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6 years/57 million with 26 million guaranteed.
6 years/57 million with 26 million guaranteed.
Sox and Rocks said:Definitely an overpay.
How much cap room does Denver have? They've already spent $15-16 million on Talib and Ward (based on AAV) and are considered the front runners for Ware.
Jeff Van GULLY said:Elway knows Manning has 2-3 years left and is going for it. If they get Ware too?
Frustrating to see as a Pats fan but hard not to respect what Elway has done.
Ward and Talib is such an upgrade for them in the D backfield.
Jeff Van GULLY said:Elway knows Manning has 2-3 years left and is going for it. If they get Ware too?
Frustrating to see as a Pats fan but hard not to respect what Elway has done.
Ward and Talib is such an upgrade for them in the D backfield.
Yeah, a Welker cut has to be coming. Don't see how they can justify his $8 million cap hit with little to no money left and other holes to fill, even if only depth.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Probably around zero right now, although the 2014 cap hits for Ward and Talib are almost certainly much less than their AAV.
I wonder whether these moves, plus the signing of backup slot receiver Andre Caldwell, mean a Welker cut. That's their best option for freeing up the space necessary to sign other guys and draft picks.
Pxer said:I didn't imagine this scenario at all the last few weeks. It may be an overpay, but this totally sucks.
Irrational Revis sentiment in 3...2...1...
Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Pretty close to zero right now, although the 2014 cap hits for Ward and Talib are almost certainly much less than their AAV and I think they gained some cap flexibility when Chris Kuper retired.
I wonder whether these moves, plus the signing of backup slot receiver Andre Caldwell, mean a Welker cut. That's their best option for freeing up the space necessary to sign other guys and draft picks.
Extremelty short window they are dealing with it. Fuck it. Why wouldn't you put everything you have into next year in their situation?quint said:In all fairness to Denver, they've never let anything trivial such as a stupid Salary Cap stand in their way before.
That woooshing sound you just heard? That was the joke flying right over your head.SouthernBoSox said:Extremelty short window they are dealing with it. Fuck it. Why wouldn't you put everything you have into next year in their situation?
@JasonLaCanfora: Patriots in a strong position to land Revis now, especially after Talib's deal. Revis wants to be there. Will only take a 5th round pickRGREELEY33 said:There's still a lot of flexibility. Revis pipedream remains alive. . . . .
SemperFidelisSox said:$57 million U.S dollars?
If true, so much for "their salary cap situation sucks." Either that, or they're channeling their team's salary cap management ca. 1998.Denver's window vs. Patriots' long-range approach. There is a significant philosophical difference in the way the Broncos and Patriots build their teams and this move epitomizes it. The Broncos were one of the NFL's most aggressive teams, in terms of free-agent spending, on Day 1 of the 2014 league year. And they may not be done, with former Cowboys pass-rushung stud DeMarcus Ware reportedly set for a visit. Last year, they also poached receiver Wes Welker from the Patriots. Those moves run in contrast with the Patriots' slow-but-steady approach.
That hasn't been mentioned at all yet.Van Everyman said:Either that, or they're channeling their team's salary cap management ca. 1998.
You guys realize that "steal" in the context it was used doesn't really have anything to do with the contract but that he went from one team to their big rival right?bigsid05 said:That is a MASSIVE deal for Talib. Good for him, he wasn't going to get that kind of money from the Pats. Denver isn't 'stealing' anything here.
DrewDawg said:You guys realize that "steal" in the context it was used doesn't really have anything to do with the contract but that he went from one team to their big rival right?
phragle said:
If they are backloading deals like I would imagine they can still have a ton of cap space
See Bill's post-AFC Championship Game comments. I don't think Welker is walking in that door.crystalline said:If Welker gets cut I want him back. That is all.
28 and he'll probably need hip replacement surgery by 30. Obviously Revis would be nice but I'll take DRC at 1/2 to 2/3 the price at this point, perhaps even less. Also what is DEN doing on the OL? That is where they were abused in the SB and while they are getting a stud albeit off injured stud in Clady back haven't they lost a lot of depth there?Dan to Theo to Ben said:Talib just turned 28 last months, 6 years isn't that much. If it's backloaded, they're just bullish on NFL revenues and therefore the cap number increasing over time. It's an overpay, but not a completely ridiculous one.
I'd still rather give a 3rd and a ~50% premium AAV for Revis.