"Cromartie struggled on the field and suffered a hip injury that may require offseason surgery, which has led to some conversation about how he fits on the roster moving forward. Cromartie is set to make $5 million roster bonus in March while counting a whopping $15 million against the cap, both of which would be big numbers for a player coming off a better season than Cromartie just turned in."SpacemanzGerbil said:
2014 Jets: Report -- Rex & Idzik both to be let go
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Vick?
“@RapSheet: Based on conversations this week, it’s clear the #Jets are viewed as a legitimate possible landing spot for #Eagles QB Michael Vick
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“@RapSheet: Based on conversations this week, it’s clear the #Jets are viewed as a legitimate possible landing spot for #Eagles QB Michael Vick
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/437997836995534849
Would love to see how Geno reacts to that signing if that happens.Old Fart Tree said:
Could go both ways, but taking practice snaps away from Smith isn't going to help him develop, and Vick isn't a long term solution for the Jets.
Wouldn't hate that move either as a Jets fan, but not sure if it isn't a bit short-sighted.
Jets lost Austin Howard, but Manish "The Thorn" Mehta speculates an Eric Decker visit:
TGG is also ablaze with a possible Revis return.
Jets agree with Decker. 5/36.25 with 16 guaranteed. Immediately makes them better on offense, no doubt. If they sign Vick, that'll be a fun combo to watch.
For $7 mill and change with that guarantee, I think it's actually a pretty good contract and addition. Decker is an exceptional secondary receiver and is getting paid a fair price that falls just below the $8 million threshold, which I think is starting to really mark the upper echelon salaries across all positions, but particularly in the case of WRs.
The only problem with it is that the Jets don't have anything at all to complement him and he will be asked to be the main target in the passing game (short of them hitting it big in the draft).
The only problem with it is that the Jets don't have anything at all to complement him and he will be asked to be the main target in the passing game (short of them hitting it big in the draft).
According to the New York Daily News, the Jets will sign TE Brandon Pettigrew shortly.
It's an upgrade on Zach Sudfeld and Jeff Cumberland, but it's far from a difference-making acquisition. Pettigrew is a plodding, catch-and-fall guy in the passing game that has averaged 9.95 yards per reception in his five-year career. He's also been a liability when blocking in the run game. Pettigrew will barely be on the TE2 radar with Geno Smith and the Jets.
Decker, Pettigrew, and rumors of Vick is not a very impressive start for a club that has the foundation to be good. Count me as happy they didn't jump on Josh McCown, who seems to me the sort of competent QB who could win with their stout defense. They still have a lot of money to spend, though...my guess is DRC ends up in green.
I'd be wary of DRC (so, as a Patriots fan, I'm okay with the Jets signing him.) He backed off his retirement talk, but what if the fire is gone and he just wants one more paycheck? You know, to help feed the kids.
dbn said:
I'm confused. DRC talked about possibly retiring if the Broncos won the Super Bowl, but it's Antonio Cromartie who has a bunch of kids. Which one of them are you referring to?
Cellar-Door said:
rodderick said:
Sorry. All the blood drained from my head after the Revis news broke. It's be more than 4 hrs; I'm calling a medical professional.
(edit: I had even thought that I might be confusing the two and thus did a google search to make sure, but "dominique rodgers-cromartie" actually suggests an auto-finish of "kids". I should have kept reading...)
Jets lose out on one of their big targets, TE Brandon Pettigrew. He signs back with the Lions.
Still needing a WR (all signs point to Marquise Lee of USC), TE (2nd/3rd round pick? Better not be Fiedorowicz), and a corner to replace Cromartie.
I think they may jump in on Peanut Tillman or DRC.
Still needing a WR (all signs point to Marquise Lee of USC), TE (2nd/3rd round pick? Better not be Fiedorowicz), and a corner to replace Cromartie.
I think they may jump in on Peanut Tillman or DRC.
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
DRC's in NYC as of Saturday. Apparently Jets FO is bent on signing him before he leaves premises.
I'd LOVE to have Idzik miss out on one of the few options left at corner. Otherwise, it's Milliner, Kyle Wilson, and Nick "Who?" Taylor.
SeoulSoxFan said:
If I were the Jets I wouldn't let him leave either. Milliner could be pretty good and I thought Wilson had a decent year, but yeah, if that's who they're starting, it doesn't look great.
Drama in Jets land
Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 44s
Woody Johnson employees not named Idzik are not happy with Idzik. One just told me Idzik "operates on his own time & schedule. Unbelievable"
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN
Manish Mehta @MMehtaNYDN 44s
Woody Johnson employees not named Idzik are not happy with Idzik. One just told me Idzik "operates on his own time & schedule. Unbelievable"
https://twitter.com/MMehtaNYDN
jon abbey said:
Unfortunately, Cro (not the other Cro) may now be the only option left for the Jets.
SeoulSoxFan said:
Why is Antonio unfortunate? Old and injured and awful last year isn't a great portent for when he's a year older.
I've had an assumption of competence on Idzik (and certainly the deal netting them Sheldon Richardson for Revis (and lots of cash) is looking good. But not seeing what his game is here: this isn't a terrible team and they have tons of money to spend. Already a solid D (terrific D with the addition of a #1 CB and growth of Milliner) and a good O-line. Pick up some skill players and a QB like McCown and they'd be a pain in the ass to play. Hard for me to believe he's tanking for another year given the pressures of that market and the fact that their salary cap situation is real good. Is there a superior QB class heralded for the draft after next? Not that I've heard of, particularly, and can never count on such things, anyway.
Weird.
Oh well, sucks to be a Jets fan.
Am I missing something or wasn't Milliner getting consistently torched and benched last year? I see a few people talking about him like he's an exciting player with big potential, but it seems to me that he has a long way to go before being anything special. Rex seemed to have very little patience for him last year.
cromulence said:
Jets fans are high on Milliner's "strong" finish, when he earned a Defensive Player of the Week and Rookie Defensive Player of the Month honors. His PFF grades bear this out, when his finished with a +1.8 (vs. Oak), +0.1 (vs. Car), +1.4 (vs Clev), + 3.3 (vs Mia).
Overall however, he still finished with a -7.4 grade against pass coverage, and in PFF's signature "Coverage Snaps per Reception" stat he ranked 73 out of 81 corners with at least 50% snaps played:
If Milliner can sustain his apparent turnaround that'd be a big boost to the secondary. Ryan can put Milliner as #1, Cro as #2 (if they get him back), and stick Wilson in slot. That's not great, but not a disaster.
However, what's not getting a lot of attention is the absolute dearth of lack at the safety position. Here's the current chart:
- SS: Dawan Landry, Josh Bush
- FS: Antonio Allen, Jaiquawn Jarrett, Rontez Miles
Ryan's strategy of building inside out has resulted in one of the best front-fours around, but the back seven have a lot of questions marks -- especially the secondary whether or not they sign Cro back.
I don't know about this. They finished 8-8 but this was a pretty bad team. We know about the lucky victories against the Pats and the Bucs, but they had a -97 point differential which was only saved from being even worse by some late wins against Oakland, Cleveland and the mess that was Miami. For a long time they were neck and neck with JAX for the worst point differential. They were 24th in total DVOA and their defense was only 11th.Tony C said:
Why is Antonio unfortunate? Old and injured and awful last year isn't a great portent for when he's a year older.
I've had an assumption of competence on Idzik (and certainly the deal netting them Sheldon Richardson for Revis (and lots of cash) is looking good. But not seeing what his game is here: this isn't a terrible team and they have tons of money to spend. Already a solid D (terrific D with the addition of a #1 CB and growth of Milliner) and a good O-line. Pick up some skill players and a QB like McCown and they'd be a pain in the ass to play. Hard for me to believe he's tanking for another year given the pressures of that market and the fact that their salary cap situation is real good. Is there a superior QB class heralded for the draft after next? Not that I've heard of, particularly, and can never count on such things, anyway.
Weird.
Oh well, sucks to be a Jets fan.
Their defensive front is great but as SSF notes their secondary is questionable at best. You can't run on them but who cares if they can't cover.
Their o-line has a good reputation but FO's numbers have them at 21st running and 27th pass protecting. That could be a function of Smith and their lack of RBs, but I wouldn't call it "good."
You're right that DRC would help probably the team's biggest weakness on defense, but they still need a lot of help. Is DRC a long-term answer there? Not sure. Decker is a nice move for them but this is a multi-year rebuilding process and I don't think spending a ton this offseason would really get things done. I'd be looking for bargains and focusing on the draft.
@AdamSchefter Former Jets CB Antonio Cromartie reached agreement on a one-year deal with the Arizona Cardinals, per ESPN source.
Jets starting corners: Milliner & Kyle Wilson. Yup. Milliner & Wilson.
Jets starting corners: Milliner & Kyle Wilson. Yup. Milliner & Wilson.
The Jets still have to spend around 14 million dollars, I believe, to hit the cap floor. If you figure in a couple million for the draft, who are they spending that 12 million on? Jabari Greer? Santonio Holmes? Who's left? Wilkerson extension? If they cut Sanchez, they have to spend 20 million! If they end up with Jared Allen, just because, it wouldn't really shock me, despite Allen's supposed "list". Overpay to hit the floor and sate your fanbase. What else are they going to do?
Just realizing now that maybe 8-12 million goes to Michael Vick, but LOL at that.
Just realizing now that maybe 8-12 million goes to Michael Vick, but LOL at that.
I think Vick is a smart signing for the Jets (assuming he actually signs with them).
I'm also surprised that they haven't been linked with Jermichael Finley.
As for the defensive backfield, it's looking pretty grim for them. Drayton Florence? Champ Bailey? Asante Samuel? Yikes.
I'm also surprised that they haven't been linked with Jermichael Finley.
As for the defensive backfield, it's looking pretty grim for them. Drayton Florence? Champ Bailey? Asante Samuel? Yikes.
Ed Hillel said:
I'm actually on board with what the Jets are doing.
I think anyone with common sense knows that this team is not close to competing for a SuperBowl. Why bother resigning players or bringing in players that can get them to 8-8 or 9-7?
Get some extensions and bonuses for the players you want to keep (Wilkerson), keep some cap flexibility for the future, and tank the hell out of the next season or two so that you can get some top 5 pick's.
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
With the talent they're putting on the field, I don't think it matters what Ryan wants.
I also think it's the reason he pushed for a long term extension last year. He knows this team is in for some hard times. He'd rather be able to stick around for the long haul then be permanently marked with the NYJ stench that's about to take place.
Kenny F'ing Powers said:
I don't know. It could be career and franchise suicide to put crap on the field every Sunday in New York, with the media and that fanbase.
On the other hand Rex is likely to never get another head coaching job anyway and Idzik is a moron so I suppose anythings possible. If they do overtly tank this season, we're likely to see a shit ton of rule changes to make that action severely penalized.
Eck'sSneakyCheese said:
Have you been paying attention for the last 40 years?
As far as teams "tanking"...it's not something new, and I doubt there will be any actions set in motion to penalize teams for doing it.
I do want to be clear that I'm not implying teams try to lose games while on the field. Simply that they don't field the best product (something teams do all the time).
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