SBLII: The Brady Watch

DJnVa

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Why would he have both gloves on for practice, come in and only take off the left glove? That would cause greater hysterics and look even more ridiculous My guess is that it’s pretty badly bruised.
I can't even follow your logic. Glove on right hand because of injury, glove on left to match because he's fashion-conscious? Or because it's cold? Then he comes in from practice, showers, puts glove back on injured hand (all good) and then on his uninjured hand? Why?

Christ almighty, we know his right hand is hurt--no one would think it strange if he had just a glove on that hand at the podium.
 

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I think I'm missing the point.

He is wearing gloves because he doesn't want us to see his hand. Wearing one would look dumb. (Or, maybe it's hard to take the left one off with his right hand.) He kept his gloves on so that nobody could see the hand. If that's all anyone means by "trolling," then I agree.
Don't waste your time.

Only someone trying to troll wears 2 gloves when he's trying to hide an injury on one hand. Somehow that's trolling.

The asylum is overrun. Bail while you can.
 

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BOTH HANDS. He's covering an /uninjured/ part of his body.

That, and that alone, is 100000000% trolling.
It's like wearing one Ugg boot ... now THAT would be trolling

Well, so is wearing 2 Ugg boots, so ...
 
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I can't even follow your logic. Glove on right hand because of injury, glove on left to match because he's fashion-conscious? Or because it's cold? Then he comes in from practice, showers, puts glove back on injured hand (all good) and then on his uninjured hand? Why?

Christ almighty, we know his right hand is hurt--no one would think it strange if he had just a glove on that hand at the podium.
So your logic is that he put the left glove on to troll the media?
 

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Chances that Brady actually has a hand injury: 100%.

Chances that Brady and the Patriots will do everything they can do downplay or otherwise obfuscate the nature and seriousness of the injury: 100%.

Chances that Brady was having a bit of fun with the media while avoiding answering questions: 100%. I think it ties into Belichick's information control, something which Brady has always seemingly bought into. While not trolling, Brady was clearly following a party line.

Chances that Brady plays on Sunday: 95%. I'll hedge my bets in case there is a complication that arises over the weekend.

Chances that Brady is able to be Brady on Sunday: More probable than not. But that OL had better have one of their better games Sunday, or this could get ugly.
 

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If Brady is playing up his injury or being intentionally coy, its not to mess with the media, it’s to mess with the Jaguars. You think Belichick/Brady don’t realize that every second the Jaguars are devoting to thinking about whether they should adjust their game plan/preparation in light of this injury is a second they aren’t focusing on other aspects of their preparation?
This is all affecting the Jaguars coaching staff zero.zero percent.
 

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This is all affecting the Jaguars coaching staff zero.zero percent.
If concealing the true extent (or lack thereof) of an injury while still complying with league rules doesn't affect the other team at all, then why does Belichick do it all the time? He must think there is some advantage to it beyond just "messing with the media."
 

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If concealing the true nature (or lack thereof) of an injury while still complying with league rules doesn't affect the other team at all, then why does Belichick do it all the time? He must think there is some advantage to it beyond just "messing with the media."
What were the media talking about all last week? Turmoil in Patriots land, they hate each other. He now has them spinning in hamster cages and leaving the rest of it alone
 

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What were the media talking about all last week? Turmoil in Patriots land, they hate each other. He now has them spinning in hamster cages and leaving the rest of it alone
So if the Wickersham story hadn't come out last week, the Pats would have been more forthcoming about the Brady injury? Come on, that's never been how the Patriots operate. Belichick likes to control the flow of information purely and simply because doing so eliminates the possibility of giving the opposing team any advantage.
 

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If concealing the true extent (or lack thereof) of an injury while still complying with league rules doesn't affect the other team at all, then why does Belichick do it all the time? He must think there is some advantage to it beyond just "messing with the media."
There's no reason to give the opponent any more information than necessary. There's also no reason to let opposing players know that every time Player X gets hit in the ribs today it's going to hurt like a mf'er.

But the Jaguars coaching staff is not examining photos of Tom Brady's thumb from a press conference, divining from those photos the nature and extent of his injury, guessing how that might change the Patriots' approach, and then adjusting their defensive gameplanning accordingly. They are preparing for regular old HOFer Tom Brady.
 

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Just “pretty good?”
He was still talking about Brady’s face. “Pretty.” “Good.”

It'd he helpful if we had a clear definition of "trolling". Rev, want to have at that? ;)
It’s pretty hard given that a standard Patriots press conference is already a reasonably well orchestrated troll job.

Yeah, I think a troll job would be a comically large cast, an oven mitt, or one glove only on his right and when asked about it, he makes up an elaborate answer that makes no mention of his injury.

Anything else is just the standard caginess that BB expects of his players.
Right. Standard. Which for the Pats is trolling. As @Average Reds abd others noted, the players have been in on it for days.

It’s basically a team building exercise for them at this point—for anyone wondering why they might do it as though this is a hypothetical with no imaginable answer: They enjoy it. And it works.

Why anyone expects there to be a meaningful connection between knowledge of reality and what goes on at Patriots conferences with the media might be a better question. ;)

Well, wearing the gloves either means it's a troll job or it's something that is a bit concerning. There's really no in between.
Interestingly, though, it could be both at the same time.
 

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What were the media talking about all last week? Turmoil in Patriots land, they hate each other. He now has them spinning in hamster cages and leaving the rest of it alone
I was sorta hoping Brady would tell them he thinks the earth is flat.
 

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There's no reason to give the opponent any more information than necessary. There's also no reason to let opposing players know that every time Player X gets hit in the ribs today it's going to hurt like a mf'er.

But the Jaguars coaching staff is not examining photos of Tom Brady's thumb from a press conference, divining from those photos the nature and extent of his injury, guessing how that might change the Patriots' approach, and then adjusting their defensive gameplanning accordingly. They are preparing for regular old HOFer Tom Brady.
The simple presence of a glove on the throwing hand — even given the most benign explanation, e.g. Felger’s stiches — is sufficient to confirm that if you mess with the hand Sunday (run into it, step on it, whatever), it is going to hurt like a motherfucker.

i am not persuaded by the rib analogy. I do agree they are not in the business of providing any extra information.
 

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If Brady is playing up his injury or being intentionally coy, its not to mess with the media, it’s to mess with the Jaguars. You think Belichick/Brady don’t realize that every second the Jaguars are devoting to thinking about whether they should adjust their game plan/preparation in light of this injury is a second they aren’t focusing on other aspects of their preparation?
Exactly. We're talking about the team that hung thermometers to remind their opponents of how cold it is. I have no doubt that Brady injured his hand during practice to some degree. But no one outside of the Patriots inner circle knows how serious it is, and they're going to use the media flurry to their advantage. Brady was wearing gloves to the press conference today whether he was missing a finger or if it was just a bad hang nail.
 

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I can't even follow your logic. Glove on right hand because of injury, glove on left to match because he's fashion-conscious? Or because it's cold? Then he comes in from practice, showers, puts glove back on injured hand (all good) and then on his uninjured hand? Why?

Christ almighty, we know his right hand is hurt--no one would think it strange if he had just a glove on that hand at the podium.
You guys are missing the real story here. Obviously, BOTH hands are a medical disaster right now. Why else would anyone wear two gloves?
 

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A few years back I ripped open my hand (the webbing between my ring finger and pinky finger) playing goalie in soccer. It required 4 stitches. Hurt like a mofo at the moment. But I was ready to keep playing until my captain pointed out that while I hadn't looked down at my hand, it was indeed bleeding like a mofrackie. There was a ton of blood.
 

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If Brady is playing up his injury or being intentionally coy, its not to mess with the media, it’s to mess with the Jaguars. You think Belichick/Brady don’t realize that every second the Jaguars are devoting to thinking about whether they should adjust their game plan/preparation in light of this injury is a second they aren’t focusing on other aspects of their preparation?
I’m sure Marrone is working deep into the night to prepare for Hoyer, given the multi-dimensional challenge he presents and his scintillating early season work for the 49ers.
 

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If it does turn out to be stitches, we all get $10 back from DRS right?
 

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Brady’s playing and he will play well. Unless Irving Fryar’s (may he Rest In Peace) wife goes after the hand. If that happens, well then, that’s real trouble.