Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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As they correctly point out, Shaughnessy uses an incredible amount of "we", "our", and "us", which makes sense since he has decided he's the official voice speaking for all Boston sports fans.
 

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It's also misleading because does it matter? I bet Reiss and Posnanski's columns would be right up there with 'I' and 'me' because they work hard to present the articles they write as opinions grounded in research.
 

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It's also misleading because does it matter? I bet Reiss and Posnanski's columns would be right up there with 'I' and 'me' because they work hard to present the articles they write as opinions grounded in research.
 
...Which Simmons and King decidedly don't do.
 

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The thing that I loved most about living in Boston (and now New York City (Manhattan)) is that it's so easy to drink. The city is smooth but with just the right amount of bitterness. That time I had Boston on tap at New York Beer Restaurant (I was working on a story for MMQB with Tom Brady (who looked easy to drink), Carrot Top, Tom Coughlin (who had just the right amount of bitterness), and the Philly Phanatic (who refused to get off his ATV (even though it was smooth but with just the right amount of bitterness), it was a revelation! It was so smooth but with just the right amount of bitterness.
Weird.
 

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Noticed this doozy from his column yesterday:
 
 
 
And, in what has been a Greg Schiano staple since his Rutgers days, the Buccaneers’ scheme is outdated, unimaginative and too reliant on short plays. The short and intermediate passing game that is so crucial in today’s NFL is essentially nonexistent in Tampa’s system.
 
Don't these two sentences contradict each other?  Are the Bucs running too many short plays or not enough?
 

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6. New England (4-0). Tell me who could have forecast the Pats starting 4-0, including a win over a desperate Falcons team on the road,
 
 
Just sloppy writing.  You know, what he's paid to do? Write?  Yea, he isn't good at it.
 
He also doesn't appear to be aware of the existence of the semicolon.
 
Everything is working. Everything.
 
He threw five interceptions at Buffalo, leading to 13 Buffalo points, and the Ravens lost by three. Not good.
 
 
Oh hey, I always wondered...
 
Since moving to the East Side of Manhattan a couple of years ago...
 
So: As a two-year resident of Manhattan...
 
 
Oh!
 
 
“Aqib Talib was awesome tonight—and will make for a fascinating contract decision for the Patriots, in the wake of the Hernandez affair.”
—@AlbertBreer of NFL Network, after the Patriots’ 30-23 win over Atlanta Sunday night. Talib, a talented cornerback who has been in trouble with the law and his former team (the Bucs), will be a free agent after the season, and the Patriots are thin at cornerback.
 
 
 
Why is this an interesting tweet?  It's not interesting at all; it's shit stirring and a ham-fisted way of mentioning AH.
 
4. I think if I’m Roger Goodell, I’m walking down the hall of the NFL offices sometime very soon to the new-owner-vetting office and asking, “Uh, did we know anything about the looming jillion-dollar judgment against the Wilf family? Or anything about Jimmy Haslam?’’ Read the stuff this week about the Wilfs, who own the Vikings and are in business with the state of Minnesota to build a new stadium, and a real-estate deal partnership gone back … and a judge accusing them of racketeering and ordering them to pay $84.5 million to two aggrieved former partners.
 
 
And what would this accomplish, exactly?  Wilf was convicted not two months ago.  He bought the team in 2005.  There were no charges, much less a judgment, against Wilf when he bought the team.
 
a. Was that the Minnesota Twins on the field in the last couple of weeks, or the New Britain Rock Cats?
 
 
"Hey, I'm Peter King, look at how knowledgeable I am when it comes to minor league teams!"  (Also, Houston was much worse than even the Twins, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that King thinks that they were contracted).
 
f. Sorry. I can’t demonize the retiring Andy Pettitte forever for his one detour into PEDs. I can castigate him for it, and I can always think of it when I think of him. (If it was more than that, I will stand corrected.) But I don’t think of him as a consistent PED user. And so I rather enjoyed watching the last inning of the last game of his life, his first complete game after 167 incomplete ones, Saturday night in Houston. “It’s a shame we gotta get old,’’ he said afterward.
 
 
Here's the funny thing about that, Peter:  he got caught once, and while most players who get caught once never wipe off the stink of PED use, Pettitte's version of the story is taken as gospel.  
 
 
g. Coffeenerdness: Nobody likes a coffee nerd, and so when I started to tell the barista at Starbucks the other day that she was making the macchiato wrong (espresso on the bottom of the cup, with milk on top, which it shouldn’t be), I caught myself and shut up.
 
 
Nobody likes a coffee nerd. Peter King is a coffee nerd.  Ergo, nobody likes Peter King.
 

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After Barack Obama and Iranian president Hassan Rouhani talked Thursday, Rouhani tweeted out some details of their conversation before Iran’s leader departed for home, including Obama saying words to this effect: “I wish you a safe and pleasant journey, and apologize if you’re experiencing the traffic in NYC.”
 
Since moving to the East Side of Manhattan a couple of years ago, United Nations Week (the early-fall week when the General Assembly is in session, and the most famous politicians in the world flood into the east side of the city) has been a revelation. The cops bring steel barricades to all the East Side avenues, and two to four cops spend five days on each corner, directing traffic so a U.N. business-only lane, to the far left on these streets, with barricades to the left and orange cones to the right, stays clear. This way, when a motorcade of Iraqi diplomats or God knows who comes speeding down the streets, the road is clear for them.
 
So: As a two-year resident of Manhattan, I’ve gotten used to walking when the walk signs say walk, and most other times, staying out of the street. It’s for my own good; stories of pedestrians getting plowed over by cabs and cars pop up daily. On Wednesday, I was trying to cross Second Avenue 10 blocks north of the U.N., I saw the white “walk’’ sign lit, and I took a couple of steps into the street.
 
“SIRSIRSIR!!!!” yelled a cop about 10 feet away from me, and I looked up, and here was a motorcade with a New York City cop car driving maybe 30 miles an hour being waved through the intersection …
 
Whoa!
 
So I jumped back onto the sidewalk. It wasn’t that close, really. But as I stood there and the motorcade got waved through, I saw three black Escalades following very, very close to the police car (which didn’t have a siren on). In the third vehicle, the window of the driver’s-side passenger door was down, and a man in what appeared to be brown military fatigues with two hands on some sort of machine gun was inside.
Nice to have the city back this morning.
 
 
It sounds so nice he says it twice!
 
 
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Read the stuff this week about the Wilfs, who own the Vikings and are in business with the state of Minnesota to build a new stadium, and a real-estate deal partnership gone bad … and a judge accusing them of racketeering and ordering them to pay $84.5 million to two aggrieved former partners.
How is someone paid so much money allowed to write such an incoherent sentence?
 

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How is someone paid so much money allowed to write such an incoherent sentence?
 
Right?   He's not a good writer.  I bet he hasn't proof read his own columns for ten years.
 

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drleather2001 said:
 

 
 
Why is this an interesting tweet?  It's not interesting at all; it's shit stirring and a ham-fisted way of mentioning AH.
 
Talib's troubles:
 
Fight with teammates on 2 separate occasions.  That's interesting, right Steve Smith?
 
Simple battery of cab driver from back seat of cab. That's interesting, right Hugh Douglass, Kwame Harris, Jeremy Stevens and about 500 other NFL players?
 
Dropped charges from "assault with gun".   No credible witnesses, no evidence. That's interesting, right AH?
 

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Why is this an interesting tweet?  It's not interesting at all; it's shit stirring and a ham-fisted way of mentioning AH.
 
Yeah, Talib is probably a serial killer.
 

 
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And what would this accomplish, exactly?  Wilf was convicted not two months ago.  He bought the team in 2005.  There were no charges, much less a judgment, against Wilf when he bought the team.
 
Racketeers? In the NFL?
 
Maybe they can put him in charge of selling the 14 team playoff scenario?
 
 
 

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Here's the funny thing about that, Peter:  he got caught once, and while most players who get caught once never wipe off the stink of PED use, Pettitte's version of the story is taken as gospel.  
 
Guy cheated, ratted out his cheater mentor because his wife told him the Bible said to, and then lied in court. This is a total selective whitewash and I don't even care that much about PEDs. If King had just said, "Whatever, I like the guy--it's an emotional game sometimes and my feelings will not always be rational," then at least I could accept it. It's the BS that is silly.
 
 
 

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Nobody likes a coffee nerd. Peter King is a coffee nerd.  Ergo, nobody likes Peter King.
 
He seems to be one of these guys who doesn't really that he's just drinking, as some European critics call it, sugared milk flavored with espresso.
 
You don't see little kids preening like this about their chocolate milk.
 

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I don't think the Tweet was interesting.   As noted, it was Breer (who is not exactly getting along with BB these days) trolling. 
 
I do think that it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the discussions between BB and Kraft on the subject of a Talib extension.  There is probably an interesting little note or story that one could write about that decision for the Pats, and what factors might they be looking at differently in light of the Aaron Hernandez mess, or even whether it would have any impact at all (BB and Kraft both said they would be looking at the way they evaluate players to try to learn from this).  Maybe if someone was well connected with NFL sources he might be able to make a few phone calls and ask some questions about this, maybe even some questions to someone in the Pats front office, on the subject of Aqib Talib, a talented guy playing great for the Pats who has some question marks in his past.  Those questions are unlikely to be answered (by the Pats at least) but you have to try right?  That's what reporters do, right?
 
Nah, it is easier to quote someone else's Tweet without expounding on it.
 

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I don't think the Tweet was interesting.   As noted, it was Breer (who is not exactly getting along with BB these days) trolling. 
 
I do think that it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the discussions between BB and Kraft on the subject of a Talib extension.  There is probably an interesting little note or story that one could write about that decision for the Pats, and what factors might they be looking at differently in light of the Aaron Hernandez mess, or even whether it would have any impact at all (BB and Kraft both said they would be looking at the way they evaluate players to try to learn from this).  Maybe if someone was well connected with NFL sources he might be able to make a few phone calls and ask some questions about this, maybe even some questions to someone in the Pats front office, on the subject of Aqib Talib, a talented guy playing great for the Pats who has some question marks in his past.  Those questions are unlikely to be answered (by the Pats at least) but you have to try right?  That's what reporters do, right?
 
Nah, it is easier to quote someone else's Tweet without expounding on it.
 
 
Thinking about it longer and tabling King's tremendous laziness, King may not have any access to BB at all. In retrospect, King's opening column on his site with Brady told us absolutely nothing about anything.  Sure, Brady mentioned his respect for Manning and how he has moved on from the AH bullshit but there wasn't one piece of new news in that entire craptastic piece.  Further, King's reporting on the whole spygate affair most likely slammed the proverbial door on King's ability to access BB.  When was the last time King reported anything after speaking with BB, even in the offseason?
 

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I don't think the Tweet was interesting.   As noted, it was Breer (who is not exactly getting along with BB these days) trolling. 
 
I do think that it would be interesting to be a fly on the wall in the discussions between BB and Kraft on the subject of a Talib extension.  There is probably an interesting little note or story that one could write about that decision for the Pats, and what factors might they be looking at differently in light of the Aaron Hernandez mess, or even whether it would have any impact at all (BB and Kraft both said they would be looking at the way they evaluate players to try to learn from this).  Maybe if someone was well connected with NFL sources he might be able to make a few phone calls and ask some questions about this, maybe even some questions to someone in the Pats front office, on the subject of Aqib Talib, a talented guy playing great for the Pats who has some question marks in his past.  Those questions are unlikely to be answered (by the Pats at least) but you have to try right?  That's what reporters do, right?
 
Nah, it is easier to quote someone else's Tweet without expounding on it.
 
I get where you're coming from, but the thing is, King has completely missed how the decision would be made from a football perspective. The only thing that matters from a team business perspective is likelihood and severity of a suspension based on off the field conduct. From a moral standpoint, there;s a huge difference, but from a business standpoint, but from the business standpoint, shooting a guy and consecutive failed drug tests can be pretty similar if they both resulted in year or more long suspensions.
 
It's not intuitive, obviously, but that's why the professional writers who cover the game are supposed to provide the perspective. The severity of Sherm Leaf's crimes don't actually change the risk calculation for the team with respect to other potential problem cases; can't play is can't play.
 

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Nobody likes a coffee nerd. Peter King is a coffee nerd.  Ergo, nobody likes Peter King.
 
 
Dude thinks he's a coffee nerd just because he knows how to make a macchiato?  You get your coffee from fucking Starbucks.  It's mass-produced coffee for people that have the need to feel intellectual.  No wonder he goes there.
 
I'd be more impressed if he talked about going to independent shops or understood the actual roasting process or how to properly grind and tamp to pull a proper shot.  Not how to fucking pour milk over coffee.  He thinks just because he goes to fucking Starbucks and Peet's that he's some kind of coffee aficionado.  
 
I mean, can you really be a coffee nerd when you NEVER MAKE YOUR OWN COFFEE??
 

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This way, when a motorcade of Iraqi diplomats or God knows who comes speeding down the streets, the road is clear for them.
 
 
Veiled racism?
 

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f. Sorry. I can’t demonize the retiring Andy Pettitte forever for his one detour into PEDs. I can castigate him for it, and I can always think of it when I think of him. (If it was more than that, I will stand corrected.) But I don’t think of him as a consistent PED user. And so I rather enjoyed watching the last inning of the last game of his life, his first complete game after 167 incomplete ones, Saturday night in Houston. “It’s a shame we gotta get old,’’ he said afterward.
 
 
Why are writers like King and Cafardo so quick to exonerate Andy Pettitte? And How does King know that Pettitte only did PEDs once? It's amazing to me how quickly these people throw out all of their PED anger and moral objectives when it comes to a guy that they like.
 
And you know what, that's okay. We as fans do this all the time. I have no problems with Manny or (allegedly) Ortiz or any of the other Red Sox that took PEDs because they're on my team. And yes, I hated Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and the rest of the Yankees who roided up because they were Yankees and screw them. But I admit the hypocrisy, I don't understand why writers can't do the same. Do they think it makes them look less objective? Do they think that it makes them look weak or fan boys? Because their writing belies the fact that they aren't objective and that they're fan boys.
 
This is precisely the problem of American sports writing in the early 21st century, the writers have an increased self-importance that isn't earned. They can't check their team allegiances at the door, but they can't do so with player allegiances. That's okay, the writers aren't robots. But they like to pretend they do ("You know, I just call it like I see it.") and that's why we have a subforum dedicated their idiocy. They think that they're pulling one over on us ("WE're object, YOU're fans"; "WE know the real scoop, YOU don't), but they're not. They may know 10% more than the fan (this is being generous BTW and most of that is gossip) but their information isn't anything a perceptive fan couldn't glean by watching the games.
 

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Wait, does King think a macchiato is made with milk foam on the bottom and espresso added on top?  
 
Coffee nerd, my ass.
 

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So: As a two-year resident of Manhattan, I’ve gotten used to walking when the walk signs say walk, and most other times, staying out of the street. It’s for my own good; stories of pedestrians getting plowed over by cabs and cars pop up daily. On Wednesday, I was trying to cross Second Avenue 10 blocks north of the U.N., I saw the white “walk’’ sign lit, and I took a couple of steps into the street.
 
PK is totally, completely wrong about this.  The easy way to spot tourists in NYC is to look for the people who wait for the light to change before crossing the street.  The locals never wait and constantly jaywalk.  And I don't read the Post or watch the local news, but I'm not aware of "daily" stories about people getting plowed over by cabs.  I did a quick search on the Post's website, and there was one story from a few months ago about a tourist getting hit.  Nothing at all like "daily".  
 
The irony here is that PK is trying to signal that he's an awesome, sophisticated NYC local ("let me tell you country bumpkins a story about what it's like living in the big bad city"). and he's inadvertently highlighting that he's really just a pretentious poseur.
 

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To be fair, I often waiting for the Walk sign when I lived/worked in NYC, usually because I was listening to earphones and didn't want to be bothered being cautious.
 
That being said, if I was crossing an obviously empty street, yea, I'd jaywalk.
 

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Why are writers like King and Cafardo so quick to exonerate Andy Pettitte? And How does King know that Pettitte only did PEDs once? It's amazing to me how quickly these people throw out all of their PED anger and moral objectives when it comes to a guy that they like.
 
And you know what, that's okay. We as fans do this all the time. I have no problems with Manny or (allegedly) Ortiz or any of the other Red Sox that took PEDs because they're on my team. And yes, I hated Jason Giambi, Gary Sheffield and the rest of the Yankees who roided up because they were Yankees and screw them. But I admit the hypocrisy, I don't understand why writers can't do the same. Do they think it makes them look less objective? Do they think that it makes them look weak or fan boys? Because their writing belies the fact that they aren't objective and that they're fan boys.
 
This is precisely the problem of American sports writing in the early 21st century, the writers have an increased self-importance that isn't earned. They can't check their team allegiances at the door, but they can't do so with player allegiances. That's okay, the writers aren't robots. But they like to pretend they do ("You know, I just call it like I see it.") and that's why we have a subforum dedicated their idiocy. They think that they're pulling one over on us ("WE're object, YOU're fans"; "WE know the real scoop, YOU don't), but they're not. They may know 10% more than the fan (this is being generous BTW and most of that is gossip) but their information isn't anything a perceptive fan couldn't glean by watching the games.
 
 
His one detour into PEDs... when his abilities were declining and he finally actually needed them to compete.
 
 
Corsi said:
Wait, does King think a macchiato is made with milk foam on the bottom and espresso added on top?  
 
Coffee nerd, my ass.
 
Because he doesn't know that he's actually drinking a macchiato latte.
 

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PK is totally, completely wrong about this.  The easy way to spot tourists in NYC is to look for the people who wait for the light to change before crossing the street.  The locals never wait and constantly jaywalk.  And I don't read the Post or watch the local news, but I'm not aware of "daily" stories about people getting plowed over by cabs.  I did a quick search on the Post's website, and there was one story from a few months ago about a tourist getting hit.  Nothing at all like "daily".  
 
The irony here is that PK is trying to signal that he's an awesome, sophisticated NYC local ("let me tell you country bumpkins a story about what it's like living in the big bad city"). and he's inadvertently highlighting that he's really just a pretentious poseur.
On Wednesday, I was trying to cross Second Avenue 10 blocks north of the U.N., I saw the white “walk’’ sign lit, and I took a couple of steps into the street.
 
 
With the UN between 1st ave and the river, isn't Crossing 2nd Av "10 blocks north of the UN" something of a useless / self-aggrandizing non-sequitur.   But I guess it would have sounded less regal if he had said, "crossing 2nd ave and 53rd street"
 
And if this is accurate, then he's cranky because he was interrupted by an emergency vehicle:
 
 
These streets will have one traffic lane dedicated to emergency vehicles for the duration of the General Assembly:
 
42nd Street from First Avenue to Fifth Avenue
57th Street from Second Avenue to Fifth Avenue
Second Avenue from 41st Street to 57th Street
 
http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Street-Closure-Traffic-Change-United-Nations-General-Assembly-Delay-New-York-City-Midtown-224846772.html
 

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After Barack Obama and Iranian president Hassan Rouhani talked Thursday, Rouhani tweeted out some details of their conversation before Iran’s leader departed for home, including Obama saying words to this effect: “I wish you a safe and pleasant journey, and apologize if you’re experiencing the traffic in NYC.”
 
...
 
I saw three black Escalades following very, very close to the police car (which didn’t have a siren on). In the third vehicle, the window of the driver’s-side passenger door was down, and a man in what appeared to be brown military fatigues with two hands on some sort of machine gun was inside.
Nice to have the city back this morning
 
So much build up for zero pay off.  I'd imagine that PK is the type of person that if you spend a day around him you get to hear him recount all his boring anecdotes of the day to any poor schlub within ear shot.
 
"Even for us Manhattenites the traffic can be pretty crazy sometimes."
 
"Pardon me?"
 
"Yeah I almost got hit on the way to work today.  Just when a fella thinks he's got the basic rules the crosswalk down-- pow!  curveball from left field..." (drone) (drone) (drone)
 

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Ninety minutes after the 52-20 victory over Philadelphia, I told one of the four musketeers Manning uses as his weapons, wide receiver Eric Decker, about the no-third-down thing. He paused for three or four seconds, taking it in, then said: “That is crazy. Crazy. But our mentality is to convert everything. First down, second down, first down, touchdown.’’​
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Another pause. “I have to say, hearing that is really rewarding,’’ Decker said.​
 
 
LOOK AT ME.  He may be a pro footbal player. But I told him something "rewarding."  Pretty neat trick, Decker didn't even realize that King was using Decker's tongue to fellate King.
 
 
 
On Dungy's HOF-ness:
So does racial pioneering matter, and should it count toward election? The bylaws of the Hall say, “The only criteria for election to the Pro Football Hall of Fame are a nominee’s achievements and contributions as a player, coach, or contributor in professional football in the United States of America.” Nothing is said about being a pioneer. So it will be left to the interpretation of the voters. But my interpretation will be that the pioneer aspect of the job should matter. Inspiring, encouraging and being a role model for African-American coaches (and, quite frankly, coaches in general and football coaches in particular) is part of Dungy’s contribution to the game, and I will speak up about that subject in the Hall of Fame selection meeting on Feb. 1 in New York.
 
 
He gives himself another tongue bath for an interpretation of English ("pioneer" = "contributions") that is likely shared by 103% of voters. (not saying they all agree on Dungy, just that no sentient human would say "Yes, he's a pioneer, but his pioneering does not fit within "contribution.") 
 
 
 
11. Tennessee (3-1). Catholics all over central Tennessee light candles for the health of Jake Locker’s hip. 
 
 
The Catholics might prefer Ryan Fitzpatrick.
 
And the Jews don't give a shit?
 

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Thinking about it longer and tabling King's tremendous laziness, King may not have any access to BB at all. In retrospect, King's opening column on his site with Brady told us absolutely nothing about anything.  Sure, Brady mentioned his respect for Manning and how he has moved on from the AH bullshit but there wasn't one piece of new news in that entire craptastic piece.  Further, King's reporting on the whole spygate affair most likely slammed the proverbial door on King's ability to access BB.  When was the last time King reported anything after speaking with BB, even in the offseason?
 
I would love to see an interaction between Belichick and Mr. Lazypants.  If King asks Belichick a question, does the coach just give him a silent death stare until King walks away? 
 

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I would love to see an interaction between Belichick and Mr. Lazypants.  If King asks Belichick a question, does the coach just give him a silent death stare until King walks away? 
 
"Pete, it's beer . . . it's cold . . . it's wet. Sometimes it comes in a bottle; sometimes in a can.  I dont get involved in the other stuff.  I leave it up to the brewers to tell me when its ready.  When they do, I drink it. We dont talk about the beers that aren't ready to be drunk.  When they're ready, we'll try to figure out the best way to drink them."
 

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He did spend a huge portion of the summer traveling, eating crap from restaurants, drinking 5 starbucks specialty coffees a day and drinking insane amounts of beer. 
 
How much exercise do you think he got?
 

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He did spend a huge portion of the summer traveling, eating crap from restaurants, drinking 5 starbucks specialty coffees a day and drinking insane amounts of beer. 
 
How much exercise do you think he got?
 
He hasn't talked about running lately, which of course means he hasn't been running at all. 
 
He does look like a prime candidate for a heart attack.
 

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PK is totally, completely wrong about this.  The easy way to spot tourists in NYC is to look for the people who wait for the light to change before crossing the street.  The locals never wait and constantly jaywalk.  And I don't read the Post or watch the local news, but I'm not aware of "daily" stories about people getting plowed over by cabs.  I did a quick search on the Post's website, and there was one story from a few months ago about a tourist getting hit.  Nothing at all like "daily".  
 
The irony here is that PK is trying to signal that he's an awesome, sophisticated NYC local ("let me tell you country bumpkins a story about what it's like living in the big bad city"). and he's inadvertently highlighting that he's really just a pretentious poseur.
 
100% correct.  I've lived here for a decade and sometimes wonder why you never hear about cabs hitting people.  He is a fucking moron.
 
f. Sorry. I can’t demonize the retiring Andy Pettitte forever for his one detour into PEDs. I can castigate him for it, and I can always think of it when I think of him. (If it was more than that, I will stand corrected.) But I don’t think of him as a consistent PED user. And so I rather enjoyed watching the last inning of the last game of his life, his first complete game after 167 incomplete ones, Saturday night in Houston. “It’s a shame we gotta get old,’’ he said afterward.
 
 
Fuck him forever for this.  Fuck him for being an idiot, and fuck him for this forced Sox fan magnanimity great-guy bullshit.
 

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You know what, I have no problem with him wearing hats or jerseys of teams other than the Sox. But Jesus man, get a brim on that cap. You look like an asshole.