He thought he was trying to sack James HarrisonHe didn't realize he had the ball
He didn't launch himself into Moore, he didn't leave his feet . But he was running full speed at a moving object. I'm not sure what Dupree was supposed to do differently. is he supposed to slow down before he hits Moore to double make sure that he misses his chin? That's not a reasonable expectation.
Look if he left his feet and launched himself like a missile then I'd agree that it was dirty. But when two large people are running full speed like that then sometimes helmets are going to hit Chins or other helmets. I don't know what you could reasonably expect the defender to do different, Unless you want the defender to slow down or go for the knees. I wouldn't define either of those as reasonable.
All due respect, these posts are insane and really epitomize the problem. Is he "supposed to slow down"? um...yes. Slow down and go lower, that is, um...yes, "humanly possible." The reason guys don't do it is because of perspectives like yours that implicitly say they shouldn't. I'll give an analogy from another sport: a basketball player who on a drive to the basket charges over a stationary defender and gets called for a charge is called "out of control" and blamed for playing the game stupidly. No one asks how you could possibly expect him to slow down or be a "contortionist." To flip your defense, the idea that an NFL player doesn't have the athleticism to control his body is insane. Dupree could have easily slowed down/gone lower.The guys that play in the NFL are amazing athletes. But people's expectations for their ability to contort their bodies while running at full speed to hit another person running and moving at full speed are just not reasonable. Would it have been better if Dupree hit him in the chest with a shoulder? Yes it would. Do I think it's humanly possible to expect that to happen at full speed 100% of the time? Absolutely not. These guys arnt contortionists moving in slow motion.
Hits like that are unfortunate but will always be part of the game if it is played at full speed.
Exactly. I feel like you could run a car on his blood.Harrison's drug dealer needs a nobel prize.
Not on Moore. He had everyone accounted for in his blind side. Albert misread Harrison who faked dropping into coverage and then rushed. Albert helped inside instead of taking the end.How does Moore not get rid of that?
He dropped into a coverage look right before the snap and came with a deep blitz. Nicely designed play.I mean, why block James Harrison?
Great Seinfeld episode.Exactly. I feel like you could run a car on his blood.
In fairness, half of us could have made that sack.Exactly. I feel like you could run a car on his blood.
He saw Harrison coming at him. That's why he started running to his right. He thought he could outrun Harrison and he was wrong. Terribly wrong.Not on Moore. He had everyone accounted for in his blind side. Albert misread Harrison who faked dropping into coverage and then rushed. Albert helped inside instead of taking the end.
And sexual assault by the QB is old school dating.I feel like the Steelers get away with being a dirty team because people just excuse it as "That's tough Steeler football."
The free rusher is obviously not on Moore but once Moore saw him he had to throw the ball away, or turtle and take the sack. Can't try to outrun Harrison who is coming at full speed, and he was careless holding the ball the way he was when he was running.Not on Moore. He had everyone accounted for in his blind side. Albert misread Harrison who faked dropping into coverage and then rushed. Albert helped inside instead of taking the end.
Once Moore sees the rusher coming unblocked it is completely on him to get rid of the ball.Not on Moore. He had everyone accounted for in his blind side. Albert misread Harrison who faked dropping into coverage and then rushed. Albert helped inside instead of taking the end.
Although he held the ball too long
And a coach tripping a player is accidentalAnd sexual assault by the QB is old school dating.
So if Dupree has a player with elite athleticism like Bell lined up for a big hit, slows down and allows the runner to side step him and run for a touchdown, then what? It's a fundamentally different game if it's not played at full speed. Big hits are part of the game and a fun part of the game to watch. It's unfortunate when they involve the head and I salute the league for taking out the most egregious ones ( like the old Brandon Merriweather leave your feet kill shots on a WR). But I just don't have a huge problem with hits like this one. It's one player running into another and it's unfortunate that there was head to chin. I like football for many reasons. Big violent hits are one of them. They aren't ever going to go away completely and nor should they. If hits like this bother people this much then maybe they just shouldn't watch football. There are other options.All due respect, these posts are insane and really epitomize the problem. Is he "supposed to slow down"? um...yes. Slow down and go lower, that is, um...yes, "humanly possible." The reason guys don't do it is because of perspectives like yours that implicitly say they shouldn't. I'll give an analogy from another sport: a basketball player who on a drive to the basket charges over a stationary defender and gets called for a charge is called "out of control" and blamed for playing the game stupidly. No one asks how you could possibly expect him to slow down or be a "contortionist." To flip your defense, the idea that an NFL player doesn't have the athleticism to control his body is insane. Dupree could have easily slowed down/gone lower.
That there is still far too many of these plays is due to attitudes such as yours that tell any player who isn't playing out of control that they're not playing the game right. Players do what refs allow: these calls need to be made more often and penalized more harshly (i.e., toss the offender from the game).
Thank you for your thoughts, straight from 1974.So if Dupree has a player with elite athleticism like Bell lined up for a big hit, slows down and allows the runner to side step him and run for a touchdown, then what? It's a fundamentally different game if it's not played at full speed. Big hits are part of the game and a fun part of the game to watch. It's unfortunate when they involve the head and I salute the league for taking out the most egregious ones ( like the old Brandon Merriweather leave your feet kill shots on a WR). But I just don't have a huge problem with hits like this one. It's one player running into another and it's unfortunate that there was head to chin. I like football for many reasons. Big violent hits are one of them. They aren't ever going to go away completely and nor should they. If hits like this bother people this much then maybe they just shouldn't watch football. There are other options.
That's not a comparable situation. Out of curiosity - what was the highest level you competed at?So if Dupree has a player with elite athleticism like Bell lined up for a big hit, slows down and allows the runner to side step him and run for a touchdown, then what? It's a fundamentally different game if it's not played at full speed. Big hits are part of the game and a fun part of the game to watch. It's unfortunate when they involve the head and I salute the league for taking out the most egregious ones ( like the old Brandon Merriweather leave your feet kill shots on a WR). But I just don't have a huge problem with hits like this one. It's one player running into another and it's unfortunate that there was head to chin. I like football for many reasons. Big violent hits are one of them. They aren't ever going to go away completely and nor should they. If hits like this bother people this much then maybe they just shouldn't watch football. There are other options.
Have you played football or rugby?So if Dupree has a player with elite athleticism like Bell lined up for a big hit, slows down and allows the runner to side step him and run for a touchdown, then what? It's a fundamentally different game if it's not played at full speed. Big hits are part of the game and a fun part of the game to watch. It's unfortunate when they involve the head and I salute the league for taking out the most egregious ones ( like the old Brandon Merriweather leave your feet kill shots on a WR). But I just don't have a huge problem with hits like this one. It's one player running into another and it's unfortunate that there was head to chin. I like football for many reasons. Big violent hits are one of them. They aren't ever going to go away completely and nor should they. If hits like this bother people this much then maybe they just shouldn't watch football. There are other options.
And water is wet.Basically I think we're all in agreement that the Steelers are a bunch of pieces of shit.
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You're a 100% wrong. Much of the game is not played at full speed: 1) look at Bell, whose use of hesitation is sublime; 2) defenders all the time "slow down" in order to make sure a runner doesn't side step them. Attempts to satisfy calls for blood with the "big hit" you want is often bad football, just as Dupree's run at Moore was unnecessary. His "big hit" had no football purpose other than intimidation -- did you miss the part where Moore had already thrown the ball? No one is saying that all violent hits could be eliminated. That you think unnecessary violent hits shouldn't be eliminated is just dumb. To use an analogy, a lot of NHL knuckleheads argue that fighting is an inherent part of the game. Of course, it's not and can be (and has been) eliminated when leagues decide to do so. Hockey is a way better sport played without the dumb fights, just as the beauty of football has zero to do with braindead violence.So if Dupree has a player with elite athleticism like Bell lined up for a big hit, slows down and allows the runner to side step him and run for a touchdown, then what? It's a fundamentally different game if it's not played at full speed. Big hits are part of the game and a fun part of the game to watch. It's unfortunate when they involve the head and I salute the league for taking out the most egregious ones ( like the old Brandon Merriweather leave your feet kill shots on a WR). But I just don't have a huge problem with hits like this one. It's one player running into another and it's unfortunate that there was head to chin. I like football for many reasons. Big violent hits are one of them. They aren't ever going to go away completely and nor should they. If hits like this bother people this much then maybe they just shouldn't watch football. There are other options.
That's P&GGenerally I think people like watching big hits.
Well, did you see the starters in the first game yesterday. Not a high bar.Moore seems like he could be a starter.
Have you been around anyone who's suffered the results of that violence? Either on their bodies or minds? Free will and all, but I'm increasingly thinking there should be a lot of controls.I know it's not a Popular opinion in this echo chamber but I do like the violence in the game and clearly my opinion of what is and is not dirty in a football game is different then this group of people. I'm fine with that. I don't think it makes me or the rest of you right or wrong. It's just how I see it.
I also think that this forum over indexes in the remove anything g that looks scary from the game. Generally I think people like watching big hits.
People are asking, yes I played football in high school nothing after that.
That's why he likes it; it's never going to happen to anyone he cares aboutHave you been around anyone who's suffered the results of that violence? Either on their bodies or minds? Free will and all, but I'm increasingly thinking there should be a lot of controls.
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