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I got the sense that Ime's experience as an NBA player gave him credibility neither Stevens nor Mazzulla could match.
Plus while the players have a much more accurate perspective on Mazzulla than anyone here or in the media, they can still be guilty of making the same mistake that everyone else could potentially be making. That is, it's not always recognized that he was thrust into an impossible situation at the last minute, without adequate support on the bench, and still brought the team to within a game of the NBA finals. I'm hard-pressed to come up with a rookie head coach given a more high pressure situation to start, and he's as likely to improve in year two as any coach in history.
 

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The interview really made you feel that if Udoka could have just kept his dick in his pants the Cs would have won the championship. Grant clearly seems to think that Udoka is a remarkably talented coach.
I know we'll never be able to prove the negative so it's natural that everyone thinks that the Cs would have taken the next step with Ime but remember, the Cs 2nd half run under Ime involved him more or less running TL into the ground. Ime wouldn't have had TL for the 1st half of the season.

That and Al slowing down makes me wonder if the Cs really could have played Ime's switching defense all season.

Too bad we never found out.
 

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The players clearly thought more of Ime than Joe, as you would expect, one was a former player and long-time assistant who they connected with, the other was his very young replacement (also Ime getting "not fired" probably rallied guys to remember him more fondly than perhaps they might have if he'd still been here.

They're also different coaches, different personalities, different focuses. I'd also say.... players usually are not good judges of overall basketball strategy as weird as it sounds. We've seen it time and again, what players value and what actually produces wins are often not correlated. Also, there are some guy who just associate "he yelled a lot when we screwed up" with good coaching.

I think Ime had a not great start to his time here, had a really nice stretch and closed... solid? Joe had a less up and down year in a lot of ways, even if the results were, he was just kind of meh most of the year, then he made some big mistakes late, adjusted... meh.

I don't think there is a huge difference between the two overall, I think Ime was a bit better in part because he was better prepared, and had a better/deeper staff of his own guys.

Going forward... hard to say.
 

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Before the Mazzulla can do no wrong brigade jumps down my throat, Mazzulla was a 1st year coach without much experience so he will absolutely improve but it seems like Ime captured the locker room in a way Mazzulla didn’t
Is there really a Mazzulla can do no wrong brigade? Thinking he's a good coach is far different than that.
 

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Is there really a Mazzulla can do no wrong brigade? Thinking he's a good coach is far different than that.
Yeah I think there is the "He survived an incredibly difficult situation" that everyone can agree where Ime would have been a better coach for last years team. It's not mutually exclusive at all.
 

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Yeah I think there is the "He survived an incredibly difficult situation" that everyone can agree where Ime would have been a better coach for last years team. It's not mutually exclusive at all.
Agreed---with one or two exceptions almost no one around here really has been on the other side of the above.
 

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