bbc23 said:
I had the same impression as you, but it actually makes sense that it doesn't when you think about it logically. The Mavs signed Parsons, not Houston. So his new cap figure is on Dallas' books.
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I had the same impression as you, but it actually makes sense that it doesn't when you think about it logically. The Mavs signed Parsons, not Houston. So his new cap figure is on Dallas' books.
My guesses:
-Bosh goes to the Rockets
-Hou matches on Parsons.
-LBJ to Cavs
-Cavs trade for Love
-Melo to the Knicks
-Pat Riley.....starts the rebuild -- I don't think he'd so cold blooded to tell Wade to hit the open market, though (but would love it).
-Bosh goes to the Rockets
-Hou matches on Parsons.
-LBJ to Cavs
-Cavs trade for Love
-Melo to the Knicks
-Pat Riley.....starts the rebuild -- I don't think he'd so cold blooded to tell Wade to hit the open market, though (but would love it).
It probably did up the ante a bit. I'd guess Houston was hoping to avoid paying the max.bowiac said:
I'm assuming Houston is going to match, and would've told him so unless there is a break in trust between Parsons and Houston management.
I wonder if Houston told him to go ahead and sign the offer sheet, intending to match, to put a clock on Bosh to accept their offer? Basically puts a deadline on Bosh without Houston having to be the bad guy.
Yeah, Philly is the speculation I've seen. My guy in Houston says they do have a deal however - I just haven't pressed him for where.Grin&MartyBarret said:
I think it's the opposite of the bolded. I think this means Houston will not match. Putting "pressure" on Bosh doesn't make much sense to me - the guy will have other max offers I expect. However, if LeBron honestly isn't sure (like we've seen some reporting), then this accelerates the Houston clock so they can't sign both.mcpickl said:
If Houston was going to match, then Parsons could have waited a few days to sign this. If they communicated to him that they weren't going to, then there's no harm in signing it now however.
Chris Sheridan says Cleveland:
https://twitter.com/sheridanhoops/status/487014354756599809/
For whatever that's worth.
https://twitter.com/sheridanhoops/status/487014354756599809/
For whatever that's worth.
If Houston doesn't match it's a disaster for them.bowiac said:
They could've had him under contract for 1M this year, then let him walk next summer. If they weren't prepared to match the max now, they should've picked up that option.
And on "pressure" on Bosh. Didn't mean to imply he can't get the max elsewhere. I meant if he wants to play in Houston for the max, they'd be putting him on the clock. He can get the max multiple places I'm sure, but Houston seems like a good fit for him.
I assume (I don't know) that Houston didn't expect Parsons to get this kind of offer. Looks like a gamble that didn't work out to me.
Well, if they had a deal (i.e. $15M/year for 3 years), then they could have just left it at a handshake situation (the way teams do with plays all the time during this moratorium period), and not had to guess about whether LeBron decides in the next 72 hours.triniSox said:
Agreed, but I think Lebron has played the heel long enough. People have/are putting The Decision behind them and liking him more or less universally again. Doubling down on Miami would be lame and boring (aside from whatever histrionics would occur in Cleveland). Returning home with all the pressure in the world to finally get the city a title would be tremendous theater.jon abbey said:
Yes! Bron in Cleveland makes this a very exciting upcoming season for this league. The Miami trio was growing old and had run its course. Good timing for Bron too.Tony C said:
Bron is also playing this perfectly this time around having learned from his and his advisors mistakes. He hasn't been heard from and won't be until he makes announcement.
Actually I'm starting to come around on agreeing with you. Seems like it'd be very very hard to match Parsons and give Bosh the max (basically only through a very complicated S&T) - Bosh could of course take a little less than the max but we'll see if he does that.bowiac said:
I think the Mavericks played this wisely; Morey has to go all-in on Bosh if he wants to see improvement in his roster. Matching Parsons just creates an expensive re-run of last year's squad. What's interesting is if Morey blinks and matches the Parsons offer while James bolts to Cleveland, where does Bosh go then?
I think it's pretty clear they'll match Parsons one way or the other. I'm guessing it'll be 1: LBJ to Cleve; 2: bosh to Hou; 3: Hou matches on Parsons.
If LBJ delays, then the pressure will be on Bosh. Will he dare make the first move? If not, then I think Hou has to sign Parsons at the deadline, which if I understand correctly will mean Bosh can't be signed by Hou. I don't think Bosh can let that happen unless LBJ gives him a personal assurance they can both go to Miami.
I doubt it'll go that fR, tho.
If LBJ delays, then the pressure will be on Bosh. Will he dare make the first move? If not, then I think Hou has to sign Parsons at the deadline, which if I understand correctly will mean Bosh can't be signed by Hou. I don't think Bosh can let that happen unless LBJ gives him a personal assurance they can both go to Miami.
I doubt it'll go that fR, tho.
wibi said:
Cap floor doesn't have any actual penalty associated with it, and the Jazz would have until the final day of the regular season to spend that 2 million. If they fail to, all they're required to do is split evenly among the players on their roster.
Tony C said:
For what it's worth, that contract hasn't been submitted to the Rockets yet according to Jeff Caplan on Twitter (his source is Donnie Nelson). So the clock hasn't started ticking yet.
This is strange.. There are pics and quotes of Cuban and Parsons signing the deal and celebrating at a night club once it was emailed to the Rockets.Grin&MartyBarret said:
We were all waiting for LeBron to make a decision before the FA ball got rolling......whoever thought that it would be Chandler Parsons signing that actually initiated this movement. News of the weird.
So if the mavs get parsons they will have 4 good players and a great coach. What is their upside
HomeRunBaker said:
Clock starts when the contract is presented to the Rockets. Not sure if it has to be the physical copy, or what. But that's the hold up at this point.
I would be very surprised if Houston matched without a Bosh (or other max guy) signing. I think the issue they're debating now is what to do if the LeBron domino doesn't fall before the 72 hour deadline runs.
See http://mavericks.scout.com/story/1402950-mavs-parsons-offer-puts-rockets-in-pinch?s=268Tony C said:
The order matters of course but even given that, still cap acrobatics needed to make it happen. Talk of a Crowder - Parsons S&T that could be beneficial to both teams
Tony C said:
I don't believe that's correct. The issue is that Parsons cap hold is "artificially low" because they are using his Bird Rights cap hold ($1.7603) not his matching cap hold ($2.8751). As the article states, once Parsons signs the offer sheet, the Rockets either have to drop their matching rights - at which point Parsons is a Mav - or they have to increase the cap hold, which means they no longer have enough room to give Bosh the true maximum.
So the Rockets have to sign Bosh before Parsons signs the offer sheet.
Given that the league is being held hostage, it's probably in everyone's interest to wait for LBJ.
Also the Asik deal may have hit a snag because of the slightly lower cap just announced, details here:
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/with-lower-than-expected-salary-cap-will-rockets-and-pelicans-still-complete-omer-asik-trade/
http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/07/10/with-lower-than-expected-salary-cap-will-rockets-and-pelicans-still-complete-omer-asik-trade/
I've never questioned Wojo ever......but here is the actual video of the signing at a night club. Unless this was staged (can't imagine that being case) he is wrong here.bowiac said:
http://dimemag.com/2014/07/watch-chandler-parsons-sign-contract-club-mark-cuban/
HomeRunBaker said:
Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA · 51m
Until Dallas delivers signed offer sheet to Houston, a sign-and-trade is possible for Chandler Parsons
LeBron supposedly 3:30 announcement from his house. Reportedly 5 police officers securing the residence.
Rumor or real?
Edit;
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
Can confirm extra security stationed on/around property of LeBron's Akron home as of 3 pm ET. @PhilTrexler initially reported.
To be more precise, no less than five police officers at LeBron James home. They were told to expect a 3:30 ET announcement.
Rumor or real?
Edit;
Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO
Can confirm extra security stationed on/around property of LeBron's Akron home as of 3 pm ET. @PhilTrexler initially reported.
To be more precise, no less than five police officers at LeBron James home. They were told to expect a 3:30 ET announcement.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/2014/07/10/chandler-parsons-houston-rockets-qualifying-offer-match-dallas-mavericks/12488109/
Mavs have pulled out of trade talks and delivered offer sheet to Houston.
Mavs have pulled out of trade talks and delivered offer sheet to Houston.