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"(About UFC buying Strikeforce) Honestly, I don't understand this whole thing. I'm way too busy training. It's hard for me to understand what's going on. But I knew there was a reason why I never strapped that belt around my waist. Whatever, champion, whatever. (Paul Daley) can have the belt. I'm fighting for money."

"I don't feel like a champion right now that the UFC bought this organization. I don't understand all that. I thought we were competing with the UFC. I thought my belt was potentially just as important as the UFC belt and we had the best fighters here (in Strikeforce); more technical martial artists and stand-up fighters."

"But now this is all about going to the UFC so I don't care about the Strikeforce belt. There was a reason why I never put that shit on anyways."
 

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Nick Diaz is one bad dude. He can fight Technical, he can brawl and his chin is made of steel. Daley was getting crushed by Diaz' body shots .
 

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What's up for Gilbert Melendez, now? Assuming the UFC absorbs SF's top fighters and uses SF as a developmental league, GM should be in line to challenge for the title soon, right? After the fight, though, Scott Coker talked about him fighting the winner of Wilcox and someone else here:
http://www.mmafighting.com/2011/04/10/scott-coker-discusses-diaz-vs-daley-results-whats-next-for-gi/

I have to think he gets a shot at some of the top UFC lightweights soon.
 

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I heard rumors about this last week, but I didn't hear it confirmed until now. Dan Henderson and Fedor agreed to fight this summer in SF. Link

Regardless of both fighters being past their prime, this should be an interesting fight.
 

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Recently Andrew Mahlmann, A writer for MMA Bleacher Report did a ranking of who he thinks the Top 50 fighters currently are. I disagree with most of his selections but, I bolded the ones that I think are completely nuts. I wanted to post it for discussion. Josh Koscheck ahead of Hendo,Condit,Fedor and Carwin? Machida in the top 30? Sonnen hasn't even fought in two years and he's #18. I definately agree with the top 10 but,I may put BJ Penn in Cruz' spot. I'm suprised Manny Gamburyan even cracked the top 50....let alone #38 . IMO the worst pick of all is Nick Diaz. Having him at #36 makes me laugh.

50.Michihiro Omigawa 49.Paul Daley 48.Frank Mir 47. Diego Nunes 46.Carlos Condit 45.Forrest Griffin 44.Vitor Belfor 43.Fedor 42.Shane Carwin 41.Anthony Pettis 40.Miguel Torres 39.Manny Gamburyan 38.Mark Hominick 37.Kenny Florian 36.Nick Diaz 35.Jim Miller 34.Hendo 33.Brian Bowles 32.Damian Maia 31.Josh Koscheck 30.Ranaldo Souza 29.Lyoto Machida 28.Rampage 27.Antonio Silva 26.Nate Marquardt 25.Thiago Alves 24.Alistair Overeem 23. Fabricio Werdum 22. Joseph Benavedez 21.Chad Mendes 20.Shinya Aoki 19.Brock Lesnar 18.Chael Sonnen 17.Rashad Evans 16.Yushin Okami 15.Junior Dos Santos 14.Sho-gun 13.Urijah Faber 12.B.J Penn 11.John Fitch 10.Gray Maynard 9.Gilbert Melendez 8.Jake Shields 7.Dominick Cruz 6.Jon Jones 5. Cain Velasquez 4.Frankie Edgar 3.Jose Aldo 2.GSP
1.Anderson silva
Edit- Wow,he doesn't even have Eddie Alverez on the list. No love for Bellator.
 

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MMAJunkie.com reported today that former UFC middleweight contender Nate "The Great" Marquardt will be making his welterweight debut against super-sized welterweight fighter Anthony "Rumble" Johnson.

The two will be doing battle on June 26 for UFC on Versus 4 in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

I'd hate to have to pick this one. Should be a great fight/wrestling match.
 

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Or they both have trouble cutting weight and it turns into a gasfest. Those guys are already pretty huge for their weight classes.
 

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Bones is pulling out of the fight with Rashad to have a "longstanding issue with his hand addressed." According to the article, the injury has no effect on his striking or grappling, but it's been lingering for a while, and he wants to get it taken care of. I'm sure Rashad Evans will take the high road when discussing this with the press. Phil Davis will replace him. Link

Awesome opportunity for Phil Davis, but Rashad Evans sitting out for a shot at the title has come back to bite him in the ass. He hasn't fought since May of last year, and he'll take on Davis in Davis' home state for a shot at Jones when he returns to action. Horrible year for Rashad.
 

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Bones is pulling out of the fight with Rashad to have a "longstanding issue with his hand addressed." Apparently, the injury has no effect on his striking or grappling, but it's been lingering for a while, and he wants to get it taken care of. I'm sure Rashad Evans will take the high road when discussing this with the press. Phil Davis will replace him. Link
Shit, Rashad Evans is jumping for joy over this. Theres no doubt that he doesn't want to fight JJ. It may be mutual.

Does anyone else here believe the GSP/Shields fight will be a mildly boring fight? I hope I'm wrong but I think it's going to be a total ground battle.
 

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I'd be surprised if its a ground battle. My guess is GSP picks Shields apart on his feet and Shields walks away looking like Koscheck and Fitch. Shields has shown he can take a shot, if you can survive Hendo's right hand, you can survive just about anything. But I can't see where he has a significant advantage, or something that he can exploit in GSP's game. GSP wins convincingly and the conversation of "what now?" begins, again.
 

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Shit, Rashad Evans is jumping for joy over this. Theres no doubt that he doesn't want to fight JJ. It may be mutual.

Does anyone else here believe the GSP/Shields fight will be a mildly boring fight? I hope I'm wrong but I think it's going to be a total ground battle.
Evans just recieved a stay of execution. If he didn't realize the only way he was going to beat Machida was by taking him down and holding him there, there is no way he was going to fight smart against Jones. Evans was going to get broken.

And I think the GSP/Sheilds fight will be a ground battle for only a short while. GSP will not stay on the ground and play into Sheild's game. Given the skills these two bring I see the potential for some interesting scrambles and reversals but I'm not forecasting Newton/Sakuraba redux. Ultimately I think Sheilds wears himself out trying to keep GSP down and then gets KO'd/submitted.
 

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I'd be surprised if its a ground battle. My guess is GSP picks Shields apart on his feet and Shields walks away looking like Koscheck and Fitch. Shields has shown he can take a shot, if you can survive Hendo's right hand, you can survive just about anything. But I can't see where he has a significant advantage, or something that he can exploit in GSP's game. GSP wins convincingly and the conversation of "what now?" begins, again.
I don't think Sheilds will be able to hang with GSP for 5 rounds. He was holding on for dear life in the third round against Kampmann. GSP is a machine and the combination of the conditioning gap and the fact that he has little to threaten GSP with will crush Sheild's will and end the fight early. I agree with basically everything else you said, especially about the "what now" phase. I think GSP vs. Silva hype is where things will head.
 

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OTOH...Rashad Evans against Phil Davis has me interested. Both have good wrestling but, Evans takes the fight in round two with his stand up and experience.
 

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Bumpan for awesomesauce.

I got GSP by unanimous decision. Jab, jab, low leg kick all night. Shields comes away with a shiner and a bruised ego.
Jose Aldo by whatever he wants.
Machida and Randy is going to be a clinch war. Machida should come away with a win. I say split.
Brilz GNPs Vlad.
Bocek and Ben Henderson is too tough to call for me.

And Nate Diaz slaps a sub on young Rory!
 

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Welp. This will pretty much keep on happening until GSP retires or gets caught ala Serra. There is no one at 170. And Anderson kills him at 185 so that probably ain't happening.

Great card overall.
 

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Watching the fight on a Spanish feed. The reaction from the announcers on that spinning-back fist was awesome.
 

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Is there any chance Dana White has GSP fight Nick Diaz? if not then there's nothing left for him at 170
He's meeting with Dana this week to, I assume, discuss this as well as his situation as the SF champion. Diaz said he wants to go into professional boxing.
 

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http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6495020
Strikeforce welterweight champion Nick Diaz and former IBF super-middleweight champion Jeff Lacy have agreements in place to box this fall, representatives for both fighters confirmed Friday.

According to a release issued by promoter Don Chargin, Lacy officially signed on to the bout Friday morning. Diaz's manager, Cesar Gracie, told ESPN.com that the 27-year-old mixed martial artist is "tentatively" set to fight Lacy and has signed papers to that effect.

Unless Zuffa offers UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre a fight during same time period, Diaz, who ESPN.com currently ranks as the No. 3 welterweight in MMA, will challenge Lacy.

"Nick's [MMA] contract takes precedence," Gracie said. "That's why we're not out there telling everyone what we're going to do. We're trying to work together with the UFC and not against them. And we're trying to do things the right way."
He's been interested in boxing for a while, but is Diaz trying to force Dana White's hand here?
 

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Silva vs. Okami is official for UFC 134. Link

It looks like Rua may be fighting Forrest then, too.
 

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Okami certainly has the tools to do finish what Chael started. Should be somewhat interesting.
 

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The fight that happened five years ago?

Okami has the best wrestling at 185 now that Chael is gone. Mark Munoz, the guy that gets Anderson's wrestling ready, could not do diddly to Okami when they fought.
 

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The fight that happened five years ago?

Okami has the best wrestling at 185 now that Chael is gone. Mark Munoz, the guy that gets Anderson's wrestling ready, could not do diddly to Okami when they fought.
Yea, the Okami Silva fight.

I guess it doesn't really matter now.
 

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Brock Lesnar is out of his fight with JDS. JDS will now fight Shane Carwin for the number one contender spot.
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Lesnar has diverticulitis again

Dana: Brock has done a bumper-to-bumper of tests ... needs to decide whether he will have surgery. His June 11 bout against JDS is off.

JDS vs. Shane Carwin now headlines UFC 131.

Brock: It's not as serious as last time, it just didn't allow me to train like I needed to train for a No. 1 contender's bout.

Brock: I'm not retiring. This isn't the end of my fight career. I just got to find the right solution to fix this problem.
Edit: Found a link

Big blow for the heavyweight division with Cain already out. 2 of the top 4 heavyweights in the UFC are out of action.
 

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Fuck yes! JDS would have knocked Brock's block off at least Shane can handle himself in the standup.
 

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Brock Lesnar is out of his fight with JDS. JDS will now fight Shane Carwin for the number one contender spot.
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Big blow for the heavyweight division with Cain already out. 2 of the top 4 heavyweights in the UFC are out of action.
That sucks. This shit is career and life threatening. I was looking forward to seeing if he made any improvements in his stand up defense.
 

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"People look at 'Bones' Jones as being like their favorite Power Ranger," Jones told ESPN1100 in Las Vegas. "And their Power Ranger needs to be on because it's Wednesday night. I think people forget that my name is Jonathan Dwight and I'm very human, and I need to make decisions and choices. Sometimes people aren't going to going to get their Power Rangers show when they want it and how they want it."
He's ducking Rashad and coming across as a gigantic douche in the process. I guess Sugar must have really had his way with Jones in training sessions.
 

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A little more perspective... I hadn't realized it was this close last year.

While Monday’s lopsided response was much more favorable than last year’s 32-26 vote, just like in June of 2010, the bill now gets passed along to the New York State Assembly for another imperative ballot. Apparently, nobody walked UFC president Dana White through the rules and regulations of getting MMA legalized in the country’s largest market.

“It passed 42 to 18!!!!! FINALLY!!! NY!!!!,” White tweeted.” Thank you all!!!!”

Last June when MMA was in this exact same position, the Big Apple proved to be an even bigger pain. The UFC’s hopes of displaying an Octagon inside the historic Madison Square Garden took a major hit when the Assembly stripped approval for MMA from their annual budget.




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Looks likes chances for GSP-Diaz are increasing
http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/mma/news/story?id=6580308

Less than a month after a boxing promoter announced an agreement was in place for a match pitting Diaz against IBF super middleweight former champion Jeff Lacy, the same promoter said Diaz would remain in mixed martial arts.

"Nick is a good kid and a very exciting fighter," fight promoter Don Chargin said in a prepared statement. "Right now, he has an opportunity of a lifetime as it pertains to his MMA career. While I don't doubt that Nick and his team were serious about taking the big step into boxing, it only makes sense for him to finish what he started and see how far he can go in MMA before he does anything in boxing."

Diaz (25-7), the current Strikeforce welterweight champion, met with UFC officials last week in Las Vegas to discuss his options. The 27-year-old's camp had previously said he wouldn't try boxing if a fight with UFC champion Georges St. Pierre (22-2) could be made in the same time frame.

Although it's been speculated the UFC could announce a St. Pierre-Diaz fight within the week -- possibly to be held by the end of the year in Montreal -- president Dana White told ESPN.com Monday negotiations are still ongoing and nothing is imminent.
 

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Scott Coker held a press conference today. Here are some of the announcements through @arielhelwani:

Dan Henderson vs. Fedor at a 220-pound catch weight will take place July 30.
It's going to be on Showtime.
The prelims for the 6/18 fight will be on HDNet.
Gilbert Melendez will fight in the fall, but he has no opponent, yet.
Diaz is staying with SF for now, and the GSP fight has not been scheduled. It sounds like it's not happening anytime soon.
 

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I ordered tonight's PPV out of sheer boredom but so far I'm glad I did.

Boetsch did much better against Grove than I thought he would.

Stann looked outstanding. He's got to be in the mix in the middleweight division.
 

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Yea that was fucking awesome. Struve is either getting wrecked or dishing it out. Good show.
 

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That shows the major flaw in both fighters right there. Nelson has no conditioning and Mir has no killer instinct. Incredible that he couldn't get a submission in those last 3 minutes