Look, I know we're disappointed, but the kid has zero motivation at this stage of his career to be indifferent to the outcomes of his pitching.
True Fans, Idiots, or Masochists
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Makes me more curious about that long conversation Bloom had with Verdugo at Fenway.
Why not just fucking forfeit. They clearly don't want to be there. This is dumb.
I guess it's good that the game started early so the happy fans can get home in time for dinner.
I guess it's good that the game started early so the happy fans can get home in time for dinner.
I probably should cut the younger guys some slack, but my "slack cutting" pretty much ran out after the ASB.
It’s hilarious that every time I check the score after they’ve started they are always losing. With no chance of coming back.
One way not to get scapegoated is to not suck. Verdugo has had a pretty terrible September. If you cherry pick back into August right after he had that mini-explosion of 9 hits in 3 games, he's got a .468 OPS.
None of that is fair, maybe, but when you suck you make it easy.
Verdugo is a perfectly fine player, who we would all love if he wasn't being asked to be one of the best players on the team.
Last night they came back, until Murphy walked two guys later in the game and Winck gave up a single.
Is there anything that Masa does particularly well? What a disappointment. He's been fine. But we need a little better than fine out of the guy.
2 walks in September? How the fuck is that even possible? It's the fucking 27th.
2 walks in September? How the fuck is that even possible? It's the fucking 27th.
It's so weird. Early in the season he was walking and looked like he was going to post a high OBP but he just stopped walking.
Wow. You came real close. Yoshida grounded to 1st, Dalbec and Valdez struck out. Impressive.
He's been one of the best hitters on the team recently. He hit a double last night. Review the recent games---you expect him to be the best hitter on the team? Most people expect that of Devers, who is powerful, but often disappointing (0-5 last night). Geez, you guys kill me. It's all What Have You Done for me Lately?
The first half of the year he was one of the best hitters in all of baseball.
It's been such a stark contrast. It will be interesting to see how he does next year with the experience under his belt. He seems like the kind of guy that will make the adjustments. I'm glad they got him.
I don't think it's a what have you done for me lately. If you take any player's best stretch they will look great. But we have a year (well almost) of Masa now, and he's just ok. He is not very valuable from a wins perspective and doesn't do anything very well. He's a minus defender. He's a somewhat better than average hitter. His super power could and should have been getting on base, but he's just completely pissed it away in brutal fashion.
I really would like to see the club set up so guys can make adjustments in-season. I mean it's happened but so many guys have seemed to have flat stretches for so long.
He seems like a decent guy. Did he mentor any players in particular this year? I thought I read something about that, but can't recall at the moment.
I agree with you and am optimistic about Masa's hit tool. But you pretty much have the same attitude about Devers, often calling him disappointing and "0-5 last night" might strike some as a What Have You Done for me Lately? They can both be good.
Without knowing, I would think that he has been a really good influence on Casas.
Cora did that so that the home crowd could provide a big send off for his last game in Fenway (this year?).
He's walked 7 times from July 1 on ... for an everyday player, that's improbable at best. Plus, his first half, second half splits are telling ... in that he doesn't seem to have made the adjustments to MLB pitching that pitchers have made to him.
He's not a lost cause by any means, and I'm hopeful his second season will be better.
They said Cora wanted him to get a hand from the fans on the last game at home (Since it might be a one and done with the Sox)
Oh, I meant to say about Devers that if you want to play the "Lately" game you can play it with him, too, the best hitter on the team.
Edit: I do find his defense disappointing. I hope it improves.
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We'll see, and I hope so too. One thing that's pretty interesting is that his second half strike outs have not changed too dramatically. He's had about 14 more in his second half (by PAs) thank his first half. That's not nothing, but doesn't seem to scream out that he's lost his batter's eye. I know that lots goes into taking bases on balls, but he's making plenty of contact and obviously seeing the ball well enough to do that. He's just swinging at everything.
For a tale of two halves guy, you'd definitely prefer that the second half be better than the first. I'm not trying to say he'll never get better. I hope he will. It's just pretty shocking what has happened to him, and I don't think it has much to do with the shorter Japan season or whatever. Man, if you'd offered me a bet whether he would finish in the top 50 MLB OBP after the ASG, I probably would have ended up losing a lot of money.
Tampa will sign him, straighten out his strike out issues, and he'll torture us for the next few years.
The last several home stands have been pretty brutal. Tough way to send your fans off for the winter today.
Didn’t Dalbec say when he came back that he had figured it up? I assumed he meant hitting.
If they continue to have the fan get together in Springfield during the winter with John Henry , Kennedy etc THAT could be interesting. They got booed last time and not much has changed in the standings.
He's been ok. Small sample, and 6 of his 8 or whatever games have been against pretty good teams.
Lots of Ks, yeah, but he's gotten some hits. Took a few walks.
