Why Do I Continue to Read Peter King?

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Looks like you can make it, even if you sucked in athletics when in high school.
 

A.  A candidate for the Hall of Fame must:
          1.Now, or at one point of time, have been a resident of Enfield or have a clearly defined link to the town.
          2.Currently or have been involved in competitive athletics as a player, coach, working professional, and/or 
             volunteer at the professional or community level.
          3.Have made a significant recognizable positive impact in his/her field and/or level of participation.
          4.Display or have displayed integrity, character in a leadership role or as a positive role model for others to emulate.
          5.Candidate's high school class must have graduated 15 years ago from be eligible.
 
 
Figured he'd have been disqualified for #4 though.
 

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https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/529736411537494017
https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/529737726992859137
 

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Exactly how many elections has he witnessed at this polling place in his three years living in Manhattan?  I guess there were primaries, but c'mon.
 
Well, a Presidential election 2 years ago. But is he saying there are more voting this time?
 

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Regardless:  King's implying that people are voting in larger numbers today than they were in 2012, and he's basing that conclusion on the number of people he observed there at 2:30 today, vs. God Knows what time he voted in 2012 (if he voted at all!). 
 
Another thing: a literal reading of his tweet is that it's more crowded at the school (the polling place) than it has been in the three years he's lived there (even when it was just being used as a school). Which, you know, makes sense, especially if this is the first year it's being used as a polling place.
 

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Aren't 8:00 miles still the dividing line between "running" and "jogging"? They were back when I ran track and cross-country in high school.
 
Also, re: that Southern Tier Pumpking: I think that brewery has some okay beers, and as a former resident of that part of the world I'm glad the brewery's successful. I recently bought a Pumpking out of idle curiosity. It was even worse than I imagined it would be, and I drain-poured it. But before I did that, I splashed 2-3 tbsps' worth in my dog's dish -- like all dogs, she loves beer, and I thought I'd give her a tiny taste. But she licked the Pumpking once and then ignored it.
 

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Also, re: that Southern Tier Pumpking: I think that brewery has some okay beers, and as a former resident of that part of the world I'm glad the brewery's successful. I recently bought a Pumpking out of idle curiosity. It was even worse than I imagined it would be, and I drain-poured it. But before I did that, I splashed 2-3 tbsps' worth in my dog's dish -- like all dogs, she loves beer, and I thought I'd give her a tiny taste. But she licked the Pumpking once and then ignored it.
 
I'll admit that I enjoy a pumpkin beer here and there, but Pumking is pretty disgusting.
 
The closest thing to drinking Pumking is taking a swig of vanilla extract.  It's pretty much the same thing.  You feel like you just drank the liquid in a vanilla Glade plug-in.
 

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fawstahcu said:
 
I'll admit that I enjoy a pumpkin beer here and there, but Pumking is pretty disgusting.
 
The closest thing to drinking Pumking is taking a swig of vanilla extract.  It's pretty much the same thing.  You feel like you just drank the liquid in a vanilla Glade plug-in.
 
Folks -- the worst thing we can do is start doing our own beernerdness column in this thread. Irony level is off the charts.
 
Also, I like the Pumking. The pumpkin taste is weird and interesting.
 

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That has more to do with the state of high school soccer in 1974 than anything else. 
 
In case that's not pointed enough, I'll just say that with rare exceptions, high school soccer circa 1974 soccer was a sport that basically took all the rejects from the football team.  King sounds like one of the rejects.
As a soccer player in the Bay State League in that era, I would regretfully have to for the most part agree.     
 
Most schools had kids that didn't play soccer until high school, quite a few defects from football*.       The exceptions seemed to be Needham, Wellesley and Braintree which started youth programs a good 5 years before anyone else.       
 
 
* including me.     Funny thing is, however, if you looked at our group a decade later vis-a-vis the football guys we ended up being better athletes, which we certainly weren't at the time.
 

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Did you hear about Boston Sports Media?
 
Dead.
 
Server was having big time problems, so server replaced.   New server seemed fine but the board passed away suddenly last night.    
 

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Did you hear about Boston Sports Media?
 
Dead.
 
Server was having big time problems, so server replaced.   New server seemed fine but the board passed away suddenly last night.    
1. What are you talking about? The site loads fine for me right now.
 
2. Why would you post this in the Peter King thread?
 

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It's clearly a reference to PK relishing the opportunity to inform a stranger of Robin Williams' death, though it seems a bit forced. B-
 

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am_dial said:
Aren't 8:00 miles still the dividing line between "running" and "jogging"? They were back when I ran track and cross-country in high school.
 
 
 
It's  not going to win his age group at a road race or anything like that, but it's a pretty nice accomplishment for a guy in his late 50s who is relatively new to running and doesn't appear to be naturally built for it.
 

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Fishy1 said:
 
Folks -- the worst thing we can do is start doing our own beernerdness column in this thread. Irony level is off the charts.
 
Also, I like the Pumking. The pumpkin taste is weird and interesting.
 
You're right -- sorry. I was just suggesting that my dog has better taste in beer than Peter King. But that's probably evident to anyone who reads his columns.
 

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It's  not going to win his age group at a road race or anything like that, but it's a pretty nice accomplishment for a guy in his late 50s who is relatively new to running and doesn't appear to be naturally built for it.
 
It's a meaningless distinction that only people with sticks up their ass about "respecting the sport" and crap like that make.    The same sort of people say that folks who can't run a 4:00:00 marathon are "ruining the sport" for the rest of them.   
 
Running a 5K at 8 min/mile is a perfectly respectable accomplishment for a non-serious runner.   It would place a person in the top half of finishers in almost every 5K in the country, even if you exclude the dedicated walkers.  So, you know, whatever.  Good for him. 
 
That being said:  it's nothing to brag about, especially when that time is on a treadmill.  
 

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It's a meaningless distinction that only people with sticks up their ass about "respecting the sport" and crap like that make.    The same sort of people say that folks who can't run a 4:00:00 marathon are "ruining the sport" for the rest of them.   
 
Running a 5K at 8 min/mile is a perfectly respectable accomplishment for a non-serious runner.   It would place a person in the top half of finishers in almost every 5K in the country, even if you exclude the dedicated walkers.  So, you know, whatever.  Good for him. 
 
That being said:  it's nothing to brag about, especially when that time is on a treadmill.  
 
Plus, how much do you want to bet that he took a two-minute water break halfway through his treadmill 5K but decided that shouldn't count against his time?
 

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It's a meaningless distinction that only people with sticks up their ass about "respecting the sport" and crap like that make.    The same sort of people say that folks who can't run a 4:00:00 marathon are "ruining the sport" for the rest of them.   
 
Running a 5K at 8 min/mile is a perfectly respectable accomplishment for a non-serious runner.   It would place a person in the top half of finishers in almost every 5K in the country, even if you exclude the dedicated walkers.  So, you know, whatever.  Good for him. 
 
That being said:  it's nothing to brag about, especially when that time is on a treadmill.  
 
I haven't been a competitive runner since the '80s, haven't run at all in ten years, and have zero interest in arguments about respecting the sport (nor am I in any way current on what these arguments may entail). Nor do I have a stick up my ass. My entire point was that running four 8:00 miles on a treadmill seems hardly worth alerting his readership about, whatever his build or age, because as an "accomplishment" it's not saying much.
 
If our sense of what the words "respectable" and "accomplishment" mean has diminished to the point that a late middle-aged man running the equivalent of four miles indoors in a little over half an hour qualifies as either, then I weep for our language and our physiques. But sure, let King award himself a gold star for his workout. Better he run for half an hour than not, of course. But the statisizing of utterly ordinary workouts -- and the desire for glory thereby -- strikes me as pretty sad.
 
I'll go back to lurking in this thread. I like it much better when you guys just mock Peter King.
 

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I haven't been a competitive runner since the '80s, haven't run at all in ten years, and have zero interest in arguments about respecting the sport (nor am I in any way current on what these arguments may entail). Nor do I have a stick up my ass. My entire point was that running four 8:00 miles on a treadmill seems hardly worth alerting his readership about, whatever his build or age, because as an "accomplishment" it's not saying much.
 
 
I wasn't really directing my point at you, as you weren't really making the case that King was "jogging" vs. "running" so much as asking if that distinction existed.   So, really, we appear to agree, which you'd have noticed if you read my entire post and not just the part that unnecessarily tightened your bunghole.
 
If our sense of what the words "respectable" and "accomplishment" mean has diminished to the point that a late middle-aged man running the equivalent of four miles indoors in a little over half an hour qualifies as either, then I weep for our language and our physiques. But sure, let King award himself a gold star for his workout. Better he run for half an hour than not, of course. But the statisizing of utterly ordinary workouts -- and the desire for glory thereby -- strikes me as pretty sad.
 
 
["Chariots of Fire" theme begins playing, faintly, in the background]
 
Hey, everyone, it's a Real Runner!
 
I bet you're fast.  Are you fast? You sound fast.   Someone who finds a 50-something man running 4 miles at 8/min per as less than respectable must be one fast, fit, motherfucker.  You are an impressive specimen.
 
According to the Runners World age grading calculator, King's stated time, and age of 57, places him at 63.46% of all ages, and would be the equivalent of a 25 year old running 4 miles in 26:33.  That's 6:35/min miles.   A 35 year old male would have to run 4 miles in 27:00 (6:45/mile) to be considered of equivalent fitness.  
 
A) That's pretty fucking respectable.
B) Getting old sucks. 
 
I'll go back to lurking in this thread. I like it much better when you guys just mock Peter King.
 
 
I like mocking King too, but what you're doing is mocking lots of people, of which King is one, that don't meet your personal definition of "runner" based on a totally arbitrary cutoff.  
 
And, ya, I agree that King probably fudged those figures.  
 

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This tweet encapsulates the prolifically mundane Peter King:
 
https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/492496215196860416
 
In his warped mind, improving his time on the treadmill is important, and due to his arrogance and delusions, he believes that his readers must know.  He truly believes that we tune in every Monday to see if he knocked a few seconds off his pace.
 
I mean, that advice?  It sucks.  There's nothing wrong with treating writing as a craft and giving it the respect and attention it deserves, but every story is most certainly not the most important story of your life.  That's such a meaningless platitude.  Have a freaking filter.  But this of course explains why we're served a 10,000-word pile of crap every Monday morning.
 

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Apparently spelling isn't very important to being a writer, however.
 

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I'm only a bit younger than King and doubt I could do an 8-minute mile, much less several of them. That said, he *didn't* include the mention to try and inspire lazies like me to exercise more.  The follow up to this would be for him to tell us what kind of suntan lotion he uses at training camp, NOT as a warning against melanoma, but to talk about his great tan.
 
*That's* why it sucks.
 

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Corsi said:
This tweet encapsulates the prolifically mundane Peter King:
 
https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/492496215196860416
 
In his warped mind, improving his time on the treadmill is important, and due to his arrogance and delusions, he believes that his readers must know.  He truly believes that we tune in every Monday to see if he knocked a few seconds off his pace.
 
I mean, that advice?  It sucks.  There's nothing wrong with treating writing as a craft and giving it the respect and attention it deserves, but every story is most certainly not the most important story of your life.  That's such a meaningless platitude.  Have a freaking filter.  But this of course explains why we're served a 10,000-word pile of crap every Monday morning.
 
His response has absolutely nothing to do with writing or being a writer, too. He's just saying "work hard" in a way dumb people *might* (depending on the dumb person) find profound.
 

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"Every story is the most important story of your life" should mean that, as a professional writer, you treat everything you publish with respect for the craft of writing and with care towards properly communicating the 'truth' of each of the stories you publish.

It should NOT mean that, as a writer, every half-thought-out opinion or idea that flitters through your fat skull is worthy of being published.
 

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"Every story is the most important story of your life" should mean that, as a professional writer, you treat everything you publish with respect for the craft of writing and with care towards properly communicating the 'truth' of each of the stories you publish.

It should NOT mean that, as a writer, every half-thought-out opinion or idea that flitters through your fat skull is worthy of being published.
 
To think that he believes he is applying even the former standard is, quite frankly, terrifying.
 

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Most mornings when I am home, I walk out of my apartment on the east side of Manhattan and head over to a bodega a block away and buy the New York Post and New York Daily News. (We get the New York Times and Wall Street Journal home-delivered.) 
 

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8. The best rookie in football was the 91st pick by Arizona in the May draft, played for a college team with the nickname “Gorillas,” and caught the winning touchdown pass in the last eight minutes against San Diego, Philadelphia, and, on Sunday, St. Louis. John Brown of Pittsburg (Kans.) State, you’re the man.
OK, this is getting creepy now.
 

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There are 16 rookie WRs with at least 20 targets.  Of those, John Brown is:
 
7th in targets
10th in receptions
8th in yards
8th in yards/catch
10th in yards/game
15th in catch%
 
The only stat where he looks any good is his 5 TDs, trailing only Martavis Bryant's 6.  But Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins and Kelvin Benjamin all also have 5 TDs and all have been unquestionably better than Brown this season.  Then there's a guy like Beckham who has been clearly better, although in fewer games.
 
It's stretching it to call him a top 5 rookie receiver.  To call him the best rookie in football is mind-bogglingly stupid.
 

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There are 16 rookie WRs with at least 20 targets.  Of those, John Brown is:
 
7th in targets
10th in receptions
8th in yards
8th in yards/catch
10th in yards/game
15th in catch%
 
The only stat where he looks any good is his 5 TDs, trailing only Martavis Bryant's 6.  But Mike Evans, Sammy Watkins and Kelvin Benjamin all also have 5 TDs and all have been unquestionably better than Brown this season.  Then there's a guy like Beckham who has been clearly better, although in fewer games.
 
It's stretching it to call him a top 5 rookie receiver.  To call him the best rookie in football is mind-bogglingly stupid.
 
No fair...you looked thing up.
 

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While I like the idea of getting an unsung rookie some ink and perhaps even using some embellishment in praising him... this is full on support and belief. This is not a nice gesture, but rather advocacy given the repetition and conviction of the statements.
 
That moves away from a one-off highlighting to an area where more scrutiny is warranted. Based on what he has typed the "game winning" nature of his TDs appears to be a significant factor. Probably giving him access or complimenting him or his home town/school is the driving force, but he's not typing that.
 
It's a bizarre use of the pulpit to abandon vagueness for something that is so firmly wrong in a factual sense. And it's a weird way to cheapen the accomplishments of the other WRs in this class. Imagine if he simply said unsung or something similar. People in this thread would not quote it or might highlight it as a nice use of his article.
 

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It's probably because there are two J. Browns playing WR on Arizona; John and Jaron.
 
"This Brown guy is everywhere!!!" - PK
 

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It's sad that he made this Brown comment this week, because it's eclipsed his amazing newspaper comment, which reeks of Manhattan and privilege (and his ability to walk)
 

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It's sad that he made this Brown comment this week, because it's eclipsed his amazing newspaper comment, which reeks of Manhattan and privilege (and his ability to walk)
 
It's kind of funny, because he didn't even say the dumbest thing in his own column this week. I give that to Simms. If you want to argue for Luck or Rodgers over Manning and Brady, I may disagree, but there's a case to be made there. But putting Roethlisberger and Russell Wilson over both Manning and Brady was... yikes.
 
*edit*
I take that back. King referring to the Jets as having an "oppressive" defense could take that spot. It's like he completely missed every week before this one.
 

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Why indeed do I read it? I feel fatter, stupider and less informed than if had spent the time plucking lint out of my belly button.
 
This has truly because the stereotype, week to week attention chasing drivel with as much wrong as right and endless hero worship.
I did, however, enough cark as mark with a c on a coffee cup. That's funny. But the funniest thing about the column was a) non football related and b) not written by him
 

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I can't be reading this right...he has Vick as his Offensive Player of the Week, and the best thing about his play was no fumbles lost...no fumbles period.

In the Things he Didn't Like...how the refs messed up by not overturning a clear fumble by Vick and the Steelers got screwed.
 

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I love the way he uses "if the season ended today" to demonstrate some teams are unexpectedly good this season.mwhy not just run the standings as of right now? Because we can look at standings on our own and see what he so perfectly explains when he says the Packers wouldn't be in the playoffs?

If the season ended today, 32 teams would freak out and wonder why they were losing all the money from all the remaining games on the schedule. There would be massive lawsuits from both players and owners. The least important thing would be which teams make the playoffs (which would be played in November in King's world?).
 

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I had to drive from Manhattan to Boston on Thursday morning for a breakfast meeting. It’s about 208 miles from point to point. I left Manhattan at 4:50 a.m., sharp. Stopped once, briefly—at a drive-thru Starbucks on the Merritt Parkway in Woodbridge (near New Haven),
 
Not that accuracy is all that important, but it's not really *on* the Parkway.  And that far East/North, it's no longer the Merritt; it's the Wilbur Cross.
 
 
Andy Dalton is the anti-Brown. He will shit on Dalton *every* opportunity he gets.  And when Dalton plays well, it's "wait til the playoffs" (where, apparently unbeknownst to King, Dalton's numbers are identical to P.Manning's first 3 playoff games).
 

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If the season ended today, 32 teams would freak out and wonder why they were losing all the money from all the remaining games on the schedule. There would be massive lawsuits from both players and owners. The least important thing would be which teams make the playoffs (which would be played in November in King's world?).
 
 
That's a solid use of an old Norm McDonald* SNL routine. Well done. 
 
*It could have been Kevin Nealon too, I can't remember. But if it was Nealon it was the one good Weekend Update joke he ever did. 
 

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It's probably because there are two J. Browns playing WR on Arizona; John and Jaron.
 
"This Brown guy is everywhere!!!" - PK
 
Honestly, I would not be surprised in the least if that's what happened initially.  Like, he watched one game and thought it was one guy and just never really corrected himself.
 

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e. Do these Navy SEALS take a vow of silence about what they do on their missions? If so, what kind of people trained to do some of the most important work our country can do break that vow and go yapping for money, as these apparent bin Laden triggermen are doing?
 
Yeah, fuck those navy SEALS--what have they ever done for us!
 

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Corsi said:
 
Most mornings when I am home, I walk out of my apartment on the east side of Manhattan and head over to a bodega a block away and buy the New York Post and New York Daily News. (We get the New York Times and Wall Street Journal home-delivered.) 
 
 
This HAS to be a parody. Come on!