Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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Peter King has Mark Sanchez in his top 5 MVP candidates.

Over Peyton Manning.
That's stupid but still not as stupid as leaving Newark at 8:15 to get a flight out of JFK at 10:30.

Anyhow, I liked this:

8. I think, just to make it clear from my Friday item on Peyton Manning and Tom Moore holding substantive conversations outside the locker room the last time they played in Foxboro, I don't believe there's any way the Gillette Stadium locker room was bugged. I just think in this hugely intense rivalry, the paranoia antennae are raised pretty high whenever they play.

Nice to mention that you thought the Colts' fears were misplaced after writing the first story legitimizing them.
 

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Be fair to Sanchez, it was a great throw downfield to set up the final TD, even if Eugene Wilson completely screwed up on the play.
I wouldn't pick Sanchez as an MVP but there certainly is an argument to be made that his late game heroics are either (a) a sign of "clutchness" (I don't buy that in his case-his fourth quarter and close game stats aren't all that good) or (b) are a little bit like a crappy hitter who has a ton of RBIs and game-winning RBIs. Maybe it's not repeatable, maybe it's luck, but he did have big moments in big games, and the MVP awards are in my book for the player who accomplished the most, not for the best player or the most talented player.
 

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3) That being said, in what fucking world does the NJT, or Belt Parkway, three or four-lane highways for most of the stretch to JFK, count as "potholed" or something from Kabul? Way to embellish the bullshit, King. "Driving on 93 from Boston to Reading is hellish, a potholed monstrosity, like something out of Baghdad during Desert Storm...So I was late, because I only gave myself 20 minutes."
Not that I really disagree with your overall post or your point that this comment is some sweet, sweet hyperbole, but the Belt is in really really rough shape. It's not a smooth ride by any stretch of the imagination.
 

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I think that I had the opposite reaction to King's tale of woe than he wanted me to. I laughed really hard, especially when he tried to bribe the limo guy.

What cracks me up about that is, what if the limo driver took him to the terminal and his client (the guy who's paying way more than $40) was stuck waiting for him? The client would (rightly) be pissed. Imagine further that that client was Peter King? Holy shit, we'd have to read all about how Limo Company X doesn't put their "real" customers first and how these drivers are a disgrace who would sell out their "true clients" for $40, blah, blah, blah.

And BTW, the bus driver had the perfect answer for King when King told him to break the rules. "This is my job, do you want me to get fired? Are you going to hire me?" That in a nutshell is how you handle an elitist prick like Peter King. Fuck him and his fat ass for being late and expecting everyone to go out of their way to rectify his mistakes. What a douche, he has to be completely self-absorbed and deluded to think that anyone would have even the remotest inkling of sympathy for him.

And don't tell me that SI won't reimburse him for this shit. Ugh.
 

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I wouldn't pick Sanchez as an MVP but there certainly is an argument to be made that his late game heroics are either (a) a sign of "clutchness" (I don't buy that in his case-his fourth quarter and close game stats aren't all that good) or (b) are a little bit like a crappy hitter who has a ton of RBIs and game-winning RBIs. Maybe it's not repeatable, maybe it's luck, but he did have big moments in big games, and the MVP awards are in my book for the player who accomplished the most, not for the best player or the most talented player.
Frankly, I think there's a better argument that Sanchez is actually detrimental to his teams success. I'm not taking away that the ball thrown to Edwards was beautiful or that he has been able to put together some impressive drives at the end of games, but MVP hype? No, not for a QB that is ahead of only Jason Campbell and Derek Anderson in completion percentage. Couple that with the talent surrounding him on offense and the Jets just simply shouldn't be squeaking games out against the Broncos, Lions, Browns, and Texans. They're the most talented team in the NFL, it's surprising to see that they're not beating middling teams more soundly than they are, and frankly, I'd argue that it's primarily a product of the mediocre accuracy of Mark Sanchez.
 

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Frankly, I think there's a better argument that Sanchez is actually detrimental to his teams success. I'm not taking away that the ball thrown to Edwards was beautiful or that he has been able to put together some impressive drives at the end of games, but MVP hype? No, not for a QB that is ahead of only Jason Campbell and Derek Anderson in completion percentage. Couple that with the talent surrounding him on offense and the Jets just simply shouldn't be squeaking games out against the Broncos, Lions, Browns, and Texans. They're the most talented team in the NFL, it's surprising to see that they're not beating middling teams more soundly than they are, and frankly, I'd argue that it's primarily a product of the mediocre accuracy of Mark Sanchez.
I agree with you, I'm just saying it's not insane to say, for example, that Sanchez had a more "MVPy" day than Manning did yesterday--throwing a winning touchdown rather than a game clinching pick on your last drive makes up for a lot of missed passes in the third quarter. I don't subscribe to that theory but it's not idiotic.

FWIW, my MVP list is Manning, Rivers, Brady, Rogers with Vick coming fast.
 

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I actually did feel sorry for him in his JFK story, mostly because as a 16-year veteran of NYC I'm well acquainted with the mix of incompetence multiplied by indifference that New York delivers more regularly than anyplace else. He arrived at the airport 75 minutes before his flight time. If you're not checking any bags there's no way that shouldn't be enough time. His description of the airport employees rang wincingly true. If you spend any length of time in NYC you're going to have an experience where you get directed into a feedback loop of bad information.

I thought he made a good point about Vick. Even if he plays every snap the rest of the way he will finish the year having missed about a quarter of his team's offensive snaps. Can you be the MVP having missed a quarter of the season?
 

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Be fair to Sanchez, it was a great throw downfield to set up the final TD, even if Eugene Wilson completely screwed up on the play.
Let's not absolve Jason Allen either. As Dungy and Harrison pointed out last night, there was absolutely no reason for him to be playing inside technique instead of outside technique in that situation. Ball at Houston's 48, less than 30 seconds left and the Jets had no TOs. They gave up the one play they couldn't afford to: a deep ball down the sideline. It was a great play by Braylon and Sanchez, but it was a monumental fuck up by the Houston defense.
 

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There's literally no way I could even see Sanchez over Freeman for the MVP, much less Peyton Manning.

I mean, fuck, his completion percentage is 53% despite being surrounded by oodles of talent.
 

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This made me laugh:

Tony Dungy on what the Titans should do with their dissatisfied quarterback: "I think you've got to cut ties with Vince Young.'' Bold. Beautiful.
What is so bold and beautiful? Cutting ties with Vince Young? Dungy for making the statement? If it's Dungy, why is that either bold or beautiful?
 

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In regards to the Denver/SF videotaping issue...
Peter King said that he called the league offices to find out if they were re-opening the NE investigation, and they said no.

Why, in god's name, are we STILL bringing this up? -sigh-
 

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Factoid of the Week That May Interest Only Me II

Buffalo safety Bryan Scott rides his bike 2.5 miles to work each day. In Buffalo. Still did it all last week, even as the temperatures dipped into the low 30s. "I guess I'm spearheading the 'green' initiative for the Bills,'' he said. "I'll be riding 'til the first snowfall. There's been some mornings where it's been 34, 35 degrees, but I enjoy the scenery, and it makes me feel like I'm doing a little good. There's only one Planet Earth. We've got to take care of it.''
There are, literally, hundreds of people in Minneapolis (which has, at the very least, comparable weather to Buffalo) who ride their bikes to work every day in the winter. I imagine many people in Buffalo do the same, for a variety of reasons.

What the fuck is so interesting about a pro athlete riding a bike (only 2.5 miles, I might add, which is probably a 15-20 minute ride) to the stadium, in nice weather (low 30s is nice weather in November when you live in a cold-weather city)?
Saturday morning, 11:45, No. 1 train headed downtown, New York City Subway:

On my way to a lower east-side lunch, I boarded a train at Penn Station and immediately smelled a powerful combination of man-stink, B.O., and a portopot. The doors closed, and I looked over, and there, in the back of the car, stretched out over the equivalent of four hard bench seats, was a 40ish man, maybe 375 pounds, with half of his distended gut pushing out of a worn T-shirt and above the belt of filthy sweatpants. The man was snoring like a steam locomotive. I was on the train for seven or eight minutes and he never stirred. You could hear him snoring in Pennsylvania. I never talk on the subway, but I did make eye contact with a man across from me who, too, was incredulous. "I've never seen anything like that in my life -- how can you sleep that soundly on a moving subway?'' I said. The stranger said: "That's better than I've slept in 10 years.''

I got off the train to transfer to the L train. Waiting for the Brooklyn-bound L, I saw a seven-inch rat scurry along the tracks and look up as if to say, "Got any Jujubes up there for me?''

Gotta love New York. I think with this story and the JFK Airport story of a couple weeks ago, I could be doing quite a bit to slow the Manhattan population explosion.
From this tidbit we learn:
A) Peter King is too afraid to talk to people on the subway, unless it's to make fun of a homeless person.
B) Peter King has apparently never seen a homeless person before.
C) Peter King was unaware that New York City has homeless people.
D) Peter King is completely unaware that an obese, filthy, homeless person on the subway might either be a drug addict/alcoholic, or mentally ill (or both), which would account for his ability to sleep on a subway.
E) Peter King was unaware of the NYC cliche regarding rats on the subway tracks.

Consider: Peter King lived 12 miles west of NYC for about 20 years.

I've got to give props to owner Ralph Wilson this morning
Does anyone say this anymore?
 

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In regards to the Denver/SF videotaping issue...
Peter King said that he called the league offices to find out if they were re-opening the NE investigation, and they said no.

Why, in god's name, are we STILL bringing this up? -sigh-
He mentioned this today, he opened his mouth last night before having any info:
"There were questions at the meeting I had with the staff on Friday in a private staff meeting,'' McDaniels told me last night for a report I aired on NBC's Football Night in America show. "I was asked by someone in the meeting how this compared to the Patriots situation. I didn't try to minimize the seriousness of what we did [in the Denver incident]. I feel bad that it's being represented that I had some inside information about what happened with the Patriots, because I don't.'' Instead, McDaniels told me, he was speaking of the New England case.

Nothing McDaniels said or did will re-open the league's investigation. The league doesn't see the connection between McDaniels' statement and any new information. I was told by one league official Sunday that I was way off base, and there was nothing in Glazer's report to suggest the league has a reason to re-open the case. In the same vein, the Patriots declined comment Sunday, saying, in essence, there was nothing there -- no new news.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/11/28/week-12-monday-morning-qb/index.html?eref=sihp
 

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From this tidbit we learn:
A) Peter King is too afraid to talk to people on the subway, unless it's to make fun of a homeless person.
B) Peter King has apparently never seen a homeless person before.
C) Peter King was unaware that New York City has homeless people.
D) Peter King is completely unaware that an obese, filthy, homeless person on the subway might either be a drug addict/alcoholic, or mentally ill (or both), which would account for his ability to sleep on a subway.
E) Peter King was unaware of the NYC cliche regarding rats on the subway tracks.

Consider: Peter King lived 12 miles west of NYC for about 20 years.
If you've been around the MSG/ Penn Station area more than a couple times and fat, passed-out homeless people are still drawing a surprised reaction, something isn't clicking upstairs. I work in that exact neighborhood. Packed with homeless folks, drug addicts-- it is Travis Bickle's monologued nightmare. To say nothing of the subway.

"You still moving to New York?"
"Oh, I don't know. Peter King saw a fat homeless guy sleeping on a subway train, not sure if it's for me after all."
 

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I agree with the above, but one of my good buddies from college got a mention in King's column. He was the dude that wrote in about Bledsoe's wine.

Peter King still sucks rat balls though.
 

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I used to find his writing somewhat insightful and interesting...but something changed and these days his MMQB is a never-ending dissertation. He must get paid on a "per random thought" basis.
 

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PK has been coasting on his rep for a while, but I give him credit for his take on the Johnson-Finegan fines:

I find it absurd that the NFL thinks what it's done to the three fighters will do anything to change their behavior, or deter other players from fighting in the future. The NFL should have suspended Finnegan and Johnson for one game apiece. That would have gotten players' attention.
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I've been traveling this week so maybe it's gotten more play in the media, but I can't understand how the NFL that claims to hold player safety in such high regard can announce these fines with a straight face. What a joke.
 

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Is it me, or is this over the top, even for MMQ?

"
Troy Polamalu was the last Steeler left in the shower early this morning, and Mike Tomlin was feeling frisky."

:rolling:

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/12/05/monday-morning-qb-week-13/index.html#ixzz17LUGnERJ

PS - that's odd - I didn't mean to paste that link (I would have gone back to do so, but this particular paste wasn't intentional). What is this? Does SI have a way of auto-attaching links to cut-and-pastes?
 

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Is it me, or is this over the top, even for MMQ?

"
Troy Polamalu was the last Steeler left in the shower early this morning, and Mike Tomlin was feeling frisky."

:rolling:

Read more: http://sportsillustr...l#ixzz17LUGnERJ

PS - that's odd - I didn't mean to paste that link (I would have gone back to do so, but this particular paste wasn't intentional). What is this? Does SI have a way of auto-attaching links to cut-and-pastes?

I came here to post the same thing. How does that get by an editor? It's poorly worded, but awesome on the unintentional comedy scale. KG's "no homo" comment would fit perfectly in the story.

 

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I came here to post the same thing. How does that get by an editor? It's poorly worded, but awesome on the unintentional comedy scale. KG's "no homo" comment would fit perfectly in the story.
Definitely a classic for the unintentional comedy archives!
 

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Is it me, or is this over the top, even for MMQ?

"
Troy Polamalu was the last Steeler left in the shower early this morning, and Mike Tomlin was feeling frisky."

:rolling:

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/peter_king/12/05/monday-morning-qb-week-13/index.html#ixzz17LUGnERJ

PS - that's odd - I didn't mean to paste that link (I would have gone back to do so, but this particular paste wasn't intentional). What is this? Does SI have a way of auto-attaching links to cut-and-pastes?
Yeah, I noticed the link thing before. There is a piece of javascript running when you copy/paste from si.com that appends the link back to the page.
 

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And it's always about the miniscule differences between the coffee at starbucks A and starbucks B. 10-1 he's got an endorsement deal from them.
Only because of PK did I learn of that uniquely American beverage (seriously, only we could think of a way to make something this unhealthy): https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Caff%C3%A8_breve

Who fucking thought of making a latte with half-and-half?!?! And more to the point, who thought it was a good idea?
 
Only because of PK did I learn of that uniquely American beverage (seriously, only we could think of a way to make something this unhealthy): https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Caff%C3%A8_breve

Who fucking thought of making a latte with half-and-half?!?! And more to the point, who thought it was a good idea?
Someone too ashamed to just ask for whipped cream on their coffee. That would probably actually be healthier.
 

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Let's start with this:

• Brett Favre's not getting suspended, unless I've got the football acumen of Cosmo Kramer. And he might not be sanctioned at all for Sterger-gate.
What a surprise. By the way, Peter, what about your "inside source" that says the Jets are in big trouble? Hmm? What's that? There's no case against them and you actually just got played (again)? Good work, numbnuts.

"Not that I don't like a team unafraid of talking a little bit before a big game. I actually love a team that talks. (This just in: Woody Johnson is on Twitter and he commented on practice Saturday; can you imagine Bob Kraft tweeting about practice -- and Bill Belichick not going nuts?)"
Well, see, Peter: Bill clamps down on his own comments, as well as what his players/staff say to the press. He "goes nuts" when they violate that policy because A) he's their boss, and B) he told them not to.

Kraft, on the other hand, is Bill's boss. I don't think he's really in a position to "go nuts" if his boss made a tweet during a practice.

On the MVP race:

Tom Brady, QB, New England. Tonight's a big game in the Rivers-Brady MVP battle.
Oh, so Brees is breathing down Tom's neck for MVP? Seems reasonable.

Oh wait, what did you say in the previous fucking sentence?

Very hard, and probably wrong, to keep Philip Rivers off the list this week. He's a close six to Drew Brees, and sure to be on this list sometime this month, but not after a bad day for the Chargers against Oakland.
Oh. Ok, so maybe he just means that Rivers is the next best QB in the race, so Tom had better watch out?

2. Matt Ryan, QB, Atlanta.
3. Aaron Rodgers, QB, Green Bay.
5. Drew Brees, QB, New Orleans.
Huh?
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What are the odds PK pays it forward and gives some poor shlub a ride in his car the next time he's driving from NYC to BOS? 1%?

And finally, oh the wonderful irony:

a. We've had enough of the gecko, Geico. I think I speak for all of America when I say that, the same as it was once over for Spuds McKenzie.

b. Coffeenerdness: Starbucks finally has the egg nog latte right. In the past, they've had so many varieties of egg nog, some of it actually metallic-tasting. But I've had the egg nog latte in four markets now, and they've figured some way to get it right. And they have it right.
 

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This is absolutely hilarious [click here]: Deadspin compares Peter King and Joe Posnanski's accounts of their travel troubles during the nor'easter last week. Turns out that JoePos is not just a far far better writer, but probably a better person too.

EDIT: By Boston-area businessman, King is saying that he got a ride with a partner at Bain whose net worth must easily be in excess of 100 mill.
 
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From the comments under there:

Sure, Joe takes a Chinese girl on a twelve hour ride and he's "The Salt of the Earth". I take a whole load of Chinese girls on a twelve day adventure on a nice cargo ship and I get placed on trial for "human trafficking".
 

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I've seen some bush-league things in 26 years covering the NFL, but that's got to be in the top 10. Though Alosi apologized, I think a one-game suspension for affecting the competitive balance of a game is in order.
Before I go on, understand I'm not attempting to minimize what the Patriots did wrong. Roger Goodell was right to take away a first-round pick and whack the Pats $750,000 for the misdeed...

New England has played almost half the number of games (64) as it played coached by Belichick before the sanctions came down (126). So the sample size is good to determine what sort of edge Belichick and his team got from knowing what the opposing signals might have meant. And the answer I found is: not much, apparently.
Potentially injuring a player by physically interfering with the play while on the sideline: one game suspension for the strength coach who did it. Which, frankly, will mean absolutely nothing to the Jets organization on a practical level.

Engaging in a practice that other coaches have admitted to that has proven to have absolutely no impact on competitive balance: 1st round draft pick, $750,000 fine, public lambasting and vilification.

Seems about right, Peter!


"Disconcerting signals. Indianapolis number 99 trying to draw a false start by calling the count. That 15-yard penalty has been accepted on the ensuing kickoff.''
-- Referee John Parry, on Colts defensive tackle Al Johnson simulating the snap count by Tennessee quarterback Kerry Collins Thursday night.

Why is that here? The words "disconcerting signals.'' Have you ever heard a ref say that New York Times Thursday crossword word over a microphone?
Instead of talking about the penalty (isn't this something that got Brady really steamed a few weeks ago?), let's celebrate ignorance! Boo for middle-sized words!


One of the strangest men I've seen sat across the aisle from me on the Boston-to-New York train Saturday. The guy, about 30, took out his Blackberry power cord when we got on, plugged the phone in, had nothing else out on his little table, and when to work texting and looking at email (I suppose) and Tweets or whatever. He did not get up to use the rest room. He did not get up to get anything to eat, not to ask for anything. He sat for 3 hours and 47 minutes. When the announcement came on that we were pulling into Manhattan, he unplugged the phone, put the power cord back in his bag, and, walking off the train, kept his eyes glued to the device.

Blackberry rehab, dude.
Peter King is shocked, SHOCKED, that a 30 year old man might traveling from Boston to New York, with a blackberry, might be working.Yes, some people actually have important shit to do, and don't have time to waste bumbling about the quality of train coffee.

d. I see Taylor Swift turns 21 today. I bet she won't remember me leaving my size-14 hoofprint on her red dress at Saturday Night Live last year. Either that or it's scarred her for life.
"DO YOU HAVE MY COFFEE! WHERE IS MY COFFEE?! MISS??"
 
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Here's one thing I Think I Think: Minnesota punter Chris Kluwe's long screed/explanation defending the Giants' Matt Dodge for punting the ball to DeSean Jackson last weekend is the most informative thing I've ever read in a Peter King column, since I actually learned something interesting and subtle. It's on Page 2 of the column, which I just linked. Take a look.
 

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Here's one thing I Think I Think: Minnesota punter Chris Kluwe's long screed/explanation defending the Giants' Matt Dodge for punting the ball to DeSean Jackson last weekend is the most informative thing I've ever read in a Peter King column, since I actually learned something interesting and subtle. It's on Page 2 of the column, which I just linked. Take a look.
That was a really good read. Thanks for linking it, as I do not read Peter King regularly.
 
From today's Ten Things I Think I Think:

c. Rob Ninkovich has to be in the top 10 in the NFL this year in quarterback pressures. He's this decade's Mike Vrabel, the underused journeyman linebacker who plays a role Bill Belichick needs to make his defense work.
Ninkovich has played better than I expected and he's had some really good games, but this is one hell of a stretch.
 

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King doesn't know what he's talking about.

Ninkovich doesn't suck, but he isn't all that good. He's a JAG; you need guys like him on a winning team, but ideally he's not playing 80% of defensive snaps. He certainly should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Mike Vrabel, who was incredible at playing the run on the edge (one of Ninkovich's chief weaknesses).

Peter also doesn't realize that LawFirm is indeed a good back in his own right.
 

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Ninkovich doesn't suck, but he isn't all that good. He's a JAG; you need guys like him on a winning team, but ideally he's not playing 80% of defensive snaps. He certainly should never be mentioned in the same sentence as Mike Vrabel, who was incredible at playing the run on the edge (one of Ninkovich's chief weaknesses).
And yet, their both their last names, BOTH, contain the letter "v" not to mention both playing the same position for the same team.

Clearly, it's a reasonable comp.
 

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Here's one thing I Think I Think: Minnesota punter Chris Kluwe's long screed/explanation defending the Giants' Matt Dodge for punting the ball to DeSean Jackson last weekend is the most informative thing I've ever read in a Peter King column, since I actually learned something interesting and subtle. It's on Page 2 of the column, which I just linked. Take a look.
Is it surprising at all that such an in-depth and well-explained response didn't sway P.K. at all? I can picture him reading that, sipping on his jumbo sized caramel fappacino, cutting and pasting it, grunting, "whatever, kid still shoulda kicked it outta bounds," then going back to writing about all those interesting people he sees on the trains.
 

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Jeez:

1. There is this strange custom called a "Keg Stand'' that all kids evidently do now. You stand next to the keg, put both hands on the side of the keg, have two others lift your legs so that you're upside down, and, at that point, a third person takes the beer nozzle from the keg and puts it in your mouth while you drink it. A fourth person pumps the keg. And everyone counts the seconds you can last. (Dumb me, I didn't even know what this thing was, and it's apparently the most common of drinking games.) I didn't do it, thankfully. But congrats to Brittany, the biggest Sidney Crosby fan there is (who must be all of 102 pounds), who was able to last 24 seconds. Drinking upside-down. What a country.
From this week's column.
 

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This was great too:


Dumbest officiating decision of the new millennium: The "excessive-celebration'' call on Kansas State wide receiver Adrian Hilburn after he scored in the Pinstripe Bowl at Yankee Stadium Thursday to narrow Syracuse's lead to 36-34. Hilburn ran into the end zone, got to the back of the end zone, stopped, quickly saluted the crowd in the end zone, and ran to his bench. Two officials flagged him for the excessive celebration that to any witness other than a zebra would not have seemed excessive.

A 1.5-second stop, salute and run to the bench? In the House that Steinbrenner Built? George Steinbrenner, arguably the most patriotic of all Americans until his death last summer, is rolling over in his grave that a simple salute -- whatever its intent -- would cost a team 15 yards. The officials ruled the celebration was, in their words, "delayed, excessive and choreographed.'' I have three words for the officials' explanation: "dumb, dumber and criminal.''
 

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I liked when he pointed out that next year the Colts play at NE for the "629th straight season." Ignoring of course that the 3 years before this one they played in Indy.
 

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FWIW, I think he meant that the Colts play New England again, as they have every year since they split out of the same division. He did a thing on it not too long ago, how awesome it was that they keep playing because as one team goes, oft so goes the other. They always seem to match up their places in the divisions every single year. And if they don't, it's the year we play the AFC South anyways.