The 2015 49ers: Busted Kap.
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Injury risk is greater to both. No one wants to see a star player hurt on a crappy field because of stubbornmwonow said:
Matt Keller @MattKellerABC7 10m10 minutes ago
#BreakingNews- #49ers Aldon Smith arrested by Santa Clara Police, last night. He was booked into Santa Clara County Jail.
https://twitter.com/MattKellerABC7/status/629657868837474305
#BreakingNews- #49ers Aldon Smith arrested by Santa Clara Police, last night. He was booked into Santa Clara County Jail.
https://twitter.com/MattKellerABC7/status/629657868837474305
Santa Clara Police @SantaClaraPD 2m2 minutes ago
From the PIO: SCPD arrested Aldon Smith last night for Hit&Run, DUI, and vandalism. A press release will be provided later this morning.
From the PIO: SCPD arrested Aldon Smith last night for Hit&Run, DUI, and vandalism. A press release will be provided later this morning.
This is serious of course, but damn the 49ers fans can't catch a break.
Owner and succesful coach break up
Good chunk of starting defense ups and retires.
One of the better remaining players is this guy that keeps getting in trouble.
Field sucks ass (and is now probably a longer commute for some fans)
At this point, you are waiting for the deteriorating field to take out a star player with a torn ACL.
If Tomsula gets this team to .500 he pretty much deserves COY.
Owner and succesful coach break up
Good chunk of starting defense ups and retires.
One of the better remaining players is this guy that keeps getting in trouble.
Field sucks ass (and is now probably a longer commute for some fans)
At this point, you are waiting for the deteriorating field to take out a star player with a torn ACL.
If Tomsula gets this team to .500 he pretty much deserves COY.
They also have a QB that might end up being just a perpetual tease. Too much promise to walk away from, but not enough dependency to get you to the promise land. Not a good place to be in a QB driven league. At least they signed him to a very team friendly deal, so they have have going for them.
Apparently no possession of gun though. Really, this guy is a mental case. He could have been a 49er franchise sack artist like Fred Dean, or another mental case, Charles Haley.Corsi said:
Should the 49ers decide to release Smith, he would stand to lose a lot of money. He is currently on a one year contract worth $9.754 million that was restructured during the offseason to convert his pay into a series of non-guaranteed roster bonuses and a smaller base salary. The restructuring was essentially a bet Smith made on himself that he would stay out of trouble.
http://www.sbnation.com/2015/8/7/9115947/aldon-smith-arrest-49ers
I'm feeling really, really good about my decision not to purchase season tickets a couple years ago.
Thank god I've gotten into soccer, because it's going to be a long fall and winter with just these guys for company.
Thank god I've gotten into soccer, because it's going to be a long fall and winter with just these guys for company.
They have to drop him then. He will probably be suspended for a lengthy amount of time anyway, so they might as well save the moneyAl Zarilla said:
Janine De la Vega @JanineKTVU 21m21 minutes ago
#49er #AldonSmith looked somber leaving jail. He told me "it wasn't a DUI...the truth will come out." #KTVU
#49er #AldonSmith looked somber leaving jail. He told me "it wasn't a DUI...the truth will come out." #KTVU
His most recent was an 8 game or so suspension right?
So definitely repeat offender since it hasn't been more than 7 years (Patriots standard)
He's got to be looking for a year or more suspension. He had to have been in the treatment program which escalates it even more.
He also needs to get serious help. Can't get out of his own way. Even w/out DUI (his claim) still looking at hit and run.
So definitely repeat offender since it hasn't been more than 7 years (Patriots standard)
He's got to be looking for a year or more suspension. He had to have been in the treatment program which escalates it even more.
He also needs to get serious help. Can't get out of his own way. Even w/out DUI (his claim) still looking at hit and run.
Seems like the incident revolves around something with a neighbor? Sounds like some weird type of DUI scenario that he thinks really isn't an actual DUI. Maybe he clipped a neighbor with his golf cart but thinks if he was driving that drunk it's not technically dui?? Either way this dude has issues and this is probably it. From greatness to heinous this team.
If Aldon Smith gets cuts, the 49ers will only have six of the 22 offensive and defensive players that started the Super Bowl 2+ years ago. On defense, only Navorro Bowman and Ahmad Brooks remain. That Super Bowl team wasn't even that old either.
Ashok Moore @AshokaESPN 59s59 seconds ago
This just in from @JimTrotter_NFL : the 49ers will cut Aldon Smith according to a team source.
This just in from @JimTrotter_NFL : the 49ers will cut Aldon Smith according to a team source.
soxhop411 said:
Interesting to know how much time elapsed between 'hit another vehicle' and 'Smith came back to talk to the officers' in this one. Could he have gotten drunk in the interim? If so, this whole thing looks very different.
Of course, he's a proven knucklehead so can't exactly give him the benefit of the doubt...
So the vandalism is potentially a ding to someone's door? Or it's a big ass dent given he is large and strong but I'm most curious to see how that charge plays out because I think he's screwed on this regardless.
He should walk on dui. Cops will have a hard time placing him in car while under the influence or saw him drive the car. He can easily claim drinks in interim lapsed time.
Legally, he might skate on the technicalities of the case. His bigger concern, though, is a lengthy nfl suspension and other teams staying away from him. From that standpoint, the damage may already be done
Sox and Rocks said:
I concur. He already served 9 games last season for similar vehicular control issues and will almost certainly miss the entire 2015 season with the next step up on the discipline ladder.
@DonteStallworth - the former Pats WR, and drunk driver - has been very good to follow on this. Basically, kid needs help and football isn't helping.
That struck me too. Hopefully it's not just lip service and they actually follow through, because the man needs some help.JCizzle said:
So, after a disaster of an off-season, are there any reasons to be optimistic about this team?
- They had some big names retire/leave/get cut, but a lot of those guys didn't make contributions as large as their names last year. Borland started only 8 games; Willis only 6, Anthony Davis 7, Aldon Smith 6. Justin Smith is the biggest loss here, having started every game.
- In a similar vein, they had absolutely atrocious injury luck, especially on defense, that is unlikely to repeat. SF was 28th in FootballOutsider's Adjusted Games Lost, and 31st on defense. By the end of the season, they were running out 3rd stringers at several positions because so many guys were hurt. Injuries tend to regress toward the mean, and they should be healthier this year.
- The defense managed to still be very good despite the injuries, finishing 5th in DVOA. There are some indicators suggesting the defense may regress (they had a very high takeaway rate last year, and defensive performance tends to less stable year-to-year), but that regression may be offset by better health. There are still a bunch of really good players on this defense. Antoine Bethea/Eric Reid was one of the league's best safety tandems last year. Even without Justin Smith and Ray MacDonald, the return to health of Glenn Dorsey and Ian Williams, the signing of Darnell Dockett, and the development of Quinton Dial and Tank Carradine gives them a solid DL rotation. If Navarro Bowman can make a complete return from his horrific knee injury, that offsets the loss of Willis/Borland -- Bowman was the league's best MLB before getting hurt. Without Aldon Smith they lack a dominant edge rusher, but Ahmad Brooks and Michael Wilhoite + a healthy Bowman are a good LB core, and Aaron Lynch showed pass rush flashes in limited time last year.
- While saying goodbye to Frank Gore was tough, the history of RBs at age 32 isn't good, and Carlos Hyde has looked impressive in limited touches. They'll miss Gore's personality and leadership, but probably not his production. Switching to a zone rather than power scheme also compliments Hyde's strengths.
- There should be a whole lot less drama this season. There's no question the coach/front office infighting negatively impacted the team last year, and there should be a lot less of that nonsense this year. The bigger troublemakers (Aldon Smith, Macdonald) are gone, and so there should be fewer distractions on that front as well. How big a difference this stuff makes, I don't know, but it can only be positive.
- Besides the drama, some of the stories about Harbaugh wearing out his tenure with the players and burning them out may have actually been true. Meanwhile, Tomsula seems really well liked and respected by just about everyone in the locker room. The team will at least play hard for him.
- They solved one of their biggest weaknesses on offense by signing Torrey Smith, giving them the true deep threat they haven't had since Randy Moss's one-year tenure (and he was used mostly as a decoy). That should limit teams from sitting on the shorter route combos that became such a problem last season. Adding Reggie Bush also gives them a backfield receiving dimension they didn't have in the past.
The two big personnel weaknesses right now are at CB and OL. They don't have much depth at CB, having seen both of last year's starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver, leave in free agency. Tramaine Brock and Shareece Wright are the likely starters, with 2014 1st round pick Jimmie Ward as the nickel back, and a bunch of rookies/street free agents behind them. They will be dependent on their excellent safeties and linebackers to cover up weaknesses in outside coverage.
Just three years ago, SF had the league's best offensive line. Not anymore. From the group that went to the Super Bowl, only Joe Staley and Alex Boone are left. Staley is still a premier LT, while Boone has shifted from RG to LG to replace Mike Iupati, who left in free agency. Joe Looney is the now the center, while Marcus Martin, who as a rookie played center last year after the first two centers on the depth chart got hurt, has shifted from C to RG with Boone's switch. With Anthony Davis' retirement/sabbatical, the RT is now Erik Pears, a cheap FA signed from Buffalo, where he was not very good. The left side of the line is a strength, but the right side of the line is a real weakness. With the change in coordinators, the team has shifted from a power-based blocking scheme to a zone-based scheme (although under Harbaugh they used some of both, most notably zone options in 2012, power was their bread and butter).
Then there's Kaepernick. Nobody really knows what to expect from him this year. Will he be the guy who lit up the league in 2012? The guy who, while less explosive, was an above-average starter in 2013? Or will he be as bad as he was last year? There might not be a QB who has a wider range of potential non-injury performance than Kaepernick -- I could see him making a big leap forward to become a consistent top 10 QB, I could see him getting found out even more and being no better than replacement level, and I could see everything in between.
So there's some potential here: if the defense can remain an above-average unit, if the OL can gel, and if with a more diverse set of weapons Kaepernick can improve on last year's dismal performance, this could still be a pretty good team. The days of SF being a top championship contender are over, but I also don't buy a lot of the doom-and-gloom 4-12ish predictions I've seen.
- They had some big names retire/leave/get cut, but a lot of those guys didn't make contributions as large as their names last year. Borland started only 8 games; Willis only 6, Anthony Davis 7, Aldon Smith 6. Justin Smith is the biggest loss here, having started every game.
- In a similar vein, they had absolutely atrocious injury luck, especially on defense, that is unlikely to repeat. SF was 28th in FootballOutsider's Adjusted Games Lost, and 31st on defense. By the end of the season, they were running out 3rd stringers at several positions because so many guys were hurt. Injuries tend to regress toward the mean, and they should be healthier this year.
- The defense managed to still be very good despite the injuries, finishing 5th in DVOA. There are some indicators suggesting the defense may regress (they had a very high takeaway rate last year, and defensive performance tends to less stable year-to-year), but that regression may be offset by better health. There are still a bunch of really good players on this defense. Antoine Bethea/Eric Reid was one of the league's best safety tandems last year. Even without Justin Smith and Ray MacDonald, the return to health of Glenn Dorsey and Ian Williams, the signing of Darnell Dockett, and the development of Quinton Dial and Tank Carradine gives them a solid DL rotation. If Navarro Bowman can make a complete return from his horrific knee injury, that offsets the loss of Willis/Borland -- Bowman was the league's best MLB before getting hurt. Without Aldon Smith they lack a dominant edge rusher, but Ahmad Brooks and Michael Wilhoite + a healthy Bowman are a good LB core, and Aaron Lynch showed pass rush flashes in limited time last year.
- While saying goodbye to Frank Gore was tough, the history of RBs at age 32 isn't good, and Carlos Hyde has looked impressive in limited touches. They'll miss Gore's personality and leadership, but probably not his production. Switching to a zone rather than power scheme also compliments Hyde's strengths.
- There should be a whole lot less drama this season. There's no question the coach/front office infighting negatively impacted the team last year, and there should be a lot less of that nonsense this year. The bigger troublemakers (Aldon Smith, Macdonald) are gone, and so there should be fewer distractions on that front as well. How big a difference this stuff makes, I don't know, but it can only be positive.
- Besides the drama, some of the stories about Harbaugh wearing out his tenure with the players and burning them out may have actually been true. Meanwhile, Tomsula seems really well liked and respected by just about everyone in the locker room. The team will at least play hard for him.
- They solved one of their biggest weaknesses on offense by signing Torrey Smith, giving them the true deep threat they haven't had since Randy Moss's one-year tenure (and he was used mostly as a decoy). That should limit teams from sitting on the shorter route combos that became such a problem last season. Adding Reggie Bush also gives them a backfield receiving dimension they didn't have in the past.
The two big personnel weaknesses right now are at CB and OL. They don't have much depth at CB, having seen both of last year's starters, Perrish Cox and Chris Culliver, leave in free agency. Tramaine Brock and Shareece Wright are the likely starters, with 2014 1st round pick Jimmie Ward as the nickel back, and a bunch of rookies/street free agents behind them. They will be dependent on their excellent safeties and linebackers to cover up weaknesses in outside coverage.
Just three years ago, SF had the league's best offensive line. Not anymore. From the group that went to the Super Bowl, only Joe Staley and Alex Boone are left. Staley is still a premier LT, while Boone has shifted from RG to LG to replace Mike Iupati, who left in free agency. Joe Looney is the now the center, while Marcus Martin, who as a rookie played center last year after the first two centers on the depth chart got hurt, has shifted from C to RG with Boone's switch. With Anthony Davis' retirement/sabbatical, the RT is now Erik Pears, a cheap FA signed from Buffalo, where he was not very good. The left side of the line is a strength, but the right side of the line is a real weakness. With the change in coordinators, the team has shifted from a power-based blocking scheme to a zone-based scheme (although under Harbaugh they used some of both, most notably zone options in 2012, power was their bread and butter).
Then there's Kaepernick. Nobody really knows what to expect from him this year. Will he be the guy who lit up the league in 2012? The guy who, while less explosive, was an above-average starter in 2013? Or will he be as bad as he was last year? There might not be a QB who has a wider range of potential non-injury performance than Kaepernick -- I could see him making a big leap forward to become a consistent top 10 QB, I could see him getting found out even more and being no better than replacement level, and I could see everything in between.
So there's some potential here: if the defense can remain an above-average unit, if the OL can gel, and if with a more diverse set of weapons Kaepernick can improve on last year's dismal performance, this could still be a pretty good team. The days of SF being a top championship contender are over, but I also don't buy a lot of the doom-and-gloom 4-12ish predictions I've seen.
Their schedule is pretty brutal playing in the NFC West (no soft spots) and facing the AFC North (CLE only soft spot) and NFC North (CHI only soft spot) this year. I don't see them going 4-12 but a winning record would surprise me given that lineup of opponents.
San Francisco 49ers @49ers 2m2 minutes ago
49ers WR Jerome Simpson has been suspended for 6 games by the NFL.
49ers WR Jerome Simpson has been suspended for 6 games by the NFL.
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Hayne has certainly been the most fun story of a Niners preseason that badly needed something to be optimistic about. After two games, he's averaging 21.6 yards on five punt returns, and 9 yards per rush on 13 carries. He has a great burst and is extremely elusive in the open field. There are still questions about his ability to run between the tackles in tight spaces and block in pass protection. But while I thought it was something of a long shot for him to make the team a few weeks ago, I think his special teams value alone might earn him a roster spot. He's probably competing with rookie 4th round pick Mike Davis and oft-injured Kendall Hunter for a 4th running back spot (Carlos Hyde and Reggie Bush have the first two spots, and Bruce Miller has the starting FB berth). Last year I think the team only carried 3 RBs most of the season (Gore, Hyde, and Miller, while Hunter was on IR); if Hayne makes the team as a punt returner, it may come at the expense of a WR or TE.
steveluck7 said:
Hayne: "As soon as I came off, the boys were into me, said I had to pay a fine and what not. I actually saw the replay and he actually grabbed my jersey, so I have to tighten the jersey a little bit."
Yikes:
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wow. I have never seen anything like this offseason. Wow
The NFL it's FANTASTIC. It would really really help this pretending to care about domestic abuse if teams remotely hesitated to pick up players who are accused of multiple domestic assaults and then rape.
The NFL it's FANTASTIC. It would really really help this pretending to care about domestic abuse if teams remotely hesitated to pick up players who are accused of multiple domestic assaults and then rape.
JohnnyK said:
True... The media has misjudged all the 49ers offseason issues. The D is going to be really good still. But the retirement of Davis killed their OL. The line will be what sinks the niners this year.
When the mayor was assassinated in 1978, the Niners were so bad the GM barricaded himself in his office, thinking he was next. That's how bad this year is.
