2013 Boston College Football...From A Spaz to a A Dazz

Ed Hillel

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Rettig has a free lane outside, and instead turns right back into the giant crowd in the middle.
 

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That 2nd quarter was pretty much the most embarrassing thing I've ever seen.
 

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That's some excellent coaching there, too. WR behind the defense on the last play of the half.
 

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Apparently BC hasn't implemented any sort of Hail Mary defense. Ball snapped near midfield with 1 second left, and they get a 1 on 1 matchup in the end zone? There should have been 4 DBs waiting back there.

I must have missed the OPI, looked like just a great catch. But maybe I was still in shock at the defensive strategy and overlooked it.
 

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radsoxfan said:
Apparently BC hasn't implemented any sort of Hail Mary defense. Ball snapped near midfield with 1 second left, and they get a 1 on 1 matchup in the end zone? There should have been 4 DBs waiting back there.

I must have missed the OPI, looked like just a great catch. But maybe I was still in shock at the defensive strategy and overlooked it.
 
There was no OPI, it was a great play.
 

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Captaincoop said:
 
There was no OPI, it was a great play.
 
You can't stiff arm a defender before the ball gets there to keep him at a distance, which is exactly what happened.
 
It's the last play of the half, though, so that stuff never gets called. It was terrible defense regardless.
 

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Ed Hillel said:
You can't stiff arm a defender before the ball gets there to keep him at a distance, which is exactly what happened.
 
It's the last play of the half, though, so that stuff never gets called. It was terrible defense regardless.
Saw it again on replay once my shock about the defense subsided. Not remotely close to OPI, regardless of the circumstances.
 

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Saw better punts in central mass high school football last night
 

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A 4 year-old could figure out our offense by now. More importantly, FSU has figured out that they can just play a Madden offense against us
 
nevermind the complex Madden offense...they're running 1993 Sega Tecmo Bowl offense and defense against BC.
 

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Come on, of course they're going to beat Army. Tough to play a team that is as far out of your league as FSU, but I like the effort.
 

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They got their ass kicked last year and army played tough against Stanford. And this team doesn't impress me on either side of the ball as we hit the quarter pole. And I'm an optimist. But they have no depth at all and I think the defense is poor. The only thing going for it is that Army doesn't throw the ball.

But any team with even an average passing game will have a field day on this team.
 

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They got their ass kicked last year and army played tough against Stanford. And this team doesn't impress me on either side of the ball as we hit the quarter pole. And I'm an optimist. But they have no depth at all and I think the defense is poor. The only thing going for it is that Army doesn't throw the ball.

But any team with even an average passing game will have a field day on this team.
 
They were one first down on a turtle drive away from beating Army last year,  and that was after what might have been the worst coached game in the history of the program. 
 
Yeah, Army played Stanford tough at home at 9am Stanford time.   If the game was at Army it might be close, but at BC,  BC should win by 3TDs at least.    Wake just beat Army by 2 TD's at Army and Wake is AWFUL
 
Great effort by BC.  Shame the staff seemed to turtle in the second quarter and let the game get out of hand.  Make no mistake, I think if the game were closer FSU wouldn't have stepped off the gas in the 4th quarter.  Nice to see Willis getting more and more time, he does seem like a real potential playmaker. 
 

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They were one first down on a turtle drive away from beating Army last year,  and that was after what might have been the worst coached game in the history of the program. 
 
Yeah, Army played Stanford tough at home at 9am Stanford time.   If the game was at Army it might be close, but at BC,  BC should win by 3TDs at least.    Wake just beat Army by 2 TD's at Army and Wake is AWFUL
 
Great effort by BC.  Shame the staff seemed to turtle in the second quarter and let the game get out of hand.  Make no mistake, I think if the game were closer FSU wouldn't have stepped off the gas in the 4th quarter.  Nice to see Willis getting more and more time, he does seem like a real potential playmaker. 
Hope you're right Mike but as I recall Army put up almost 600 yards on BC and the last series was a 3 and out and crap punt. Also last year like all opponents they had no problems on third down efficiency. As for the Stanford game, the Cardinal was in NY for 2 days prior to the game. As one who does that cross country trek once a month by day 2 you adjust to the time change. Army is beating La Tech today in Dallas. May not mean much other than they are better perhaps than last year. As are the Eagles.

As for this years team I agree they have more fight in them and are beginning to believe in themselves. I used to buy the notion that common opponents used to be good indicator of how teams might match up but in college football I'm not a real believer in that. How do you explain Maryland blowing out WVU and then WVU beating Oklahoma state. I think it's more about match ups and attitudes as well as talent of course.

BC has fight but has no depth so against first tier teams they will struggle. Overall I like the spirit but they have no real talent. Rettig is a very average QB. He may be a victim of the coaching carousel the last few years but in any event he is what he is.

They still have a chance at 6 wins. They have beaten the teams they should and have lost to whom they should lose. It's the toss ups that will dictate this season and Army is one of those games this year. If you look at the results to date you have to ask "who have they beaten?" Right now the answer is no one.
 

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Most encouraging ... BC had receivers running open all day but chase locked in on Amidon. Both INTs ... Other guys wide open.

BC beats Army by 20+. Book it!
 

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BC is going to have 60 pounds on Army across the line.   and AW is bigger than every LB and DB Army has, plus bigger than half of their DL.  BC will be able to run on them,  and beyond that Army is the one team BC's skill position athletes have the advantage on.   I suspect Brown and company will actually prepare the team to face Army's attack, so that will be a big change over a year ago 
 

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Who cares? Six wins and a bowl matters after the last two years. It matters for recruiting and program building. This board has gone from insisting that BC can't beat Army to saying it doesn't matter.

VT, UNC, NCST are all "winnable" games this year. Will they win? I don't know but I do think it can happen. And if they do, yes I will care.
 

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One other thing ... While it wasn't the difference in the game the officials were terrible yesterday. There were a couple of terrible interference calls against BC and FSU was holding all day. Also, just watched the final play of the first half. The left slot receiver was not even close to being set before the snap. Not a good day for the ACC officials (or if you're a conspiracy theorist, very good day :) )
 

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BSF ... You and I really don't disagree except that I do think 6 wins and a toilet bowl do matter to recruits. Addazzio and Co. are selling kids on being part of bring BC to prominence. I think they can sell yesterday's game to kids by saying BC is a few difference makers away and they can be those kids.

It's all about getting to the place you and I want them to be. Having a chance to beat the elite programs again. However, we need to walk before we can run. I'm trying to enjoy it but they need to keep it up.
 

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Last year at this time, BC had dominated an FCS team, and put up decent fights in losses against two top 15ish teams, and one pretty good FBS team.

This year, BC squeaked by an FCS team, beat a bad FBS team, got dominated by a mediocre at best FBS team, and put up a decent fight against a top 10ish team.

Isn't the only difference thus far the schedule?

For example, Sagarin's predictor ranking (which includes consideration of opponent and margin of victory/defeat) had last year's 1-2 team at #60, while it had ths year's 2-1 team at #85. (The newest ratings aren't out yet.) EDIT: new Sagarin is out. the 2013 Eagles at 2-2 are #80. The 2012 Eagles at 1-3 were #62.
 

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It is really hard to get a read on BC at this point.   They beat two awful teams, and got blown out by a team that is going to struggle to get to 6 wins.  Now yesterday they play a great game against a very good FSU team.  Now I think FSU played well below themselves yesterday, but still the game was MUCH closer than expected.
 
Next week a really awful Army team,  and then a Clemson team that is out of their league.   So they will get to Oct 26th at 3-3, and we are still likely to know almost nothing about the team. And UNC will likely be 2-4 or 1-5 when BC arrives