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QUOTE (sass a thon @ Mar 15 2010, 02:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2850896
Splits:
8:03, 7:56, 7:53, 7:58, 8:07, 8:00, 8:00, 8:00, 7:35, 7:41, 7:49, 7:47, 7:30 (.18 in 6:44)

Great run, sass. Congratulations. My next half is part of a half-iron triathlon in June. If I can at least see someone up ahead on the horizon running with that pace from where I will probably be running, I will be happy.

Just got my bib number for Boston: 22739. Getting closer every day.
 

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Went for my first rehab session today. I've got a shin splint in my left leg and achilles tendon bursitis in my right foot. No running for a week and at least one month of rehab. Yes, I know it could be much worse, but it sucks being told not to run.

For the record, I never thought I would say that.
 

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QUOTE (sass a thon @ Mar 18 2010, 05:56 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2855355
Went for my first rehab session today. I've got a shin splint in my left leg and achilles tendon bursitis in my right foot. No running for a week and at least one month of rehab. Yes, I know it could be much worse, but it sucks being told not to run.

For the record, I never thought I would say that.

Having spent October through February in various forms of PT, all I can say is: do pretty much exactly what the professionals advise you to do and listen to your body. The only thing worse than being injured is making it worse by rushing through rehab. You will get better, but give your body the time it needs to heal.
 

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QUOTE (Trautwein's Degree @ Mar 14 2010, 08:32 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2849448
My wife wants to do the Women's Marathon in SF. I think, she thinks, that firemen in tuxedos handing out Tiffany medals at the finish line negate the hills.

Is she considering running it this year? Maybe we'll see you out there.
 

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QUOTE (Bongorific @ Mar 19 2010, 12:48 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2856676
Is she considering running it this year? Maybe we'll see you out there.


Not this year, she's pregnant. Maybe eventually. Though, I think her and I want to do Big Sur together.
 

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I just returned the Garmin footpod. It was neat getting the cadence data, but it just wasnt useful for me in any other situation. You had to calibrate it for the exact pace you were going to run or the data would be off.

Recent calibration factors for me:
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Pace Cal Factor
8:00 980
8:10 982
8:30 1000
8:50 1024


I was hoping to be able to use this on my treadmill or to get more accurate instant pace data as well as info on my cadence. The fact that I run at all sorts of paces makes the data a bit suspect. Oh well, it was nice to try. I'll have to go back to counting steps when I want cadence info.
 

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How'd everyone do today? I had a lot of fun running the NYC half marathon. It was my first time ever running this far, and I have to say, the last part of felt really tough. I felt amazing for the first 8 or 9 miles, and thought it was going to be a cake walk, but the course was set up so that you came out of Central Park at mile 8 and down 7th avenue into Times Square through a shitload of people and bands and excitement, then after a bit of that, they push you over to the West Side Highway and there was a really rough stretch in there where it felt really quiet and far between each mile marker. Since this was my first time my goals were - in order - have fun, finish, and finish in under two hours. Accomplished each one, which was nice. The last few miles each had a little walking break through some of the water stations.
Here are the splits from my Garmin:

9:25 (getting through the hoards of people)
8:40
8:35
8:50
8:32
9:24 (took a quick pee break just in case)
8:35
8:55
8:16 (coming out of the park, which totally fired me up. Also the course really flattened out here)
8:31
9:20
9:04
9:18
3:28 (last .4 miles - I guess all the zig-zagging through the course adds quite a bit of distance).

I think I probably would do it again, although I'd probably train a little bit differently to give myself a little more in the tank at the end. Thought I might be fired up for a full marathon after this, but I can't say for sure that I am feeling that right now. Still felt pretty hard and long. Maybe in a couple of days...
 

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QUOTE (Daubach is my Daddy @ Mar 21 2010, 02:30 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2858877
How'd everyone do today?...Since this was my first time my goals were - in order - have fun, finish, and finish in under two hours.


DimD, nice work. I think if you accomplished your goals, then great rejoicing should ensue! I haven't dared a distance longer than 5M for a race, so you are one up on me. How was the weather in NY today? The temps were great running in Fairfield, CT though today was really windy...it managed to be in my face seemingly no matter which cardinal direction I was facing. I sympathize with you on the "extra" distance it takes to finish a race. There is a special feeling when the Garmin records a distance within a dozen meters of the target distance; I've only done that once and that is for 5k's! Again, congrats on working it through.
 

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Sweet run, Dauber.

I felt great in New Bedford. I hit my goal of finishing in 2:10 on the button. My splits were consistent, and I was very pleased with that: http://connect.garmin.com/splits/27678266

My legs felt awesome, for the last 2 weeks, I did my training runs about a minute per mile slower than normal and it helped. The race itself was a lot of fun. New Bedford really gets behind it. My time was a full 8 minutes better than I did in Hartford 5 months ago. This gives me confidence, knowing I'm on pace for Burlington. I finished with something in the tank, though it's hard to imagine that in 9 weeks, I'll be going twice as far.
 

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QUOTE (rbeaud @ Mar 21 2010, 06:57 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2859298
DimD, nice work. I think if you accomplished your goals, then great rejoicing should ensue! I haven't dared a distance longer than 5M for a race, so you are one up on me. How was the weather in NY today? The temps were great running in Fairfield, CT though today was really windy...it managed to be in my face seemingly no matter which cardinal direction I was facing. I sympathize with you on the "extra" distance it takes to finish a race. There is a special feeling when the Garmin records a distance within a dozen meters of the target distance; I've only done that once and that is for 5k's! Again, congrats on working it through.


Weather was PERFECT. It was like 55 degrees and a little cloudy at the start. I didn't notice any wind at all. I pretty much started running three or four months ago, so all of my running has been through the heart of the winter. Definitely starting to enjoy it more when it's in shorts and a tee shirt.
 

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I did the Shamrock Half in VA Beach yesterday.

Finished in 2:20, which was 10 minutes slower than I wanted. But I don't care. It was my first half, so that I think that was a pretty darn good time for an old bag like me :)

Didn't carry a watch, so I had no idea how I was doing. My only complaint was that I was in line for a porta-potty when the gun went off and therefore, far back to cross the start line. They only took 5 minutes off my chip time from the gun time, I think it was longer than that. Oh, and I train all winter in crappy conditions and it ends up being 74 when I finish the race.

Anyway, this is a gorgeous race. Start out on Atlantic Ave at the waterfront. Run up Shore Drive through First Landing State Park and then down into Fort Story, which parallels the beach, so nice breeze, but a LOT of sun. Come back down Atlantic and right as you hit 45th Street, they put you right on the boardwalk to finish the race. Crowds were AMAZING. Yuengling was a great sponsor.
 

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QUOTE (bosoxgrl @ Mar 22 2010, 07:43 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2859956
I did the Shamrock Half in VA Beach yesterday.

Finished in 2:20, which was 10 minutes slower than I wanted. But I don't care. It was my first half, so that I think that was a pretty darn good time for an old bag like me :)


It was so much easier for me doing my second half. I knew what to expect. I knew I could do it and it simply became a matter of running my race. Though, it wasn't as rewarding to cross the finish line it still felt pretty damn sweet.

The other thing is the garmin made a huge difference for me. The first time, I really didn't log my training. I had no idea about heart rate or splits. Setting the garmin to break out mile laps was very useful to help me determine how I was doing. Also, looking over past running data allowed me to know whether or not what I was doing was sustainable, if I could pick things up, or needed to slow down a bit. It took me a while to get used to the garmin. At first I was glued to it and it was controlling and not monitoring how I was running.

In New Bedford my first mile was done at 9:36 which I knew was too fast for what I wanted to do which was treat it as a training run. I feel like I could have held that pace but everything I read about training for my first marathon tells me to train slowly. The happiness of running a 2:04 half would be short lived if it set me back for the marathon.

At the end of the day, the difference in time doesn't make that much of a difference to me anyhow. Is my life going to be any better if I run a 4:30 marathon versus a 4:45 marathon? I think not. Last year, I never thought I'd be doing any of this. I'm just happy to be healthy enough to enjoy running. A big thanks to everyone here for all your advice and support. It means a lot.
 

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QUOTE (bosoxgrl @ Mar 22 2010, 06:43 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2859956
I did the Shamrock Half in VA Beach yesterday.

Finished in 2:20, which was 10 minutes slower than I wanted. But I don't care. It was my first half, so that I think that was a pretty darn good time for an old bag like me :)

Didn't carry a watch, so I had no idea how I was doing. My only complaint was that I was in line for a porta-potty when the gun went off and therefore, far back to cross the start line. They only took 5 minutes off my chip time from the gun time, I think it was longer than that. Oh, and I train all winter in crappy conditions and it ends up being 74 when I finish the race.

Anyway, this is a gorgeous race. Start out on Atlantic Ave at the waterfront. Run up Shore Drive through First Landing State Park and then down into Fort Story, which parallels the beach, so nice breeze, but a LOT of sun. Come back down Atlantic and right as you hit 45th Street, they put you right on the boardwalk to finish the race. Crowds were AMAZING. Yuengling was a great sponsor.


Congrats! I'm so jealous that you get Yuengling as a race sponsor. We get MGD.
 

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Ok, I need some help here.

Looking for one or two 5K's between now and the end of May. Anyone know of any coming up?
 

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QUOTE (GregHarris @ Mar 25 2010, 11:29 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2864328
Ok, I need some help here.

Looking for one or two 5K's between now and the end of May. Anyone know of any coming up?


I usually check coolrunning.com to find races coming up. Often they have links to the race website so you can get info and even register online.
 

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QUOTE (GregHarris @ Mar 25 2010, 11:29 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2864328
Ok, I need some help here.

Looking for one or two 5K's between now and the end of May. Anyone know of any coming up?


If you're near/about the Merrimack Valley area, the Good Times series is starting their Spring series on Tuesday nights (http://www.goodtimesrun.com/).

Besides that, like Underhand said, I suggest coolrunning - nothing else online is close.
 

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Finally got to run my 5k time trial this morning. I ran the exact same route exactly 1 year ago. Last year I ran 20:14 and this year I ran 21:16. Considering I'm only doing slow miles now and still in the recovery phase I'm really excited with this time. I usually run 30-45 seconds faster in races compared to this route because of course difficulty and race conditions.

Legs felt good the entire race, but just couldnt breath. The hill at the halfway point almost stopped me, but I recovered a little on the way back down and kept a decent rhythm the way back. The last mile was done around 7 min pace but didnt feel too fast. I had plenty in my legs to kick in near 6:45 pace for the last half mile but CV fitness didnt allow me to go any faster.

Splits w/ avg hr
1.00 6:25 166
2.00 7:11 174
3.00 6:57 179
3.11 0:42 (6:42 pace) 182
 

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Anyone get into the Harpoon 5M today? It didn't like my Black Berry, so I'm out again...unless the site crashed for the second day in a row.

Edit: Luckily for me the website likes my friend's computer and we're in for the race.
 

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QUOTE (rbeaud @ Apr 2 2010, 12:40 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2874738
Anyone get into the Harpoon 5M today? It didn't like my Black Berry, so I'm out again...unless the site crashed for the second day in a row.

Edit: Luckily for me the website likes my friend's computer and we're in for the race.


I tried to sign up, but didn't make it. Was on Blackberry at 12pm, filled out form and just got a blank white page. Finally got to a computer around 2pm and saw that it sold out at 12:45. :(
 

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QUOTE (Joe Sixpack @ Apr 2 2010, 07:36 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2875136
I tried to sign up, but didn't make it. Was on Blackberry at 12pm, filled out form and just got a blank white page. Finally got to a computer around 2pm and saw that it sold out at 12:45. :(


Damn, they give you a few cases for finishing? What do they cap registration to? I didn't think that race was so popular!
 

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QUOTE (BleacherFan @ Apr 3 2010, 08:32 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2875452
Damn, they give you a few cases for finishing? What do they cap registration to? I didn't think that race was so popular!


It's only 2000 runners. Though that was still enough to mess with their server. Thursday was washed out and Friday was better just not by much. I would consider this the Holy Grail of weekends if the Scooperbowl was concurrent with the race. Alas, it is the Tu-Th following; I may have to work the wife on that one. Even the Sox are out of town.
 

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QUOTE (sass a thon @ Mar 15 2010, 02:38 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2850896
So, I ran my 10th half marathon yesterday; this time it was the Rock n Roll Dallas Half. I PR'd with a 1:43:52 on what was a beautiful day for a race. The first 8 miles were slightly uphill with a couple long, steep climbs and the rest was flat or downhill. Thankfully, my shin and heel injuries didn't hold me back, though I fear I made them worse. I really need to look into treatment before Eugene.

Splits:
8:03, 7:56, 7:53, 7:58, 8:07, 8:00, 8:00, 8:00, 7:35, 7:41, 7:49, 7:47, 7:30 (.18 in 6:44)

Anyway, the worst part of the day was, as my friends and I were recovering just past the finish line, a healthy 32-year-old former college baseball player collapsed right in front of us. The EMTs worked on him for 90 minutes but they were unable to revive him. Not to put on a damper on the whole thread, but please...if you post in this thread, get your heart checked at least once a year if not more.


My neighbor's brother just died in his sleep at 23. They think he had diabetes and didn't know (he'd been drinking). I'll be getting my first checkup in a while this month.
 

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I hope everyone is doing well - Spring is here and that means the start of racing season!

I had my MRI last week and I had my follow up with my orthopedic to go over the results. Good news - no tear, bad news - nothing really showed up on the MRI (scar tissue, etc) so he really didn't know what was wrong besides the symptoms of a strain. He said since PT didn't help to continue stretching and build up the strength in my hamstrings. I know my hamstrings are very weak, so I will continue with the weights and the gym and stretching them nightly. It is getting better slowly - which might be a blessing since I still can't run until the June time frame.

The weights are still going and I'm past that 'my muscles hurt every day' point. I have started doing 100+ crunches in assorted varieties every day and then doing legs,back/biceps,chest/tris in a 3 day cycle. This combined with 10 minute wu and 5 cd on the elliptical seems to be working OK.

I have gained about 5lbs and I can't tell if it's more me burning less calories or more gaining muscle mass. My sets are usually 3x15 to completion so I'd doing more endurance lifting.

Dave
 

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QUOTE (BleacherFan @ Apr 11 2010, 11:59 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2891863
I hope everyone is doing well - Spring is here and that means the start of racing season!

I had my MRI last week and I had my follow up with my orthopedic to go over the results. Good news - no tear, bad news - nothing really showed up on the MRI (scar tissue, etc) so he really didn't know what was wrong besides the symptoms of a strain. He said since PT didn't help to continue stretching and build up the strength in my hamstrings. I know my hamstrings are very weak, so I will continue with the weights and the gym and stretching them nightly. It is getting better slowly - which might be a blessing since I still can't run until the June time frame.

The weights are still going and I'm past that 'my muscles hurt every day' point. I have started doing 100+ crunches in assorted varieties every day and then doing legs,back/biceps,chest/tris in a 3 day cycle. This combined with 10 minute wu and 5 cd on the elliptical seems to be working OK.

I have gained about 5lbs and I can't tell if it's more me burning less calories or more gaining muscle mass. My sets are usually 3x15 to completion so I'd doing more endurance lifting.

Dave


Dave, good to hear you're making some progress. Good luck staying sane during the next couple months. Thanks for the update I was thinking about posting here this week to check on what you were up to.
 

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Yesterday I had a nice test of a few things I had been concerned about. I wanted to know if my hip was a real injury or just normal running wear that happens as you build miles. Also, I needed to know how I could handle a faster pace over a longer time.

Recently my hip has bothered me walking around sometimes and I wondering was if my hip was hurt in the same way as last fall which cost me a shot at qualifying for Boston and kept me down for 3-4 months. The original injury seemed to be in late Aug or early Sep. PT didnt fix the problem which led to an MRI and found the real issue a stress fracture. I had been feeling some of the same pain from when I had the stress fracture so I was concerned. I had been making great progress so I was hopeful the pain was just getting used to building up miles again. Yesterday morning I set out aiming for about an 8min/mi avg pace. The first mile was slow and comfortable near 8:40 pace. Then the downhills came and the stride kept feeling better and better. I reached the flat part and stayed a nice comfortable pace, but pushing a little. I was surprised to see my Garmin showing I was consistently in the 7:10/mi range. I thought about trying to back off a little, but decided to see how long I could hold up. Well, I was able to keep the same effort level for a few more miles. The pace slowed a little as I started going up more hills, but I was still staying around and even below 7:30 pace. This is a great sign because I need to run 7:25 miles to BQ. If I was able to handle this pace coming off of a hilly 7 miles yesterday and very few miles (relative to marathon training) then I knew I could reach my goals this fall. I even forgot about the hip until I arrived at home after 8+ miles. I managed to keep sub 8 pace even up hills that are tough at the end of the run. Here is the chart from runningahead.com, I added .01 to the first mile because the GPS didnt pick up for first bit of the run. The Avg HR showed a nice progression so I know the effort level was pretty consistent. The last 1.75 miles were mostly uphill with some flat sections. In the flat sections I stayed in 7:20 range and I pushed the uphills.

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Type Distance Time Total Time Pace Avg HR Max HR
Interval 1.01 Mi 8:37.23 8:37.23 8:33 138 155
Interval 1 Mi 7:35.98 16:13.21 7:36 144 149
Interval 1 Mi 7:30.28 23:43.49 7:31 150 157
Interval 1 Mi 7:11.57 30:55.06 7:12 162 167
Interval 1 Mi 7:19.27 38:14.33 7:20 166 169
Interval 1 Mi 7:29.09 45:43.42 7:30 168 171
Interval 1 Mi 7:35.92 53:19.34 7:36 169 172
Interval 1 Mi 7:57.53 1:01:16.87 7:58 170 173
Interval .35 Mi 2:43.55 1:04:00.42 7:48 171 174


I woke up this morning with my legs feeling better than they have in months. Quads feel a little stiff from the harder effort, but not bad at all. This means to me that I wasnt at my limit as far as intensity is concerned. I have to stay out of the red line :) Hip feels ok too. I think continuing to run has helped it get stronger. Couple that will good stretching before and especially after and I'm setting myself up for a good summer.

I actually ran the same route exactly 2 years ago at the same avg HR, but 20 sec/ mi slower. Now the weather was a lot warmer that day which contributed to the slower pace, but I know I'm in similar shape to 2 years ago at this time. That fall I set my marathon PR and I plan on beating that this fall.
 

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QUOTE (underhandtofirst @ Apr 15 2010, 09:56 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2899298
I woke up this morning with my legs feeling better than they have in months. Quads feel a little stiff from the harder effort, but not bad at all. This means to me that I wasnt at my limit as far as intensity is concerned. I have to stay out of the red line :) Hip feels ok too. I think continuing to run has helped it get stronger. Couple that will good stretching before and especially after and I'm setting myself up for a good summer.

I actually ran the same route exactly 2 years ago at the same avg HR, but 20 sec/ mi slower. Now the weather was a lot warmer that day which contributed to the slower pace, but I know I'm in similar shape to 2 years ago at this time. That fall I set my marathon PR and I plan on beating that this fall.


Awesome - I bet you were pumped to get that workout out of the way - funny how mental physical injuries can become.

Any spring/early summer tune up races planned?
 

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QUOTE (BleacherFan @ Apr 15 2010, 06:14 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2900514
Awesome - I bet you were pumped to get that workout out of the way - funny how mental physical injuries can become.

Any spring/early summer tune up races planned?


No races planned. I had considered a 10k in May (Westford), but the timing didnt work out. I'll do another time trial at home probably within 4-6 weeks.
 

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Well, this marathon isn't going to run itself.

I am off to Boston early tomorrow to pick up my race pack, bib number and chip. Spending the weekend in Boston with family to get ready for the big day.

I am very excited for the race, despite having a pretty bad pre-race week with the legs. But lots of rest, water and the right diet should have me ready for Monday. It won't be fast and it may not be pretty, but I am determined to make my first marathon a success. I have had a rough training period with multiple little injuries and aches and pains that have interrupted training, but I have a fair number of miles in the legs so I think I can make it. Most importantly, I have a very positive attitude, a race plan and a great support team. Given the weather forecast (cold) and sore calves, it appears that I will be wearing shoes.

The Dana-Farber experience has been excellent. I hit my goal of raising $10,000 for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, and the team's training and race support is tremendous.

For those of you with the time and the inclination, you can follow the race on baa.org. The search function will be active on race day and the process of how to search should be clear. For the search, you will need to enter my bib number for the race, which is 22739. The web site will give splits about every 3 miles. I am in the second start corral (10:30), but don't expect me to set your computers on fire with my splits.

I'll say hello to Valerie Bertinelli for all of you.
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 16 2010, 03:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2902194
Well, this marathon isn't going to run itself.

I am off to Boston early tomorrow to pick up my race pack, bib number and chip. Spending the weekend in Boston with family to get ready for the big day.



Congrats on completing your fundraising goal and finishing your training. Both awesome accomplishments for sure. Your training through injuries has been inspiring to follow. I'll be rooting for you online Monday.
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 16 2010, 03:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2902194
Well, this marathon isn't going to run itself.

I am off to Boston early tomorrow to pick up my race pack, bib number and chip. Spending the weekend in Boston with family to get ready for the big day.

I am very excited for the race, despite having a pretty bad pre-race week with the legs. But lots of rest, water and the right diet should have me ready for Monday. It won't be fast and it may not be pretty, but I am determined to make my first marathon a success. I have had a rough training period with multiple little injuries and aches and pains that have interrupted training, but I have a fair number of miles in the legs so I think I can make it. Most importantly, I have a very positive attitude, a race plan and a great support team. Given the weather forecast (cold) and sore calves, it appears that I will be wearing shoes.

The Dana-Farber experience has been excellent. I hit my goal of raising $10,000 for the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute, and the team's training and race support is tremendous.

For those of you with the time and the inclination, you can follow the race on baa.org. The search function will be active on race day and the process of how to search should be clear. For the search, you will need to enter my bib number for the race, which is 22739. The web site will give splits about every 3 miles. I am in the second start corral (10:30), but don't expect me to set your computers on fire with my splits.

I'll say hello to Valerie Bertinelli for all of you.


Good luck. Last I checked Monday could be high 40s/low 50s which might be perfect weather if there is little to no wind. Looking forward to hearing about your experience next week.
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 16 2010, 03:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2902194
Well, this marathon isn't going to run itself.

I am off to Boston early tomorrow to pick up my race pack, bib number and chip. Spending the weekend in Boston with family to get ready for the big day.

I am very excited for the race, despite having a pretty bad pre-race week with the legs. But lots of rest, water and the right diet should have me ready for Monday. It won't be fast and it may not be pretty, but I am determined to make my first marathon a success. I have had a rough training period with multiple little injuries and aches and pains that have interrupted training, but I have a fair number of miles in the legs so I think I can make it.


Some ramblings from me:

* Don't let the pre-race taper stuff get to you. The hay is in the barn and you are ready to go. Nothing you do between now and then will make or break your race day. Noone is 100% at the point - sorta like the NFL playoffs

* Carbo load Saturday night - not Sunday - and DON'T go to the Pasta dinner - have a nice meal out with your family (sounds like you'll be doing this)

* Stay conservative early on and especially during Wellesley - it is SO hard to keep everything in check the first half of the race because the fan support is unreal. If you're feeling like crap heading over 128 (13-14m) you are gonna be in the hurt tank when you really hit the hills. If you can, dial it in a little bit at this point.

* Have fun! and enjoy the post race beers - you've earned it

Good luck and may the wind be coming from the West!
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 16 2010, 03:52 PM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2902194
For those of you with the time and the inclination, you can follow the race on baa.org. The search function will be active on race day and the process of how to search should be clear. For the search, you will need to enter my bib number for the race, which is 22739. The web site will give splits about every 3 miles. I am in the second start corral (10:30), but don't expect me to set your computers on fire with my splits.

I'll say hello to Valerie Bertinelli for all of you.



Awesome job today! Hope you took it all in - for me it was a blur that first time. Can't wait for a nice race recap.

Dave
 

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What an amazing experience, literally from start to finish. There are others who run better and faster, but no one enjoyed that more than I. I was concerned going in that my legs may not have all 26.2 in them, but most of those concerns evaporated when I arrived at the Park Street station to meet up with my brother- and sister-in-law to get on the bus for Hopkinton. 25,000+ excited runners chattering about the race, piling on the buses - the energy was tremendous. I felt from that moment on that if everyone else here is going to finish, then so am I. My training was a bit lacking, but my will was strong.

The day, of course, was absolutely perfect - cool, light wind, sunny. Hopkinton was bursting at the seams with runners, volunteers, officials, police, buses, spectators, vendors, all packed together on the tiny main drag. I was in the second start wave with the Dana-Farber team (which was in itself an amazing experience), in corral 22. We started on time, and it took us eight minutes to reach the start. I hit the Garmin as I stepped across the line, and we were off. The crowd in Hopkinton was wonderful - thousands of people lining the streets yelling endless encouragement, even to us back-markers. I must have given a thousand high-fives to outstretched hands along the way, a thrill in itself.

As we got underway, runners began stripping off layers of clothing and leaving them by the roadside. Coats, jackets, hats, gloves, shorts, sweatpants, etc. - enough to fill a Goodwill store, discarded by runners who overdressed. (And as I understand, the BAA does in fact collect these clothes and give them to charity). Then everyone who over-hydrated began peeling off into the woods to relieve themselves wherever they could. And all the time, off in the distance, an endless sea of bobbing heads as far as you could see, crowds lining the way. We passed a biker bar in I think Ashland with all the bikers drinking and smoking, cheering us on. Pretty funny hearing Carla the biker chick yelling "You got this!" while drinking a beer. The first ten miles were a lot of fun. I maintained a comfortable pace of about 10:30-10:45 for the first ten and felt great every step of the way. My legs were loose, I ate and drank the right amount, and managed to hold my pace back at that level even though I felt I could go faster. I had a plan and I knew if I broke that plan and went too fast, I would be in real trouble later. I took a bathroom break at about mile 10.5, got back on the road, and then it seemed like the work started. I don't know if it was the stopping or the changing topography or what, but miles 10-15 were noticeably harder than 1-10. But I still felt great and my legs were responding well. I had a few minor twinges in my calves and knees, but I figured that is normal and nothing really hurt yet.

Then I got to Newton.

I had thought, based on the advice from my brother-in-law (who has run Boston 19 times) that the thing to be concerned about in Newton was the uphill part. Little did I know that my training was, in fact, ideal for uphill sections but COMPLETELY USELESS for running downhill. Right after mile 15 there are some downhill sections, followed by a really nasty slope right before Newton-Wellesley Hospital, that just absolutely sucked the life out of my legs. Maybe it was my technique, my gait, or something else, but running down the Newton hills just about wiped me out, especially the huge one at the end of mile 15. I remember thinking at about this time, "Good lord, this is hard."

Lucky planning stationed my extraordinary family at the bottom of that hill, where they greeted me with hugs and kisses and a brief respite from the pounding. The energy infusion from a well-timed hug and kiss from my wife and kids was a life-saver ("We love you honey. Only ten more miles to go!" Gasp.). So I soldiered on, but my legs were starting to hurt a lot. The most relief I got was, oddly, on the uphill sections of the Newton hills. I cruised up all of them with relative ease, passing a lot of people who seemed to do better on the downhills. Had one minor calf cramp on Heartbreak Hill that I ran through, but otherwise was hoping there were more ups than downs the rest of the way. But, of course, there came the downhill portion of Heartbreak at miles 21-22, and by the time I hit 23, my legs were resisting all attempts to make them fire the muscles needed to keep up a running pace. A bit disappointed that I wouldn't hit my goal of running all 26.2 miles, I faced facts and used most of miles 24 and 25 at a walking pace to take on as much fuel and minerals as I could, because there was no way on earth that I was not going to run the last mile-and-a-half of the Boston Marathon. The race was going to end for me one way or another, and I was absolutely determined to make it my way, by running past Fenway, down Comm Ave and down Boylston in front of the screaming crowd.

So I did. Approaching 25, I picked it up and started running again, at a surprisingly decent pace given how my legs felt. Ran across the bridge up that little hill, all the while people lining the route assuring me I could do it. Got the view of downtown, and broke into a big smile. I saw where I was going, and was going to make it at a run. Went down through Kenmore, nodded to Fenway. Turned onto Hereford, the growing crowd propelling me along. Made the left onto Boylston, the finish line in sight. Looked up at the sky, the people, the buildings, everything, smiling and knowing that I am about to run, to finish, my first marathon, the Boston Marathon. Even though I probably couldn't have physically gone much further, I felt like I could have gone forever at that point. I was far enough away from other runners that they were able to single me out and announce my name as I crossed the line in 5:12.08.

Today my legs are sore, but I feel great. All in all this was one of the most extraordinary experiences of my life. From making the decision to do it last fall, to joining the Dana-Farber team, raising the money, going through the training and the injuries, formulating a pre-race plan and a race plan, then having it all come to fruition in running the Boston Marathon and making it more or less within my time goals and not getting injured in the process, is very meaningful to me. 18 months ago I was fat, indolent, out of work and miserable, living in a place I hated and knowing that I needed to do something else with my life. Yesterday I ran the Boston Marathon. It has been a long and worthy journey, and despite finishing in 21,803rd place, I feel like I won something yesterday, something important. This is the first of, I hope, many marathons and other long-course endurance races for me over the coming years, but yesterday will always be something unique to me.

Thanks to all of you for your kind words, support and advice.

And just for the record, I beat Valerie Bertinelli by two minutes.
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 20 2010, 11:42 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2911688
awesome recap


Now I'm ready to run through a wall to qualify. I have to bookmark this so I can come back and read it during the summer as I train.

You appeared to be in good shape as your 5k splits were almost identical so you were running under control. I did get concerned/bummed that your knees may have quit when they didnt post a 40k split for you. It was over an hour from your 35k split to when your final time was posted. I was hoping to come down an see if you wanted to do another 3 around the river after you finished :)

Your recap reminds me how much of completing a marathon is mental. You are going to feel pain and be most likely be more uncomfortable that you ever have been running, but you have to find a way to fight through it. I give you major props to be able to stay focused and strong out on the course for 5 hours and then finish the race your way and smile. Congrats. I cant wait to go for a run tomorrow!
 

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QUOTE (Kremlin Watcher @ Apr 20 2010, 10:42 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2911688
What an amazing experience, literally from start to finish. There are others who run better and faster, but no one enjoyed that more than I.


Congratulations! I'd kill to run this race someday. Great recap.
 

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Wow Kremlin! Your determination and spirit are inspiring. I've emailed myself your post. I intend to read it the night before I run VCM.

Great finish. Way to stick with it, marathoner.
 

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Kremlin, you are a wonder! Nice work and you made it doubly worthwhile with the charitable angle. Really great stuff. I may have to run home from Europe, so I'll keep your Boston as my inspiration :)

Kudos!

Roland
 

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The downhills are a real killer on the quads. When I lived in North Providence my quads were sore pretty much 24/7 from running all the hills 4-5 times a week.

Awesome job on the marathon...it must have felt amazing to finish. It certainly felt amazing just reading your post.

I've got the Great Wall Marathon coming up in less than 4 weeks and I'm starting to get nervous about all the stairs, which I haven't trained for at all.
 

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Has anyone ever run with the CamelBak RaceBak Hydration Vest? I'm looking for a comfortable way to carry water with me on long runs during marathon training. I live in the city so stashing water bottles somewhere is not an option. Also, I'm not a big fan of carrying cash and stopping at a CVS or something for water. That seems to break my stride and I have trouble getting re-started. This Camelbak vest seems interesting, but I dunno. Maybe it's crap.

Any suggestions?
 

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QUOTE (Mighty Barrett @ Apr 21 2010, 09:33 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2914909
Has anyone ever run with the CamelBak RaceBak Hydration Vest? I'm looking for a comfortable way to carry water with me on long runs during marathon training. I live in the city so stashing water bottles somewhere is not an option. Also, I'm not a big fan of carrying cash and stopping at a CVS or something for water. That seems to break my stride and I have trouble getting re-started. This Camelbak vest seems interesting, but I dunno. Maybe it's crap.

Any suggestions?


I have a water belt made by Nathan for about $30. The bottle carries about 22oz of water. The belt has a small pocket big enough for a key and a cell phone. The bottle is at waist level in back when your running and you barely notice it. I use it on runs from 30 min up to 3 hours.
 

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QUOTE (underhandtofirst @ Apr 21 2010, 09:45 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2914932
I have a water belt made by Nathan for about $30. The bottle carries about 22oz of water. The belt has a small pocket big enough for a key and a cell phone. The bottle is at waist level in back when your running and you barely notice it. I use it on runs from 30 min up to 3 hours.


Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure 22 oz. is enough for me. That's a little over 0.5L and I usually intake at least 1.0L on runs over 1.5 hours. Particularly in the summer... I'm a sweater. I'm most concerned with the added weight. If I carry ~2L, that's like 4+ pounds of weight on my back.
 

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Here's what I use on my long runs.

It's a Nathan's speed belt. It carries 4, 10 oz. flasks. It has two pockets. The front pocket is large enough for keys and a cell phone. The rear pocket is perfect for carrying a few bucks.

My wife used a backpack for a little while. She hated it. Said it was impossible to clean and a better idea in theory than in practice. She also said it made her warm in the summer.

After the first few steps, I barely notice that I'm even wearing the Nathan belt. The four flasks allow me to have some with water and others with my Gu Brew.
 

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QUOTE (Mighty Barrett @ Apr 21 2010, 09:50 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2914939
Thanks for the suggestion. I'm not sure 22 oz. is enough for me. That's a little over 0.5L and I usually intake at least 1.0L on runs over 1.5 hours. Particularly in the summer... I'm a sweater. I'm most concerned with the added weight. If I carry ~2L, that's like 4+ pounds of weight on my back.


You wont notice the weight really. After a couple runs it is part of you, especially where it is located around your waist.

Every lb is about 2 sec/mi so you're not adding much. Remember you're drinking the water too, so it gets lighter as you go along.

QUOTE (Trautwein's Degree @ Apr 21 2010, 10:12 AM) index.php?act=findpost&pid=2914972
Here's what I use on my long runs.

It's a Nathan's speed belt. It carries 4, 10 oz. flasks. It has two pockets. The front pocket is large enough for keys and a cell phone. The rear pocket is perfect for carrying a few bucks.

My wife used a backpack for a little while. She hated it. Said it was impossible to clean and a better idea in theory than in practice. She also said it made her warm in the summer.

After the first few steps, I barely notice that I'm even wearing the Nathan belt. The four flasks allow me to have some with water and others with my Gu Brew.


This is pretty good, I usually go though 22oz in runs of 12-13 miles. 40oz would be nice, I might have to try that one out

This is what I use

On their website I noticed they have a belt that carries two 22 oz bottles. I think that's if you run in Death Valley in July :)