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Rough Carrigan said:
I don't know, I guess two possibilities.  Either it's completely pointless, in which case why bother.   Do they really need Cone's degree of celebrity?  Or, if he ever does anything, does that compromise his ability to be objective.
 
Seriously?

The show is a promotion. Teams have former players on hand. He's a warm body that used to play for the team and is right near by.
 

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"[You] talk about" is probably the phrase that has the highest ratio of "times said by sports announcers" versus "times said by non-sports-announcers." Analysts lean on it constantly, but I'm not sure I've heard anyone use it in real life.
 

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Rough Carrigan said:
I don't know, I guess two possibilities.  Either it's completely pointless, in which case why bother.   Do they really need Cone's degree of celebrity?  Or, if he ever does anything, does that compromise his ability to be objective.
It's definitely completely pointless.  It's pointless for any of the former players to be there, but yet, there they are.  
 
The rest of your post is confusing though.  If "he ever does anything" is referring to who doing what exactly?  Whose ability to be objective would be compromised?  David Cone's?  Since when is David Cone objective?  More importantly, why should he be?  Is Jerry Remy objective? 
 

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DJ Stewart to Orioles. Compared to Youk. Called the Greek god of squats because of his stance. On base machine.
 

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I know this Mike Soroka guy VERY well. Local kid, he's been a teammate of my son's, I've umpired a lot of his games. Wow. Knew he was good, but am honestly surprised he went in the 1st round.  Am very happy for him.
 

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Papelbon's Poutine said:
I know it's a weak crop, but it wouldn't suck to have a sandwich pick with Matuella and Cameron still out there.
 
I know the chances are still at like 0.000001%, but I'm starting to have trouble not getting excited about the idea of Cameron falling to the third round.
 

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Snodgrass'Muff said:
 
I know the chances are still at like 0.000001%, but I'm starting to have trouble not getting excited about the idea of Cameron falling to the third round.
 
Of course, then I remember how excited I was when Jon Denney fell that far.
 

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The Astros have added a ton of high upside talent tonight. If they get everyone signed (big if) they'll stick around right at the top of the prospect rankings for another couple years. Given how good and young their major league roster currently is, that's a scary thought.
 

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Rice4HOF said:
I know this Mike Soroka guy VERY well. Local kid, he's been a teammate of my son's, I've umpired a lot of his games. Wow. Knew he was good, but am honestly surprised he went in the 1st round.  Am very happy for him.
 
I was thinking 3rd...last I saw of him (other than last month) was before his growth spurt. Amazing what that free dose of HGH God gives you at 15 can do! I have to guess that the Chris Reitsma connection was part of Atlanta picking him.
 

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Snodgrass'Muff said:
The Astros have added a ton of high upside talent tonight. If they get everyone signed (big if) they'll stick around right at the top of the prospect rankings for another couple years. Given how good and young their major league roster currently is, that's a scary thought.
 
Didn't know the Tucker they took with their first pick is the brother of Bam Bam
 

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Fred not Lynn said:
 
I was thinking 3rd...last I saw of him (other than last month) was before his growth spurt. Amazing what that free dose of HGH God gives you at 15 can do! I have to guess that the Chris Reitsma connection was part of Atlanta picking him.
He was ranked between 60-90 in by BA, PG, etc, so was looking like a solid 3rd rounder.  But he dominated with the JNT in the Dominican in late May and his stock soared. Big rumours of the Jays wanting him... no doubt Reitsma whispered in the ears of some Braves that he wouldn't be around until their next pick. 
 

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He was just a few rbi shy of being the first Triple crown winner since rafael palmiero, for one thing.
 
Benintendi (rhymes with Yastrzemski) is roughly Yaz's size FWIW.  Unlike Palmeiro, he should be steroid and Viagra free during his professional career.
 

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Do we have another pick today?  I'm having problems locating the info.  Yes, I didn't try that hard.
 

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http://m.mlb.com/news/article/129483104/high-ceiling-talent-available-as-day-2-awaits
 
From mlb.com, best prospects available for Day2:
 
 
The top 10 players, according to the MLB.com rankings, still on the board, are:
23. Donny Everett, RHP, Clarksville HS (Tenn.)
28. Michael Matuella, RHP, Duke
31. Justin Hooper, LHP, De La Salle HS (Calif.)
33. Dakota Chalmers, RHP, North Forsyth HS (Ga.)
39. Jacob Nix, RHP, IMG Acadamy (Fla.)
41. Jalen Miller, SS, Riverwood International Charter School (Ga.)
45. Riley Ferrell, RHP, TCU
47. Blake Trahan, SS, Lousiana-Lafayette
54. Luken Baker, RHP/1B, Oak Ridge HS (Texas)
55. Cole Sands, RHP, North Florida Christian HS (Fla.)

 
 
Who should the Red Sox pick? Should the Red Sox consider Matuella? Will he even be there?
 
Next picks:
76.Arizona
77.Colorado
78.Texas
79.Houston
80.Minnesota
81.Boston
 

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For a low risk but signable college pitcher, healthy and low mileage RP Ferrell from TCU could move quickly but will help them stay within budget better than injury risks (Matuella and McCarthy), risky HS pitchers (there are plenty of them) or HS players who have bonus leverage because of college offers.  Here is the BA scouting report for him:
 
Teams have stopped drafting college relievers in the first round. Nick Burdi (picked 46th) and Jacob Lindgren (picked 55th) were the top two relievers taken last year and Corey Knebel (picked 39th) was the only college reliever taken in the top two rounds in 2013. That trend will likely continue this year. College relievers can deliver a quick payoff, though, and none may pay off quicker than Ferrell. Pro teams will be able to take a gloves-off approach this season with Ferrell because he's been so lightly used this spring. TCU's starting pitchers have been so effective that Ferrell had just 25 innings of work as the Big 12 tournament neared. Ferrell has shown that his stuff holds up very well in the very infrequent times he's been used on back-to-back nights, He's averaging only 16 pitches per outing and has topped 30 pitches only once all year. He's posted sub 1.00 ERAs both as a sophomore and junior. Ferrell's 92-96 mph plus fastball has touched 98 mph at times, and he pairs it with a plus mid-80s slider that has depth more than tilt. Ferrell also has a changeup with potential that he doesn't really use in games as a reliever but could become much more important if a team decides to see if he can start. While his up-tempo delivery has some effort, his arm stroke is clean. There are teams who view him as a potential three-pitch starter but more likely he's an effective power reliever with a chance to close.
 

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Man, Matuella's still on the board on day 2. His medicals must be an absolute mess. And/or teams think an injury discount is out of the question. 
 

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Brianish said:
Man, Matuella's still on the board on day 2. His medicals must be an absolute mess. And/or teams think an injury discount is out of the question. 
I think he wants too much to sign. The Sox have the talent in the system to get him to sign especially since they lost two picks yesterday.
 

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The Boomer said:
Why Ferrell (projected as high as the first round by some) might be their guy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PT-Xd-IIf7k
I saw Ferrell pitch last weekend.  While his stuff is filthy, he has struggled with control this year.  He has 19 walks in 28.2 IP(45 strikeouts though).  
 

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RedOctober3829 said:
I saw Ferrell pitch last weekend.  While his stuff is filthy, he has struggled with control this year.  He has 19 walks in 28.2 IP(45 strikeouts though).  
 
He was a horror show last night. Came on to close out the game with a 4-2 lead - hit by pitch, walk, and he was pulled (and both runs scored and the game went on for seven more innings). Looked like he had no idea where the ball was going; not sure if it was nerves or that's just how he is.
 

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cromulence said:
 
He was a horror show last night. Came on to close out the game with a 4-2 lead - hit by pitch, walk, and he was pulled (and both runs scored and the game went on for seven more innings). Looked like he had no idea where the ball was going; not sure if it was nerves or that's just how he is.
If he's good, he's as good as they come.  But, sometimes as you said, he does not know where the ball is going.  
 

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NO ONE PUTS ON 15 LBS of MUSCLE IN ONE OFFSEASON!!! 
:)
 
From a Ryan Hannable story on Benintendi:  "Benintendi struggled during his first season as a Razorback, hitting just .227 with only one home run.  This past season he broke out, hitting .390 with 18 home runs on the way to winning the SEC Player of the Year Award.  Both his high school coaches noted he was “worn down” his freshman year at Arkansas, playing baseball almost 12 straight months for the first time in his life, likely a major factor in his below average numbers.  The biggest difference in the two seasons was lifting weights and putting on 15 pounds of muscle, something he learned was important back in his days at Madeira."
 

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Tyrone Biggums said:
I think he wants too much to sign. The Sox have the talent in the system to get him to sign especially since they lost two picks yesterday.
 
He had TJ earlier this year - how much leverage could he possibly have? He probably won't even be able to pitch next year. 
 

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Tyrone Biggums said:
I think he wants too much to sign. The Sox have the talent in the system to get him to signespecially since they lost two picks yesterday.
The days of leveraging the team's financial resources to acquire talent in the draft are over. Each pick in rounds 1-10 is assigned a dollar value, and the total of the club's pick values covers a) what it can spend in rounds 1-10, plus b) any bonus over 100K after round 10.

Losing picks reduces a team's bonus pool. Failing to sign a pick results in losing that slot's value. The latter being what caused the clusterfuck with the Astros last year.
 

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BUConvict said:
 
He had TJ earlier this year - how much leverage could he possibly have? He probably won't even be able to pitch next year. 
 
He has the leverage that comes from walking away and losing a team all of their slot money. 
 

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natpastime162 said:
The days of leveraging the team's financial resources to acquire talent in the draft are over. Each pick in rounds 1-10 is assigned a dollar value, and the total of the club's pick values covers a) what it can spend in rounds 1-10, plus b) any bonus over 100K after round 10.

Losing picks reduces a team's bonus pool. Failing to sign a pick results in losing that slot's value. The latter being what caused the clusterfuck with the Astros last year.
I realize this but quite frankly you could draft him and draft a few under slot guys between 5-10th round.
 

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Brianish said:
 
He has the leverage that comes from walking away and losing a team all of their slot money. 
 
I get that. What I was driving at is that I'm not sure I see much upside to him returning to school and trying again next year. At that point A. He won't have pitched in a game in 14 months B. He'll be a college senior. He'll pretty much be obligated to take whatever bonus is sent his way or ply his trade in the Pioneer League. 
 
So while he does have the ability to detonate his vest and screw the team that drafts him out of their slot allocation, it seems more logical for him to take what he can get now, get into an MLB rehab program, and get to work. 
 
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