2016 Bills: BRexit

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I have to be honest, I'm looking forward to seeing Rex as an analyst next season. He's a buffoon but he seems like a likable guy and he knows Xs and Os. If he keeps his candor it could be a really great second career for him.
Giving the devil his due -- he was the best coach evah on "Hard Knocks"
 

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I would say both of the Ryans are a position over their heads, meaning Rex should be a defensive coordinator, although Buffalo's defense has sharply declined since his arrival, and Rob should be a positional coach.

Rex has said this is his last stand as a head coach, but I don't think the decision will be his. Hard to seem him getting another head coaching gig in the immediate future, although Jeff Fisher still has a job, so who can tell.
 

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Couldn't you imagine Rex in college? I think he could recruit (whether he wants to do the grind is a different question) and I think that environment probably works better with his rah-rah personality...especially since his act wears thin with players (it appears) and in college that isn't really an issue.

Whether the lack of discipline his teams play with will work in college is a serious question, I acknowledge. But he's a very good X and Os DC, and he is comfortable handing off the offense, so I can believe that moreso than having a third shot in NFL.
 

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I would say both of the Ryans are a position over their heads, meaning Rex should be a defensive coordinator, although Buffalo's defense has sharply declined since his arrival, and Rob should be a positional coach.

Rex has said this is his last stand as a head coach, but I don't think the decision will be his. Hard to seem him getting another head coaching gig in the immediate future, although Jeff Fisher still has a job, so who can tell.
Not only does Fisher still have a job, he is getting a three year extension. Funny things happen however I do believe this is Rex's last turn on the NFL HC carousel.
 

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Couldn't you imagine Rex in college? I think he could recruit (whether he wants to do the grind is a different question) and I think that environment probably works better with his rah-rah personality...especially since his act wears thin with players (it appears) and in college that isn't really an issue.

Whether the lack of discipline his teams play with will work in college is a serious question, I acknowledge. But he's a very good X and Os DC, and he is comfortable handing off the offense, so I can believe that moreso than having a third shot in NFL.
Kind of, but he is also quite good at defensive game planning. So many college coaches suck at the actual coaching aspect of their job. The Sabans are few and far between.
 

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College might be a good place for him, sure. That's where Carroll went and his rah-rah stuff worked great there. When he left the NFL for the first time the rah-rah shit had lost all meaning for him.
 

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Love this intro from (former Reiss colleague / intern) Mike Rodak

ORCHARD PARK, N.Y. -- Remember how Rex Ryan told his players he would be the "first m-----f----- that goes" if the Buffalo Bills didn't start to win this season?

So much for that.

Let's not mince words: Ryan was not true to his word. The Bills' head coach -- perhaps on his own, perhaps with pressure from management -- found a scapegoat for the Bills' 0-2 start by firing offensive coordinator Greg Roman on Friday.
 

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I forget--did the NFL ever pass a rule that coaches can't sign on elsewhere after they get canned? Because I think Roman is a pretty great coach and there's some chance he'd love to spend the next six months working for the Pats and getting a chance to kick Rex's ass twice. (He also coached in the NFC west so he might give you some insight in the remaining games there).
My first thought, as well.

Countdown to Rexit: 7 weeks.
heh -- that is brilliant. :)

And I lied. My first thought actually was: am loving watching Rex-y do a slow, fat belly flop. It's not right that Roman went, but it does prolong the delicious pleasure of seeing him humiliated in painfully obvious ways.
 

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Couldn't you imagine Rex in college? I think he could recruit (whether he wants to do the grind is a different question) and I think that environment probably works better with his rah-rah personality...especially since his act wears thin with players (it appears) and in college that isn't really an issue.

Whether the lack of discipline his teams play with will work in college is a serious question, I acknowledge. But he's a very good X and Os DC, and he is comfortable handing off the offense, so I can believe that moreso than having a third shot in NFL.
The Ryans have ties to Oklahoma State, where Buddy played and Rob was a DC for a while. I have no clue whether OSU would move on from Mike Gundy, but he hasn't had a great year since 2011, he is 2-9 against Oklahoma in his career, and they just lost to Central Michigan and may be facing a tough season. Getting the Ryans as a package deal might be an interesting possibility for them.
 

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The Ryans have ties to Oklahoma State, where Buddy played and Rob was a DC for a while. I have no clue whether OSU would move on from Mike Gundy, but he hasn't had a great year since 2011, he is 2-9 against Oklahoma in his career, and they just lost to Central Michigan and may be facing a tough season. Getting the Ryans as a package deal might be an interesting possibility for them.
OSU is made of money too. Rex could name his price if he was interested.
 

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If Rex coached college, his team's would top the nation in number of players arrested for felonies.
 

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Bigger question is what has Rob ever done?
I tried checking his stats as DC and from what I could gather he has had two top 15 finishes and every other season his defense has been ranked in the 20s, yet he has been a DC for over 10 straight years.
 

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http://bills.buffalonews.com/2016/09/16/ryan-pushes-everything-middle-table-firing-roman/

Roman was known not to have been the biggest Ryan fan, privately telling at least one person after last season that he thought Ryan was a "buffoon" and that being affiliated with him wasn't going to be good for his career. Also, after only a year in Buffalo, Roman was known to have been looking to coach elsewhere after the season, when the Bills led the NFL in rushing, even if that opportunity wasn't a head-coaching job. He was confident Ryan wasn't going to stand in his way.
Pretty clear that Ryan kept Roman around as a convenient scapegoat.
 

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I thought you were one of us, KFP. ONE OF US.

P.S. also want to send my kudos to the fantastic thread title.
Kudos on the Freaks reference.

Albert Breer said in his podcast this week that he was at a preseason practice and the Bills had like 7 false starts. Would BB let that happen?
 

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All's not well in Rexyland.
I fault Pegula on this.

The team is falling apart fast. You know how Rex is. Why pull a meddling owner routine and have a meeting without the head coach, especially when you've been publically backing him?

Bills still have enough talent to win a few games. A 7-9 season will do just fine, whether Rex stays through the end of it or not.
 

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If Rex survives the season, they draft Deshaun Watson first round. Rex buys another year (developing rookie qb) and then hires his long snapper son (another Clemson Tiger) adding another generation of Ryan's to the payroll.
 

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If Rex survives the season, they draft Deshaun Watson first round. Rex buys another year (developing rookie qb) and then hires his long snapper son (another Clemson Tiger) adding another generation of Ryan's to the payroll.
1) Bills won't be that bad to draft Watson. That'd be Browns, once again.
2) Even if they drafted a 1st round QB, Rex won't be considered the one to groom him
3) Bills' extension with Taylor will pay him $15.5m if they pick up the option. If Taylor regains form, they'd be better off keeping him
 

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I can see Rex doing well in college. If he could play 50% of his schedule against inferior talent he could create a dominant D on paper within two years, allowing him to recruit well. People here may not like him, but his players like him. An NFL guy sitting in the living room would turn some heads on the recruiting trail. His act has always seemed college to me, trash talking the other coaches, big promises, coach as center of attention, etc.

On the other hand being a college coach is a lot more work that being an analyst.
 

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Rex Ryan has stressed he wants new OC Anthony Lynn to get the ball in Sammy Watkins' hands, but Watkins says he isn't necessarily asking for that to happen. In fact, he says No. 2 receiver Robert Woods has been open and needs the ball more often.
 

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Looking forward to reading Watkins' new book:

"Just Give Me the Damn Ball!.....but only If Robert Woods isn't More Open"
 

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Rex is using all his manipulative powers in this interview:
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17587859/rex-ryan-buffalo-bills-coach-looking-forward-games-arizona-cardinals-new-england-patriots
"It might be the best team in the league, and maybe this is the exact team we need to play," Ryan said of the Cardinals. "And it's back-to-back weeks, by the way. You got [Cardinals coach] Bruce Arians this week, and you got [Patriots coach Bill] Belichick next week. So it's like, OK, there's a few more easier options than those two, but maybe this is exactly what we need."
And this gem:
"If you're going to pin it on one person being responsible for this 0-2 start, it's on me. I certainly accept it. I'm not happy with it. But I'm doing whatever I can to avoid being 0-3, albeit against arguably one of the best, if not the best, team in the NFL."
 

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Rex Ryan has stressed he wants new OC Anthony Lynn to get the ball in Sammy Watkins' hands, but Watkins says he isn't necessarily asking for that to happen. In fact, he says No. 2 receiver Robert Woods has been open and needs the ball more often.
Rexy should just shut up about offense at this point. Watkins has been hobbling all year and barely got on the field last week (2 catches & 20 yards).

BTW, Pegula knew what he was doing when he brought him. And when I say Pegula, I don't mean Kim: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000461412/article/bills-kim-pegula-rex-ryan-was-not-our-first-choice

"Rex Ryan was not Kim Pegula's first choice in Buffalo.

That's what the Bills' owner told her own in-house radio show this week when asked about the former Jets head coach who was signed to a hefty five-year contract last week.

'It was a little bit of a surprise, I'm going to admit, because he was not a candidate that we had really on the top of our list as, 'Wow, this is the guy we want. Let's go get him,'" Kim said, via The John Murphy Show. "We were just being very open-minded about everybody. But he really came in and really kind of elevated himself to that top position, where we said, 'Hey, listen, we need to have another talk with this guy.' "
 

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That second quote is all kinds of awesome.

The person responsible is me, but we canned the OC anyways. I'm okay with taking responsibility for our bad start (ignore the OC firing). I'm gonna try to avoid going 0-3, but if I do, remember probably one of the better teams in the league. Don't forget that media pals. Thank you!
 

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You can't make this stuff up: Rex Ryan says Sammy Watkins' injured foot was "stepped on" during a walkthrough earlier this week, which "didn't help" his already sore foot.
 

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The Bills' defense was 4th in the league the year before Rex got there, under Jim Schwartz.

Last year they were 15th, and this morning they're 25th.

His time with the Jets follows the same pattern. (DVOA, negative is good)

2009: -25.5
2010: -11.2
2011: -4.2
2012: -4.2
2013: -5.6
2014: 3.5

He's clearly a good coordinator, but he's way over his head as a head coach.