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luckiestman

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Curry and Green remind me of Moody and Mike from My Bodyguard


So easy to hate

 

bosockboy

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Lol what?

JR Smith: "I was trying to get enough to bring it out to get a shot off. I knew we were tied, I thought we were going to call timeout. If I thought we were ahead, I'd have held onto the ball and let them foul me."
Except he said “I thought we were ahead.”

Not owning it is pathetic.
 

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LeBron on the call reversal: "I read that play as well as I've read any play in my career defensively. It's a huge play..." Said after getting his eye poked that his vision got more blurry as the game went on.
 

ifmanis5

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LeBron is denying that he talked to JR about whether JR knew it was tied or not. Refuses to answer the question and walks off pissed. Wow.
 

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LeBron is denying that he talked to JR about whether JR knew it was tied or not. Refuses to answer the question and walks off pissed. Wow.
Come to Boston, LeBron. Our guards and wings went to Duke, Cal, and Butler.
 

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It is must be so devastating for the Cavs to get screwed by the refs. After all, they are usually the ones benefiting from a different set of rules.
 

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Anyone else see some resemblance between the overturned charge and the nfl admitting the changed the catch rule in the super bowl without telling anybody, costing the patriots big? Weird stuff. And confirms my suspicion that nobody gave a shit after the super bowl because it’s the pats.
 

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It is must be so devastating for the Cavs to get screwed by the refs. After all, they are usually the ones benefiting from a different set of rules.
Yeah.. this is what I was thinking.. LeBron finally feels like most of the time the Celts have played him. Although he did put up a ridiculous game tonite.

I did watch OT.. can anyone tell me why Curry was guarding LeBron? Are they using him because he’s quick at the 3 point line and they bring help any time LeBron goes to the hoop?
 

GoDa

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Saw this mentioned on ESPN - Lebron also clearly motions for a timeout with about 1 second remaining. Not acknowledged by refs. Guess that isn’t reviewable.
 

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Yeah.. this is what I was thinking.. LeBron finally feels like most of the time the Celts have played him. Although he did put up a ridiculous game tonite.

I did watch OT.. can anyone tell me why Curry was guarding LeBron? Are they using him because he’s quick at the 3 point line and they bring help any time LeBron goes to the hoop?
They’re switching on the picks when really they don’t have to.
 

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You know, I'm not rooting for the Warriors, but... JR Smith fucking up on such a massive scale is the best of all possible outcomes.

Fuck that guy.
 

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You know, I'm not rooting for the Warriors, but... JR Smith fucking up on such a massive scale is the best of all possible outcomes.

Fuck that guy.
Word. I was grateful that it happened to him.

As far as the charge/block reversal, I was as shocked as anyone. Apparently, they have been able to reverse that for two years? I knew that the restricted area was reviewable, but this is the equivalent of turning OPI into DPI in the NFL by review. FWIW, I think that they got the call right. Still shocked though.
 

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Lol what?

JR Smith: "I was trying to get enough to bring it out to get a shot off. I knew we were tied, I thought we were going to call timeout. If I thought we were ahead, I'd have held onto the ball and let them foul me."
This is awesome since you can clearly see him say he thought they were ahead on replay. LeBron did the classy thing and lied to protect a teammate, Smith just decided to shirk responsibility.
 

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This is awesome since you can clearly see him say he thought they were ahead on replay. LeBron did the classy thing and lied to protect a teammate, Smith just decided to shirk responsibility.
Unfortunately for him, Lue blew his cover.
 

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Saw this mentioned on ESPN - Lebron also clearly motions for a timeout with about 1 second remaining. Not acknowledged by refs. Guess that isn’t reviewable.
Was it that clear? In the replay I saw it looked like a half hearted TO gesture as time expired.

Whatever. I've seen a hundred NBA playoff games decided on calls worse than these.

If James was driving he'd get that blocking call almost every time on the grounds that the defender moved into him a little bit. I'm not saying it's the right call, I'm just saying he'd usually get the call and the other times he'd argue he should have got the call.
 

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Can’t believe anyone outside the Cavs’ locker room is citing the reversed call as evidence that the officials screwed the Cavs last night. That’s 100% a block on LeBron, and while the circumstances that led to review and reversal were unusual, they clearly followed the right procedures (i.e., once you’re looking at replay to determine if he was in the restricted area, you can fix the erroneous charge call). The officiating was subpar all around last night (I griped about it a few times upthread, and I’m normally not one to harp on those things), but they actually got that call right.
 

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An explanation for those wondering about the charge call that was overturned via replay...
Such BS.

Wait, what happened to a play needing to be conclusive to be reversed? Borgia admits "At best it's a tie" while never addressing that a defender is allowed to be moving if in position. LeBron was in position but still sliding however the slide doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't already in position. Just an awful decision to reverse an inconclusive play.

LeBron was jobbed 3 times down the stretch.....the clean strip of Durant when he was whistled for a foul, the next possession when Curry(?) took his arm out on penetration and a play on, and this reversal.


It is must be so devastating for the Cavs to get screwed by the refs. After all, they are usually the ones benefiting from a different set of rules.
As someone who feels LeBron is fouled on nearly every move to the basket with only a percentage of them whistled against his defender I disagree with this statement. LeBron to me is like Shaq when he played......he is so physically superior to his defender that the defender actually gets away with more on LeBron/Shaq than he would on anyone else since they easily play through the contact.


The best decision was to call his own number.
He had tried on two occasions earlier in the set but both times the Warriors ran a second defender at him to trap and get the ball out of his hands. LeBron was able to maintain possession until finding an open Hill under the basket. Passing to Hill for a layup with 5 seconds left or getting to the line was the correct read under those circumstances forces by Golden State.
 
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Can’t believe anyone outside the Cavs’ locker room is citing the reversed call as evidence that the officials screwed the Cavs last night. That’s 100% a block on LeBron, and while the circumstances that led to review and reversal were unusual, they clearly followed the right procedures (i.e., once you’re looking at replay to determine if he was in the restricted area, you can fix the erroneous charge call). The officiating was subpar all around last night (I griped about it a few times upthread, and I’m normally not one to harp on those things), but they actually got that call right.
Aside from the fact that he was a long way outside the restricted area, so it's dubious that that was what they were actually reviewing, rather than using it as a pretext to review blocking position. Given that Mauer and Brothers looked like they wanted to call it different ways. It's a weird rule.
 

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Such BS.

Wait, what happened to a play needing to be conclusive to be reversed? Borgia admits "At best it's a tie" while never addressing that a defender is allowed to be moving if in position. LeBron was in position but still sliding however the slide doesn't necessarily mean that he isn't already in position. Just an awful decision to reverse an inconclusive play.

LeBron was jobbed 3 times down the stretch.....the clean strip of Durant when he was whistled for a foul, the next possession when Curry(?) took his arm out on penetration and a play on, and this reversal.
He wasn’t square to the shooter and still sliding into position. He wasn’t in position at all. Heck, he was leaning to make sure he closed the last gap. It was an obvious block.
 

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Was it that clear? In the replay I saw it looked like a half hearted TO gesture as time expired....
He looks at the scorer's table and makes a T with his hands. I think there is 1.0 on the clock.

Just another element to the play I hadn't seen mentioned, last night.
 

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He wasn’t square to the shooter and still sliding into position. He wasn’t in position at all. Heck, he was leaning to make sure he closed the last gap. It was an obvious block.
I disagree that it was obvious as LeBron was already there. He was already in position and square in front of Durant on the jump stop but then slid over further which wasn't necessary. At best it's 50/50 imo which is why I feel the reversal was preposterous.
 

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Yea, at best the call was a tossup. Anyone shouting that it was a clear blocking violation most likely has some seriouds Lebron hate going on
 

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Aside from the fact that he was a long way outside the restricted area, so it's dubious that that was what they were actually reviewing, rather than using it as a pretext to review blocking position. Given that Mauer and Brothers looked like they wanted to call it different ways. It's a weird rule.
Yup, the basis for the review was completely bogus. He was very clearly outside the circle, they knew that when initiating the review, but used it as an excuse to look at the entire play.

Fruit of the poisonous tree, my brothas.
 

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I disagree that it was obvious as LeBron was already there. He was already in position and square in front of Durant on the jump stop but then slid over further which wasn't necessary. At best it's 50/50 imo which is why I feel the reversal was preposterous.
We don’t agree on much but we agree on this. Call on the floor HAS to stand there. Got his feet outside the paint and set his lower body square to KD. KD was driving east west not north south.

Unbelievable.

The Thompson ejection is a joke too. How long is Draymond allowed to taunt people before he’s the one who gets hit with the T? It’s just ridiculous.
 

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I disagree that it was obvious as LeBron was already there. He was already in position and square in front of Durant on the jump stop but then slid over further which wasn't necessary. At best it's 50/50 imo which is why I feel the reversal was preposterous.
He has half turned toward the benches. No way was he squared.