller ball. (And how would you explain being near his dresser?)OMG I wish I thought of that!
How the fuck is it a dick move? Kid wants the ball, he can keep the ball. The dick move is harassing him about it trying to get him to change his mind.I'm shocked that so many are perfectly fine with this family, and yes it's a family decision, not doing the traditional, and honorable, thing, and giving Masa his first HR ball in exchange for something of equal or greater value. I mean, sure he has a right to keep it. But it's a dick move. Always has been. Always will be.
But "it's just a ball" to everyone but Yoshida. To him, its a milestone.Ugh, it's just a ball. Why does anyone care? I have a ball signed by Bob Feller. It just sits there in a plastic box. Yoshida got the first hit ball back I think? That'll do I suspect. He has other goals.
We sure about that? I mean, on some level yeah, but maybe he doesn't care about such things.But "it's just a ball" to everyone but Yoshida. To him, its a milestone.
You think it’s obnoxious of a ten year old to love baseball and his home team that completely? Jaysus, even I’m not that curmudgeonly. Y’all need some youthful joy.Obviously he doesn’t have to give the ball back. I don’t have to like it though. I think it’s obnoxious but everybody’s MMV.
This argument kind of rings hollow though becomes if he really loved the team completely he’d 1) probably want to give a player a milestone ball and 2) be pretty excited to get some cooler swag from the team/playerYou think it’s obnoxious of a ten year old to love baseball and his home team that completely? Jaysus, even I’m not that curmudgeonly. Y’all need some youthful joy.
Really? I can tell you my father would never have sold his Ted Williams home run ball no matter how much he was offered. I inherited and I can tell you that I’ve turned down huge offers because I wouldn’t trade that bit of Sox history for the world. Y’all need some youthful enthusiasm.This argument kind of rings hollow though becomes if he really loved the team completely he’d 1) probably want to give a player a milestone ball and 2) be pretty excited to get some cooler swag from the team/player
That’s really cool. Do you have any idea what home run # the ball is?Really? I can tell you my father would never have sold his Ted Williams home run ball no matter how much he was offered. I inherited and I can tell you that I’ve turned down huge offers because I wouldn’t trade that bit of Sox history for the world. Y’all need some youthful enthusiasm.
Sure. I don’t know the family and the child and can’t pass any bona fide judgment. In general I think these balls should go back to the player so I thought it was a bad look.You think it’s obnoxious of a ten year old to love baseball and his home team that completely? Jaysus, even I’m not that curmudgeonly. Y’all need some youthful joy.
So much this.Immaterial to the current situation (cause it's the kid's ball and whatever the family decide, they decide), but it's also not like Yoshida is some kid whose whole MLB future is uncertain either; the man's getting $18M per for the next half decade.
Which is a really weird thing to teach a kid. "Timmy, the unimaginably wealthy man wants that thing that's yours, so you have to trade it to him to maintain decorum."
Thanks for the clarification; during the many shots on the broadcast of the negotiations, at one point I saw someone with Pirates gear on, was wondering what his role was.Turns out the guy who caught the ball was a Pirates fan, and he decided to hand it over to the kid to be a good guy (not realizing it was Yoshida’s first). Even the Pirates fan was trying to convince the family to give it up, since they never caught it to begin with. Verdict: dick move.
My father caught it in ‘58 during a Senators game. However his uncle had season tickets and used to take my father to 40-60 games a year, so I can’t tell you what number it is (I looked it up a number of years ago, he hit a bunch against the Senators that season). Still no way I’d ever sell the thing.That’s really cool. Do you have any idea what home run # the ball is?
Awesome story and a cherished possession. Thanks for sharing!My father caught it in ‘58 during a Senators game. However his uncle had season tickets and used to take my father to 40-60 games a year, so I can’t tell you what number it is (I looked it up a number of years ago, he hit a bunch against the Senators that season). Still no way I’d ever sell the thing.
I love him but these weak choppers to the right side of the infield have to stop.I don’t think the times have changed. This is kinda flukey.
Meanwhile, how much do we love this guy already? We’re already cranky on his behalf!
but what about a signed picture with Tessie!I was thinking about this last night, totally unaware that the family didn’t give the ball away.
Good for them.
At the very least, if it were me I’d have gone home with it and done my research into the ball’s value. If the Sox wanted to match the monetary value in merch (future game tix, signed jersey, etc) then that’s a fair exchange.
If Yoshida wants it he’s also welcome to pay a fair market value. He signed a $90 million deal, I’m sure he can afford it. Or the Sox can buy it for him. They certainly have the scratch.
What I wouldn’t do is just hand the thing over for a bat and a cap.
I think he went out there planning on conducting a feel-good interview with a family who had a really cool thing happen to them, and then he found out that the family (not the kid) were being dicks about it. My guess is even then he figured that they would change their tune eventually. The age of the kid has nothing to do with it. My kids were not making a lot of major decisions when they were 10. That’s what parents are for.but what about a signed picture with Tessie!
I also felt like it was a very poor look for NESN when Jahmai was standing directly behind them and reporting that they were refusing to turn it over as if to publicly shame them.
Red Sox with two homers in an inning:
Yoshida (2023)
Ortiz (2008)
Nomar (2002)
Burks (1990)
Bill Regan (1928)
Not the Red Sox, but other Boston players to do it were Bobby Lowe (Boston Beaneaters, 1894) and Charley Jones (Boston Red Stockings, 1880 - the first to do it)
Masataka Yoshida is the 4th rookie in MLB history with two home runs in an inning and the first since Joe Pepitone in 1962.
.298 | .391 | .511 | .902 | 145 |
.277 | .330 | .327 | .657 | 83 |
Who is Frodo?Yoshi with a 145 OPS+. His current raw batting numbers are not terribly out of line with his prior seasons: https://www.baseball-reference.com/register/player.fcgi?id=yoshid002mas
.298 .391 .511 .902 145
Meanwhile Frodo is sporting an 83 OPS+.
.277 .330 .327 .657 83
Dan Shaugnessy. Carl Everett called him Curly Haired Boyfriend a long time agoWho is CHB?
That must be the third or fourth “Frodo” in SoSH history. We need an index.It looks like Frodo is Benintendi
And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost.That must be the third or fourth “Frodo” in SoSH history. We need an index.
There may come a day when SOSH no longer recalls Benintendi the Hobbit…but it is not *this* day.And some things that should not have been forgotten were lost.
In what I've seen, he looks competent with limited range.Only concern is the defense. Reports were that he wasn't a strong defender. So far it looks like he's probably headed to DH after Turner's conctract is up.
Hernandez might have adequate range, but he makes errors, which make him look worse. Yoshida isn't making the errors, but has little range, so balls just fall in. There aren't a lot of "wow, that sure looked like it was going to drop" catches from Yoshida. It certainly doesn't look as bad (except to the pitcher), as the errors at SS, but the resulting non-out is the same. Of course, if Hernandez was in CF, he'd be able to help there.In what I've seen, he looks competent with limited range.
Looks like he has 35 put outs, one assist, and one error. Fangraphs has him at -4 defensive runs saved, so there's something going on. Looks like -1 for rARM which is how often a baserunner advances/is thrown out on a base hit and -3 for rPM which is described as Plus/Minus Runs Saved. Not sure what that means.
Fielding bible has both Yoshida and Hernandez at -4 total runs saved... Hernandez has seemed drastically worse to my eyes.
Who is Frodo?
What is P&G?Who is CHB?
What would "soft" even mean for a baseball player? The only thing I can think of is sliding into a base (burn in hell Machado.).I wonder if CHB still considers Yoshida soft. Shaugnassy used that exact perogative in his Sunday column today. I could not believe a journalist would be that impatient to label a player particularly in Yoshida's case since he has so much to adjust to simply coming over to this country. Then again it's Shaughnessy so why should I be surprised?