The Michael McCorkle "Mac" Jones Thread

lexrageorge

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I get letting your coaches leave for promotions but wouldn’t they all have received promotions in New England due to McDaniels’ departure? I mean, even OC in NE is probably a bigger promotion than OC in Vegas because McDaniels would still be the play caller.
I assume BB wasn't considering Lombardi for the Pats OC job. As noted, he did not have to call plays for Las Vegas last season.

Bricillo is an interesting one, as he essentially took the same role (OL coach) with the Raiders. Bo Hardegree also took what appears to be a lateral move, but my guess is that he was given greater responsibilities as the Raiders QB coach.
 
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I assume BB wasn't considering Lombardi for the Pats OC job. As noted, he did not have to call plays for Las Vegas last season.

Bricillo is an interesting one, as he essentially took the same role (OL coach) with the Raiders. Bo Hardegree also took what appears to be a lateral move, but my guess is that he was given greater responsibilities as the Raiders QB coach.
They may also just like working with Josh. He’s probably been their direct mentor most of the time.
 

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It's a pretty common refrain on this board that they should move on from Jones is he's not a top 5-10 QB any maybe the Pats are the outlier on this but I've got to say teams that have a steady starter in that 10-20 range--your Cousins, your fitzpatricks, your Daltons and Flaccos, Alex Smiths and Matt Cassells-tend to hold onto those players. Yeah Mahomes makes it a lot easier to be a consistent winning team, but there's not surer way to lose than to play a a Jacoby Brissett or Zach Wilson.
This is because coaches and GMs are usually trying to avoid getting fired. If you have a Cousins on a big long contract you will probably be saved from a <6 win season that would get you canned and occasionally you can put enough around him to make a playoff run. Fans will always have some interest because you have a shot and because of that the owner will be happy. But that's what we call QB purgatory because you're going to need everything to go perfect (more than usual) to win the big one.

The other thing that is abnormal is that there are three clearly elite QBs ahead of Mac in the same conference and then another 3 who could be close to that, heck even 4 if Tua can get and stay healthy, and all of them are 27 or younger.

It will be a huge decision whether or not to give Mac a second contract. But, they will have another year to evaluate him with a hopefully good coaching situation. I'm fine if they take someone they like late in the draft, but they don't have the draft capital to get one of the top QBs this year anyway so there isn't much of a decision to be made yet.
 

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The look on Brown's face when being asked the questions about Mac is priceless. And, man, he's a big dude.
 

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The look on Brown's face when being asked the questions about Mac is priceless. And, man, he's a big dude.
Very thoughtful answer, though, considering that it looks like he was ambushed (I dont mean that pejoratively here) while waiting at an airport.
 

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So it isn't official yet, but good sources saying Daniel Jones is closing in on a deal with NYG that will pay him $40M+ in AAV.
Really puts a point on why this is such a make or break year for Mac. This is the last year before the 5th year option has to be decided on, and it's the year you're really deciding... "do I see myself giving this guy a minimum of $40M a year (likely more) to be my starting QB." If the answer is no you're looking for that guy.
 

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So it isn't official yet, but good sources saying Daniel Jones is closing in on a deal with NYG that will pay him $40M+ in AAV.
Really puts a point on why this is such a make or break year for Mac. This is the last year before the 5th year option has to be decided on, and it's the year you're really deciding... "do I see myself giving this guy a minimum of $40M a year (likely more) to be my starting QB." If the answer is no you're looking for that guy.
Does the QB market almost make it more of an easy decision to just pull the trigger on the 5th year salary? What would that be, low-mid 20s?
 

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Does the QB market almost make it more of an easy decision to just pull the trigger on the 5th year salary? What would that be, low-mid 20s?
Maybe? If you don't think he's your guy, your decision on exercising might be more about what it does for trade value, and where you DO think you're going to find your next QB.
I think 5th year option for his class will likely be mid 20s assuming he doesn't make a pro-bowl. It was $23.2 or so this year, and it will go up.

Edit- the question though would be... not a lot of teams looking to pay in the 20s for their QB... they either want a $40M a year guy or a rookie deal.
 

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You basically don't want a QB playing on that fifth year option--it's not a cap friendly number (just a pretty big salary all in one year). You basically exercise it and then structure around it I think
 

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It'd be over 30 million considering he's made a Pro Bowl. That tier of 5th year option for QBs this season amounts to a 29.5 million number.
Nah, it's only people who get in on the original ballot. The fake, 15th alternate pro-bowlers don't count.