I continue to think that BB ends up with the Chargers. My guess is they trade a 1st and a 3rd (or a 4th) for him.
I think the Pats would do this deal. I'm less sure either BB or the LAC would agree to it. Maybe BB wants to reset his whole life, but he's always been an east coast guy. And Spanos is rumored to not want to spend big $ on a coach, which BB would rightly demand. To me Dallas, assuming they flame out again in the playoffs, makes more sense. The package could be similar (less pain for Dallas and less good for NE given likely draft position, but similar), Jerry has already brought in Parcells, and he's not afraid of big egos, the team is talented on both sides of the ball, McCarthy could easily be scapegoated, and Jerry would love the attention of the all time wins record (let alone another SB run).
No chance Kraft allows this. Too much embarrassment potential for BB to walk back into Gillette and kick the Pats ass annually.
I don’t think Dallas makes sense simply because Will McClay has done a really good job building the roster and I would be shocked if the Cowboys want to take his roster decisions and give them to BB. And I really doubt BB goes anywhere where he doesn’t have full control of the entire football operation.
Carolina has no first in 2024 (Bears). If they gave up a 2025 first for BB, it would mean BB would be going to a situation without a first-round pick until 2026.
Not when that person at 2-10 is also the greatest coach in the history of the sport.
Coaches get hired all the time after similar seasons. It’s nothing unusual.
Not really, he's the best coach in the history of the game and he's had more success than most franchises. When a coach leaves to go somewhere else it's almost always because the situation/timeline isn't right for winning where he is and he wants to go somewhere he can win short term.
Sure, but this situation is kind of unique- the current iteration of the Patriots is horrible b/c of a roster constructed by the current HC/GM. I can certainly see why organizations (incl the Patriots) would want the HC. It’s giving up compensation for the HC/GM that I am struggling with.
Well for one he was also the GM for the most unprecedented run in league history, and you don't know how they'd set up their FO, maybe they think the issue are mostly in his support staff, which they would keep much of their internal staff likely. Obviously there are some risks, but that's true of anyone you hire, and most of the guys you;d be looking at don't have anything like Bill's run in their history.
No doubt, but everyone else sees what we do. Frankly, I'm not sure why any team would give up draft resources for BB on his (presumed) terms--i.e., running everything--at this point in his career. He's had a lousy season reflecting questionable personnel choices and a sloppy, undisciplined team.
I don't disagree with the general point, but I do think we kinda forget about the special team's mistakes on the past great teams.
BB doesn't like those early picks anyway.
If Kraft could pry this year's #1 that would be amazing. But maybe same deal as with Carolina--#2 this year, #1 next season, with BB and a pick going back. Washington isn't as bad as Carolina, so picks a little lower, but still figure top half of first round next season.
That makes sense. Only thing that gives me pause is that Washington has a pretty bad roster and plays in a tough division. Is that the place that will allow him to get to Shula’s record quickly?
I've probably missed it, but has Belichick come out and said this is an important goal for him?
I agree. Why wouldn’t Bill just force Kraft to fire him and then have his pick of open jobs without handicapping his landing spot by having to give up pics? The only way a trade scenario works is if Kraft wants him to stay but he wants to leave. I think it is far more likely to be the opposite.
As noted elsewhere, Carolina won’t want to go back to back years without a first.
As the season goes along, I'm more persuaded that he will be here in 2024. Maybe even sign an extension (that is announced publicly) through 2027 or thereabouts. This is all speculation, but the other options aren't great. The defense is built here. He just needs to figure out the offense. Josh is out there, high pick, good cap room...I think both he and Kraft do the analysis and determine it's best to stay attached.
Kraft doesn’t have to relieve Bill of his contract. He could just tell Bill he no longer has any responsibilities but will be paid for sitting at home.
I could find a way to agree with you about BB's return, but I don't think I can see any path to Josh 3.0.
Absolutely more likely and would continue an oddly consistent trend: Brady, Garoppolo, and Gronk compensation yielded a second round pick total.
Real far fetched. He could tell Bill anything he wants, but if he fires him nothing is stopping Bill from getting another job.
yeah, you can't just unilaterally change the responsibilities in a contract and have it hold up, if you try Bill files a grievance or sues, you easily lose and now he's gone without compensation, you look like an idiot and you sour the long term relationship.
If Josh ever wants to be an NFL HC again, he'll be back. He's failed so miserably in his two chances, the only way he ever gets a shot is if he's already in house with an organization that knows and likes him.
In a recent podcast Greg Bedard endorsed the idea of bringing Ziegler back to Foxborough.
I think his HC days are done. If he comes back, I think it might not even be as the OC. Maybe Asst Head Coach, Offense or some made up title where he doesn't have play calling responsibility but helps gameplan, etc. He's had a lot of success here. And he clearly has issues when he's in charge. No idea what his family situation is, but that could also play a role in coming back to NE.
Smart owners would agree. Tepper might not. lol
I would be shocked if BB signed a contract that allows this.
One podcast said that Steve is really close with Mayo and if that BB leaves and Mayo is the choice, Steve could decide to stay here.
I guess. It's more that we just don't know--heck, there was back and forth on if BB was even under contract for next year at one point.
Is this true? If Bill doesn’t quit I think Kraft’s choice is to let him coach the team or fire him. If he told him to stay home I am guessing Bill would argue that is no different from terminating him. I don’t think Kraft can pay him to stay home.
Yeah, Kraft could relieve Bill from his coaching duties. It's just a nice way of saying "fired" but it works the same way. Kraft pays Bill; Bill stays at home.
