has fancy plans, and pants to match
- Apr 12, 2001
He really is down on the NFL playing next season.
Because of his connections, that concerns me. A lot.
Because of his connections, that concerns me. A lot.
Consider, though, that King has a tendency to report what people want him to report, because he is gullible. If he's reporting that it's unlikely that there's not going to be a season, that doesn't mean he's simply synthesizing some information that he's dug up; it means someone wants him to believe that there will be no 2011. 99% chance that this message is coming from the owners, who have been saying the same thing for months.He really is down on the NFL playing next season.
Because of his connections, that concerns me. A lot.
This is when I thought of the circle of NFL life: Watching the early games Sunday at NBC, on a day that could be the last full schedule of pro football for a very long time, FOX on one screen was showing Brett Favre looking very old on the sideline of the Detroit-Minnesota game, and then the games started in earnest, and things started happening, as they do every Sunday.
At 1:04 p.m. ET, Troy Polamalu picks off Colt McCoy in Cleveland.
At 1:05 p.m. ET, Ed Reed picks off Carson Palmer in Baltimore.
At 1:06 p.m. ET: Devin McCourty picks off Chad Henne in Foxboro.
Favre was leaving, and veterans were making plays, and the new great defensive back made one too, as if to say, "When you guys are gone, I'll be taking over.''
While I agree with you and think that maybe the owners are using him as a mouthpiece (ala Gammons), aside from Favre, I wouldn't say that King is completely stupid. He may be dopey in his off-football opinions and has zero clue as to how to relate to his readers, but like Gammons he is the most connected guy in his sport, so his opinions do mean something.Consider, though, that King has a tendency to report what people want him to report, because he is gullible. If he's reporting that it's unlikely that there's not going to be a season, that doesn't mean he's simply synthesizing some information that he's dug up; it means someone wants him to believe that there will be no 2011. 99% chance that this message is coming from the owners, who have been saying the same thing for months.
The upshot is: King's opinion means nothing. He's great at reporting facts, quotes, and stories, but not at coming to his own conclusions based on those observations. Just look at his handling of all things Favre.
Quoting a tired stale quip from a New York journalist from AOL Fanhouse on the Patriots is pretty pathetic, esp on the first page. This is a case where conventional idiot wisdom continues repeating itself, and King, who's the children's lit writer equivalent for the NFL, is the perfect meatball courier.I feel like he's made reference to a BCS joke with regard to the Patriots multiple times before.
Wow, I didn't even notice that!"George Steinbrenner, arguably the most patriotic of all Americans until his death last summer"
Uhhh, yes, I would agree that that is arguable.
RT @TheYankeeU: Aryan Nations is a white supremacist group. I'd say that little quip should be shelved ... You are right. My apologies.
I'm not sure how he misses this, especially since the Pats beat the Steelers in the first one he is counting for the Steelers, but the Pats have been to five (5) as well. I found myself wondering why he can't count.8. I think that even though the Steelers lost the Super Bowl, I found myself wondering why Pittsburgh's been to more conference championship games (5) over the past decade than any other team in the league. I settled on consistency.
"I found myself wondering why Team A is consistently good. I settled on consistency."Today's Peter King Nugget of Nowledge
I'm not sure how he misses this, especially since the Pats beat the Steelers in the first one he is counting for the Steelers, but the Pats have been to five (5) as well. I found myself wondering why he can't count.
edit: I suck at quotes.
Fucking Coffee comes from the Peruvian Andes.h. Beernerdness: Tried Cristal, a pilsner from Peru, at a Peruvian restaurant in the Pacific Heights section of San Francisco the other night. Very nice. Smooth, with a nice bite. A little like Peroni. "Beer from the Andes,'' the label said. Don't believe I've ever consumed anything from the Andes before. A nice experience.
This is why having Peter King file his usual column while travelling is a bad idea.The Eagles wouldn't have signed Nnamdi Asomugha without a simultaneous middle-of-the-night exchange of text messages between GM Howie Roseman and the agent for Asomugha, Ben Dogra, 15 hours before he agreed to terms with Philadelphia.
http://twitter.com/#!/SI_PeterKing/status/97828878843772930Interesting but not too surprising: Just got stiffed at Panther camp by Cam Newton. Chose not to talk to me post-evening practice.
Good for Newton. King called him out before the draft saying the Newton cared more about being an entertainer than a football player without any really shreds of evidence. The next week King tried to back peddle, but did so halfheartedly.http://twitter.com/#!/SI_PeterKing/status/97828878843772930
I didn't want to bump this thread back when he filed his first post-vacation article, but...the guy didn't know Hitler was from Austria. Unless I'm crazy, everyone with a high school education knows that. I can't have been the only one who found that "thing I learned recently" (or however he titled it) mindblowing.
It's more gobsmacking than that:I didn't want to bump this thread back when he filed his first post-vacation article, but...the guy didn't know Hitler was from Austria. Unless I'm crazy, everyone with a high school education knows that. I can't have been the only one who found that "thing I learned recently" (or however he titled it) mindblowing.
No.the best 3-4 defensive end of this generation, Pittsburgh's Aaron Smith
Stunning.1. I think, from what I'm hearing (not from the horse's mouth, but from someone who would know), Brett Favre is being slightly tempted about playing football again. When I say slightly, I mean slightly. I don't think any team is going to come after him now, and I don't think he's going to pursue anything. But I do think if a starter gets hurt or stinks, and the coach has no faith in the backup, Favre is going to get a call. Depending on the team, he might consider returning.
lol boo hoo10. I think these are my non-football thoughts of the week:
a. Think we shouldn't do anything about gun violence in this country? Read this dispatch from Saturday's Pittsburgh Post-Gazette:A woman still grieving the murder of her 12-year-old daughter three years ago lost a son to gun violence Friday and lay in a hospital bed, unable to speak with detectives, herself the victim of a shooting an hour earlier.Those close to Kimberly Wade said she still struggled with the loss of her daughter, Jolesa Barber, whose killing in a hail of gunfire in January 2008 became emblematic of the ravages of gang violence. Ms. Wade, a mother of seven, moved to Koerner Avenue in Perry South, not far from the row house where Jolesa was struck by gunfire meant for her brother.But harm followed her. Police said Ms. Wade, 45, was shot in the stomach while she sat on her porch just after 10 p.m. Thursday, by at least one gunman who riddled her house with bullet holes. A witness told police two young men darted away on foot. An hour later and less than a mile away, her son, Chris Michaux, 19, was shot in the head outside a friend's house on Leland Street."He was outside, crying, saying his mom just got shot," said Kenny Washington, whose house was struck by several rounds and who narrowly escaped injury himself. "I told him to sit down and get himself together. As soon as he got off my porch they lit him up." I'm sick of stories like this getting ignored. We've got to do something to take guns out of the hands of gangs and other young criminals in this country. How many more of those idiotically horrible stories do there need to be on the front page of papers around the country before we do something tangible about gun violence?
b. Go ahead. Send me all the email you want about how stupid I am and how I know nothing about the problem and how I need to stop interfering with the Second Amendment. I welcome your feedback.
It's because he knows it's something dumb to say. We "need to do something tangible about gun violence"? How vague is that? Of course we all WANT to do something about gun violence. If there was a way to radically slash the amount of gun violence in this country with the ease he implies, any reasonable person would. But that's like saying we "need to do something tangible about the economy". Of course we do. But the whole second amendment thing implies he believes the issue is in the legal sale of guns in the US. Personally? I think the far bigger issue is with the illegal arms trade.Aside from the wisdom of his opinion, I found it hilarious that he needed to preemptively act butthurt from all the anticipated emails.
Just a guess but I bet he wanted to say something specific like 'we need increased gun control' but his editors who realize that there are many readers of his who disagree with his opinion wouldnt let him write something so specific and really alienate readers, they just let him do it a little.It's because he knows it's something dumb to say. We "need to do something tangible about gun violence"? How vague is that? Of course we all WANT to do something about gun violence. If there was a way to radically slash the amount of gun violence in this country with the ease he implies, any reasonable person would. But that's like saying we "need to do something tangible about the economy". Of course we do. But the whole second amendment thing implies he believes the issue is in the legal sale of guns in the US. Personally? I think the far bigger issue is with the illegal arms trade.
First, interesting phrasing you chose. Second, I don't appreciate SI.com's senior football writer using column inches to whine that "someone should do something". He's got a powerful perch from which to actually HELP, if he were so inclined. He could have put out the names of lobbying groups or victim's rights organizations or what have you. He could have done SOMETHING. He does something for the USO & troops - he uses his column to raise awareness and aid for several charitable or advocacy organizations.Kudos for the guy sticking to his guns and trying to use his column to do something about this, but while I dont mind reading through his work with the troops, I really dont enjoy reading his soapbox stances even when I agree because I read his articles for the football stuff.
For the 4,524th time: there are the following types of people who play fantasy football:From a strained hammy to an indictment of how we watch football.
In the Texans' 30-7 win over San Francisco Saturday night, 2010 rushing champion Foster hurt his hamstring. Coach Gary Kubiak pronounced him day-to-day, and it's not certain he'll start opening day against Indianapolis.
On Sunday afternoon, Foster, a thoughtful guy who writes poetry and doesn't buy into the idea that famous football players should be seen and spout only cliches, tweeted this: "4 those sincerely concerned I'm doing ok. 4 those worried about ur fantasy tm, u ppl are sick #nfl''
Foster, an MVP-type player in fantasy football, got hurt at the crucial time when some of the estimated 23 million people in this country will be drafting their fantasy teams. Hamstring injuries are unpredictable. A wealthy friend in a $1,000-entry-fee league emailed me Sunday asking whether he should use the third pick in his draft on Foster or steer clear. "Only God knows,'' I emailed back. Foster's injury, basically, threw the year's biggest curveball at a lot of the fantasy drafts in the nation.
I've been asking people in and out of the game about fantasy football this summer. It's just so big, and so odd because of its ability to change rooting habits from teams to individuals. For Kurt Warner, fantasy football actually played a small part in his decision to walk away from the game. "You just get tired of having a good game, and your team winning, and someone coming up to you and saying, 'Nice win. How come you only threw for two touchdowns?' It gets old,'' he said.
Todd Haley, in last week's MMQB column, said he got tired last year of being harangued by fantasy players about how he used his running backs, though the Chiefs had the top-rated running game in the league.
When I was in Houston the other day, I asked Foster his feelings about this national obsession. "It's good for getting the people who aren't normally into football -- they watch the games,'' he said. "But I think it's changing the way people watch the games. They're more interested in stats ... That kind of takes away from the reason we play this game, and that's to get a ring. Don't get me wrong -- I love my fans. I love our fans of the game... But don't get mad at a player because he doesn't perform for your [fantasy] team.''
Seems to me the NFL loves the multiplying numbers of people playing fantasy football. Sunday afternoons and evenings in many homes are spent in man caves, with a laptop out with the fantasy game in real time, and the TV playing either the local game or a bunch of games, or a bunch of touchdown plays. I wonder if more fans in a generation will root for their fantasy teams than the home teams.
I'd love to know how many people buy NFL Sunday Ticket or the Red Zone Channel for fantasy purposes. "Used to be you'd just watch the game for the game,'' Haley said. "Now you've got that crawl on the bottom of the screen with everyone's numbers. I don't know. So much is about the individual now.''
I don't know what's right or wrong. But it's interesting that Arian Foster is ticked off at a tributary of the NFL that is becoming more and more a fixture to the fans of the game.
To a degree I think his hands are tied -- King's contacts through the league (in front offices and locker rooms) are both his stock-in-trade and the most relevant asset he has. Therefore, it's probably hard for him to:PETER KING'S PREDICTIONS
REGULAR SEASON (page 70)
1. Patriots (12–4)
2. Jets (10–6)*
3. Bills (7–9)
4. Dolphins (6–10)
1. Steelers (10–6)
2. Ravens (10–6)*
3. Browns (8–8)
4. Bengals (3–13)
1. Colts (10–6)
2. Texans (9–7)
3. Jaguars (7–9)
4. Titans (6–10)
1. Chargers (11–5)
2. Chiefs (8–8)
3. Raiders (7–9)
4. Broncos (5–11)
1. Eagles (10–6)
2. Cowboys (9–7)
3. Giants (9–7)
4. Redskins (5–11)
1. Packers (11–5)
2. Lions (10–6)*
3. Bears (8–8)
4. Vikings (6–10)
1. Saints (10–6)
2. Falcons (10–6)*
3. Buccaneers (8–8)
4. Panthers (4–12)
1. Rams (9–7)
2. Cardinals (7–9)
3. Seahawks (6–10)
4. 49ers (5–11)
WILD CARD ROUND
Ravens over Colts
Falcons over Rams
Steelers over Jets
Eagles over Lions
Ravens over Patriots
Falcons over Packers
Chagers over Steelers
Saints over Eagles
Chargers over Ravens
Falcons over Saints
Falcons over Chargers
I've paid no attention to football since last season ended, but are the Chargers really capable of running through the AFC? Is Norv turner still their coach?Since PK correctly predicted a Packers-Steelers Super Bowl last season (blind squirrel :: nut, as PK :: picks?) figured I'd post his SI picks for 2011.
(Note: I found these on what I believe to be a freely available SI-affiliated site, which is why I'm posting them in their entirety. I wouldn't have done so otherwise, but will take them down if I was mistaken)
To a degree I think his hands are tied -- King's contacts through the league (in front offices and locker rooms) are both his stock-in-trade and the most relevant asset he has. Therefore, it's probably hard for him to:
1. Predict teams to be really bad, i.e. win less than 6 games
2. Defy the safety of conventional wisdom
As a general point, I can't stand predictions that basically account for no surprises. Other than the Lions (the sexy pick of just about everyone) he goes with conventional wisdom across the board.
He tweeted that he picked them to lose in the playoffs because they hadn't addressed their two main needs, wide receiver and pass rush.I dunno. Like dynomite said, it's a pretty conservative slate.
I guess the one that stands out to me are the Bills. I don't see how they'll improve.
As a Pats homer, I'd also like to see some reasoning why he thinks they'll flunk in the postseason, given that he picked them to win the Superbowl 8 months ago.
It's not a good point. It's a complete misunderstanding of what Pat Tillman likely would have wanted, and what his family likely currently wants. From what I've read (mostly from Jon Krakauer's book) Pat Tillman pointedly refused to allow either the NFL or the government to use him in propaganda efforts during his life. He also repeatedly wrote to his wife, and stated to his brother, that he was disillusioned with how the country responded in light of 9/11. Finally, his family has repeatedly expressed its anger with how Tillman ended up being used as propaganda. He absolutely believed in defending America, but hated all the assorted hoopla that came with it, and died thinking the hoopla part of the equation was the ends, and not the means, of the 9/11 response.GOOD POINT, FRAN. "I noticed one person missing in all the media mentions of NFL ceremonies running up to and during 9/11. Maybe it's because his death, and the ensuing coverup, were so shameful and messy. But he gave up his career -- and his life -- because of 9/11 and because of his sense of honor and duty and idealism. And while everyone was waving flags yesterday and all that, I was hearing him screaming his last words on that ridge in Afghanistan: 'I'm Pat ----ing Tillman!' ''
BELICHICK AND THE HALL OF FAME. "In light of your write-up of Bill Belichick (interesting phrase "he wants the story to be told right"), my armchair-HOF-voter question is this: How much does Spygate impact the question about his worthiness for the Hall? There are certainly theories about how long the videotaping had actually been going on, and of course many people rightly point out that he hasn't won any Super Bowls (and to a lesser extent, fewer playoff games) since Spygate was uncovered. Is there anything comparable in NFL history? Should we just think of it as sign-stealing in baseball? It seems a little more premeditated than sign-stealing, but perhaps not. Do you feel that Belichick's responsibility for Spygate changes the HOF calculation?''-- Aaron; Baltimore
Aaron, it will be a factor in the deliberations over Belichick, I'm sure. It should be. As I often say about the Hall and its voting process, I'm one of 44 voters, and I cannot look into the hearts of the other 43 and pretend to know how any of them feel about this. I know how I feel, and I feel it was a breach of the rules and is significant. But would it prevent me from voting for Belichick if he continues on this path of greatness, being a trendsetter in so many ways in the modern game, with three Super Bowl titles as head coach and two others as a defensive coordinator? No.