Lutz has been a good kicker for a long time. The wind at that end of the stadium is nutzYou see that guy kicking PATs? I think it was needed.
don’t know about not going for seven. They could have lost on a fg or missed the fg as we saw.Does anyone agree with Denver’s strategy there? Just kick with 20 seconds left. Worked out, but man — that was fucked up.
Buffalo special teams had to rush on the field too. I can see how it happened.I mean, how the fuck do you line up with 12 men and never realize it? It’s one thing if a guy is trying to run off.
How does one of these guys not know he’s not on FG block?
So many questions.
Zach better than both guys I watched tonightI still think that the Bills would be in playoff position with an average quarterback.
It's hilariously bad.The NFL product is borderline unwatchable.
Why did they have to rush on? Doesn’t the ref hold up the snap to allow the D to substitute?Buffalo special teams had to rush on the field too. I can see how it happened.
They had called two timeouts in the last three plays, and everyone knew a FGA was coming on fourth down.Buffalo special teams had to rush on the field too. I can see how it happened.
As a person who isn’t rooting for either team, that end was pretty entertaining. In a haha way.The NFL product is borderline unwatchable.
No. Definitely not the percentage play. If they threw some impossible fade or something on 3rd down they would have been kicking the FG with less than 20 seconds left. Kick takes off five. Squib kickoff for another five. Most the Bills have is two plays. It was too clever by half.Does anyone agree with Denver’s strategy there? Just kick with 20 seconds left. Worked out, but man — that was fucked up.
it’s an excellent product. Most fun sport by a mileAs a person who isn’t rooting for either team, that end was pretty entertaining. In a haha way.
The title of Sean Payton's autobiography... too clever by half.
Since the Pats season is in the toilet it would be good to get a thread on this, with all the good analysis (not coming from me!) as to why this is the case and how to fix it. Feels like the 90s NBA or something when everyone knew the product had been diminished. That turned out OK.The NFL product is borderline unwatchable.
Alternative hypothesis: The product has not been diminishedSince the Pats season is in the toilet it would be good to get a thread on this, with all the good analysis (not coming from me!) as to why this is the case and how to fix it. Feels like the 90s NBA or something when everyone knew the product had been diminished. That turned out OK.
Yup. It’s a game where huge dudes run at each other and collide at high speed. And there’s a weirdly shaped ball, and the most ludicrous scoring rules.it’s an excellent product. Most fun sport by a mile
Right, which is another reason they should have spiked it on the last play before the kickThe part with the refs having to get the kicking ball on to the field was pretty interesting. They did it well, but that could have been a mess if someone bobbles the ball or drops it.
Interesting you bring this up because I thought earlier that watching the oline guys racing tonight for kicking formation was really greatYup. It’s a game where huge dudes run at each other
So, can you spike the ball if the clock is not running before the snap? I think maybe it is intentional grounding. There is an exception from the grounding rule if you spike to save time, but if the clock is already stopped? Legitimately don’t know.Right, which is another reason they should have spiked it on the last play before the kick
Don’t you have to be under pressure to ground it? Need our rules bro because I do not really know.So, can you spike the ball if the clock is not running before the snap? I think maybe it is intentional grounding. There is an exception from the grounding rule if you spike to save time, but if the clock is already stopped? Legitimately don’t know.
I think they’d just roll out the QB in shotgun to throw it OOB if they wanted to approximate a spike while killing clock. You could run 5-6 seconds on this play, too, which would ensure the Bills get one, not two, desperation plays if you get the FG. They’d probably have like 10-11 seconds left after a made FG.So, can you spike the ball if the clock is not running before the snap? I think maybe it is intentional grounding. There is an exception from the grounding rule if you spike to save time, but if the clock is already stopped? Legitimately don’t know.
Manning face meet Allen face.Never change Manning
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Nice. Bills fans can't be too happy with a team that has lost to the Broncos, the Jets, and the Patriots.I still think that the Bills would be in playoff position with an average quarterback.
Could have easily lost to GiantsNice. Bills fans can't be too happy with a team that has lost to the Broncos, the Jets, and the Patriots.
Dunno. There is an express exception in the grounding rule for spiking but maybe you are right that you don’t need an exception with no pressure.Don’t you have to be under pressure to ground it? Need our rules bro because I do not really know.
This should be right up your alleyI can’t see how McDermott survives the season.
It IS FOOTball. Shouldn;t it be decided by a kick?6 games ended on a game winning field goal. This was a really fun week of games.
No matter what happens the rest of the season, the Giants are not getting rid of Daboll. And if the Raiders finish strong, I could see them keeping Pierce, since they already owe so much to ex-coaches and made that mistake before when they dumped Bisaccia.Going to be a lot of head coach openings next year:
Buffalo
Tennessee
Chargers
Raiders
Giants
Green Bay
Atlanta
Carolina
Chicago
The NFL product is borderline unwatchable.
To the "unwatchable" point, with which I agree, *close* is all the NFL cares about. The Pats-Colts game was "burn the tapes" bad, but it was close.6 games ended on a game winning field goal. This was a really fun week of games.
Kincaid is having a good year for a rookie tight end and has a chance to be very good over next few years. But the contract they gave Knox…ouch. We can thank Bill for screwing up the TE market and forcing the Bills to give him 4/$53I think the Bills talent on offense kind of sucks. Diggs is obviously an elite WR but outside of him what do they have. Gabe Davis seems like the ultimate boom-or-bust receiver. He's either invisible or goes off. Then what? Shakir? Deonte Hardy? Cook and the ancient Murray are OK at RB but the team doesn't really commit to the ground game. The TE's are meh.
Put another way, if you take Diggs out, which skill group (at full health) would you prefer, Buffalo's or NE's? I think it's closer than you might think.
Not to go OT but "Mac sucks" could just as easily be "The offense is broken" ... and perhaps should be. But I agree, and again, I do think that was part of Bill's thinking going in to this year.It's too bad Mac sucks because the AFC East is kind of wide open, as the saying goes.