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So a point on Sunday guarantees at least the playoff, right?
Yes, it would guarantee that Panama can't pass us.

A win gives us a basically insurmountable lead over Costa Rica, even if the Ticos win at El Salvador. The GD gap is considerable.
 

Jimy Hendrix

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Very ready for Ferreira on Sunday. No striker is more attractive than the one who didn't play in the largely drab 0 - 0
 

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We should've won, but I'm choosing to be happy with that performance and the work that Honduras did tonight. We're in good shape. Just get in.
 

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So beat Panama and we are in basically based on tiebreakers as the first one is goal differential and currently the US is +9 and CR is +2
If U.S. beats Panama, then the U.S. goal difference goes to at least +10 also. The one caveat here is that head to head goals count double so CRC gets a +2 advantage for each goal it beats U.S. by. Basically what we are looking for is the U.S. to win and for El Salvador not to allow CRC to go wild.
 

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Watched it on delay this morning. I really thought they played well and probably deserved all 3 points. While missing two sitters really sucks, I would have happily taken a point yesterday afternoon given the injuries so hard to be too upset. While Honduras did us a major solid with their tie last night, the Canada loss to Costa Rica sets up my worst nightmare of having to actually care about that last game in the cycle. Hopefully they take care of business in Orlando and all they need is a single point (or 1 goal loss at Costa Rica).

Could Honduras or El Salvador help us out again in the next cycle? They are both home so you never know. I guess I need to cheer for Andre Blake against Canada as well just to keep Canada engaged for their final match against Panama (just in case it gets nutty)

Most important question for Sunday is "who is playing right back?" No Dest and now Yedlin is suspended and Cannon has Covid. Crazy that Berhalter didn't replace the Aaronsson spot sooner. I guess Shaq Moore could fly in and start? What did Joe Scally do to Berhalter?
 

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Most important question for Sunday is "who is playing right back?" No Dest and now Yedlin is suspended and Cannon has Covid. Crazy that Berhalter didn't replace the Aaronsson spot sooner. I guess Shaq Moore could fly in and start? What did Joe Scally do to Berhalter?
Reports are that Shaq was called in yesterday after the Canon news. I guess I cam understand Gregg going with a known player in a pinch…but at some point, Scally has to get the call. It’s getting silly.

I thought EPB looked fine in emergency, stay-home-and-defend duty at RB last night. Not a good back up plan, but it’s something.
 

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If the US and CR win by the same margins on Sunday, then it'd require a 4-0 or 5-1 result from CR on Wednesday to leap frog right? That just seems so unlikely. A win against Panama all but punches the ticket.
 

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If the US and CR win by the same margins on Sunday, then it'd require a 4-0 or 5-1 result from CR on Wednesday to leap frog right? That just seems so unlikely. A win against Panama all but punches the ticket.
This is a different, better team of course, but we did lose 4-0 at Costa Rica last cycle.
 

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Just gonna watch this on repeat all day. My favorite moment is Herrera sitting on his ass, swinging a leg at the air.

 

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There’s nothing more American than a player going in that run and the striker floats in space and tries to get on the back shoulder for a through ball while providing 0 passing options.

I know the game situation had the US thinking draw at that point but it should be impossible to skin 6 defenders and never have a viable passing option lol
 

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There’s nothing more American than a player going in that run and the striker floats in space and tries to get on the back shoulder for a through ball while providing 0 passing options.

I know the game situation had the US thinking draw at that point but it should be impossible to skin 6 defenders and never have a viable passing option lol
This is all tactically correct, but I think both Gio's ability to absolutely dust that many guys and zero Americans keeping pace with him had a lot to do with it being minute 77 at altitude as well.

Also, after what he got from Pefork after selflessly setting up the open net shot earlier, I am not sure he passes it even if he had four good options in on goal.
 

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I think that 2 points from the last two also punches our ticket? We’d be on 24, and the best Panama and CR could do if that were the case is 23 and 22, respectively.
 

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Whatever happens… Azteca does not seem impenetrable. Never watched one of these where it didn’t seem downhill against the visitors.
Well, it's going to be a while before there's another meaningful US-Mexico game here. Automatic qualifiers in 2026 and in 2030 there's an expanded field, qualification will be a bit easier.
 

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I think that 2 points from the last two also punches our ticket? We’d be on 24, and the best Panama and CR could do if that were the case is 23 and 22, respectively.
Looks right. A draw Sunday guarantees 4th.

Additionally, we can clinch a World Cup spot Sunday with:

  • A win against Panama and a Costa Rica draw or loss against El Salvador
  • A draw with Panama and a Costa Rica loss
 

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This is all tactically correct, but I think both Gio's ability to absolutely dust that many guys and zero Americans keeping pace with him had a lot to do with it being minute 77 at altitude as well.

Also, after what he got from Pefork after selflessly setting up the open net shot earlier, I am not sure he passes it even if he had four good options in on goal.
Oh I know I’m just laughing because I used to make that same run all the time and drive my midfielders crazy. It’s like part of our DNA or something
 

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I have been a Gio detractor simply because he hadn't seemed to stand out much with USMNT compared to McKennie/Dest/etc, so it was good to see him so active last night. With everyone healthy I do have some "there's only one ball" concerns but then again if we can actually get all of CP/Dest/Weston/Adams/Musah/Gio on the field together I'm sure I will be happy enough with that. Fully armed and operational battle station and all that.
 

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Roger Bennett with an interesting point this morning. Next time we play against Mexico with qualification on the line will be 2029. I’ll be in my freaking 60s!
 

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Roger Bennett with an interesting point this morning. Next time we play against Mexico with qualification on the line will be 2029. I’ll be in my freaking 60s!
Concacaf will have six teams at the World Cup starting in 2026 plus a playoff spot, so obviously we won't have a hexagonal round in 2030 qualifying. An octagonal could theoretically work with six teams advancing to the Cup, one to the playoffs, and one staying home, but it probably won't produce much drama. Concacaf could choose a marathon 10-team table like Conmebol, but I think we will have groups like the rest of the world starting that year.

So there is a chance that was the last time we play against Mexico with qualification on the line in our lifetimes.