If there was no pause last season, I don't see why there would be a pause this season. I bet they just carry on and postpone games when necessary.
2021-2022 NBA Game Thread!
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Delta/Omicron would be one difference. The other would be trying to preserve the Christmas TV schedule - the unofficial opening day of the NBA. A short pause could help if the players stayed home, not so much if they hit the club.
Half of the Chicago Bulls were at Hollywood Hard Rock last Friday the night before they played the Heat. The players, nor many others who would normally be out, are staying home.
I am so fucking confused. I just tuned into the Golden State/Knicks game, and they are talking about Curry breaking the record. He needed 2 coming into the game, but according to ESPN's boxscore, he has 2. But there is a story on the bottom of ESPN saying he hit his third at 7:33 of the 1st quarter?
I can't imagine there is one past or present NBA player that likes Skip Bayless.
ESPN boxscores are rarely accurate during games
He hit 2 of his first 3 attempts and the confetti flew. Game stopped for a bit
The other part of this whole social media tickle fight is KD. Skip trolls (and he is really good at it), KD trolls back. And NBA socials go crazy. Everyone gets what they need and nobody is hurt.
Except maybe Bron but he can cry himself to sleep on his big pillow while using his app.
Except maybe Bron but he can cry himself to sleep on his big pillow while using his app.
SGA made an off-balance 35 foot jumper to tie the game between OKC and New Orleans with a second to play. Then Devonte Graham made a three-quarters-court shot to win it for the Pels.
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6xV80Vo4z4
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6xV80Vo4z4
Gordon Hayward on fire:
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360247
View: https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1471329011267620866
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360247
View: https://twitter.com/statmuse/status/1471329011267620866
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Current NBA top 10 teams, per BB-Ref’s Simple Rating System (basically, net rating adjusted for strength of schedule):
Tier 1
1. GSW +10.46
2. UTA +10.42
Tier 2
3. PHO +5.84
4. CLE +5.76
Tier 3
5. MIA +3.75
6. MIL +3.14
7. BKN +2.75
8. CHI +2.29
9. MEM +2.18
10. ATL +2.06
https://www.basketball-refe...
If you had the Cavs effectively tied with Phoenix and significantly ahead of the Heat, Bucks, and Nets in the Port Cellar pool … come up and collect your prize.
In other news, the Lakers are #21 at -1.57, propped up record-wise by virtue of a bunch of overtime squeakers against crappy teams.
Tier 1
1. GSW +10.46
2. UTA +10.42
Tier 2
3. PHO +5.84
4. CLE +5.76
Tier 3
5. MIA +3.75
6. MIL +3.14
7. BKN +2.75
8. CHI +2.29
9. MEM +2.18
10. ATL +2.06
https://www.basketball-refe...
If you had the Cavs effectively tied with Phoenix and significantly ahead of the Heat, Bucks, and Nets in the Port Cellar pool … come up and collect your prize.
In other news, the Lakers are #21 at -1.57, propped up record-wise by virtue of a bunch of overtime squeakers against crappy teams.
I'm not going to say that I had CLE at 18-12 but I did mention pre-season that Rubio said that this Cavs team was the best defensive team he ever played on so I thought they'd be competitive night-in, night-out.
Obviously, drafting Mobley has really allowed them to play the 3-big lineup and cause huge problems for other teams. JJ Reddick apparently believes that he could be a future DPOY. https://therookiewire.usatoday.com/2021/12/09/jj-redick-evan-mobley-is-a-future-defensive-player-of-the-year/
He's only shooting 33% from three this season so he really isn't that good yet, but I remain impressed with his footwork and how good his offensive stuff looks, even if the ball isn't going through the hoop.
He’s a very good shooter right now. His problem is shot selection that drags down his numbers. Or maybe that’s what you meant I’m not sure.
He reminds me of Harden or Luka where they are fundamentally good shooters, but shoot low percentages due to usage/degree of difficulty. The thing with Ant Man is that I think he is shooting way too many threes, and for a guy with his handle, footwork, athleticism and strength, it's a crime he is only averaging 3.5 FTA per game.
Indeed.
That was a concern coming out of the draft - too willing to settle for long 2's and 3's early in the shot clock. A response among his defenders was to point to the quality of his team mates at UGA. Unlike Houston Harden or Luka or his time UGA, Ant now plays with an elite offense talent in Towns. Those two should be a perfect pairing offensively, given Towns spacing/shooting and Ant's incredible athletic gifts.
When Edward's shot is falling he looks like an All-NBA guy. When its not, he's an inefficient volume scorer who doesn't contribute to winning basketball.
He's shooting .360 from 3 now. Amazing what 1 game can do.
Edwards is going to be awesome.
I had to look this up because I thought there was no way it was true. It's still SSS season I guess!
It also kind of speaks to the absurdity of how we view shooting percentage, particularly three point percentage, in that a few percentage points can be the difference between poor and above league average.
good call on the CAVs, there were a few of you around here that liked the CAVs preseason (CC/HRB also?)
Allen is playing great (better than TL), nice trade last season/follow-up signing.
Seems like Sexton may not be in their future, maybe having his RFA rights is worth Schroder if CAVs go full GFIN mode and C's spiral.
Jackie Mac made a point on the last Simmons podcast that the Cavs basically got Allen for a low first round pick because Brooklyn didn't have a spot for him because they felt obligated to play DeAndre Jordan in order to maintain the Durant/Kyrie relationship. Now you have a situation where Allen is thriving in Cleveland, Kyrie isn't playing for Brooklyn, and Jordan was sent out of town.
I think Houston could have kept Allen in the Harden deal.
Boy did they screw the Harden deal up 6 different ways (along with RWB/Wall deal). The Tilman effect
Couldn’t be a better example of how NBA politics work when building a team.
I was high on the Allen signing even in today’s game bc he is so active and not simply a plodder and I’ve always loved Garland……..but no, I did not have them as the 4th best team in the league.
I noticed Lebron wore a Penguins jersey to the arena last night. Representing Fenway Sports Group.
He already flops like half the Liverpool squad so the buy-in is clearly there.
Bettors haven't caught up with CLE yet as they are league best 23-7 against the spread. https://sports.yahoo.com/nb-as-biggest-surprise-for-bettors-by-far-has-been-the-red-hot-cleveland-cavaliers-221625749.html. I assume at some point bettors will overreact and that number is going to start going the other way.
Article also says that CLE has the league's lowest FG% against on shots inside 5 feet. I guess having three 7-footers(-ish) can really protect the rim.
Mobley/Allen are great, active defenders (that can play big minutes). Same with Rubio/Okoro
Garland is a cusp All-Star PG.
Markkanen/Love are bad defenders (although I'm sure there are some pairing #s that will make LM's defense look better over 21 games). Cedi/Love give them some nice bench shooting where their defense won't get as exposed
The CAVs are having the season the Celtics wish they were having. Top 3 defense/4th in net RTG.
note the C's would have swept them in Cleveland if Jabari had been stapled (instead of Kanter) to the bench in their 1st meeting
I've not watched any of their games - no time - but I'm guessing that Markkanen is fine on the perimeter as his length allows him some margin for error. And as for being taken down low, having Allen and Mobley in back of him really helps.
Interesting team; a lot like NYK last year will be interested in seeing if they have enough offense to go deeper into the playoffs.
Windhorst was on the Lowe Post and was talking about Sexton and how his injury impacts his future role on his team. I think a lot of people would agree that Sexton's NBA future is probably as like a Jordan Clarkson type player, coming off the bench for a good team and getting the green light to shoot. For a guy that was a high pick and a five star recruit, it might be hard to convince him that is his best role, especially given that he averaged 24 ppg last season, and probably in his mind thinks himself as a future All-NBA guy. I don't know if Cleveland will be able to put him in that role; it's really hard for guys to thrive like that on the teams that drafted them after they already tried to "build" around him as their top star. They almost need a fresh start to get in that role; and you can look at Clarkson, Jamaal Crawford, Lou Williams, Schroeder, etc. It took them going to new teams to really thrive in that role.
He's not a PG and it's really tough to play in today's NBA with two 6-1" guards, even if you have a wall of seven footers behind them. Sexton's not a useless NBA player, but he probably isn't a starting player in the NBA because he isn't a PG, and doesn't do enough outside of scoring and doesn't have the size to share the floor with another small player. He'd need to be on the right team; with a taller natural PG who can guard wings.
The problem with the Cavs is they have no wings, and it's really hard to win in the NBA without those. Okoro has no offensive game. Osman can do some things but is best served working against bench players. Lamar Stevens, Denzel Valentine, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler; those aren't really guys you expect to do much in a playoff series. They will need to make a trade or maybe get super lucky on the buyout market to try and improve their wing situation. Not sure who they trade; but Sexton would theoretically be the most expendable young asset you could theoretically get something good coming back.
He's not a PG and it's really tough to play in today's NBA with two 6-1" guards, even if you have a wall of seven footers behind them. Sexton's not a useless NBA player, but he probably isn't a starting player in the NBA because he isn't a PG, and doesn't do enough outside of scoring and doesn't have the size to share the floor with another small player. He'd need to be on the right team; with a taller natural PG who can guard wings.
The problem with the Cavs is they have no wings, and it's really hard to win in the NBA without those. Okoro has no offensive game. Osman can do some things but is best served working against bench players. Lamar Stevens, Denzel Valentine, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler; those aren't really guys you expect to do much in a playoff series. They will need to make a trade or maybe get super lucky on the buyout market to try and improve their wing situation. Not sure who they trade; but Sexton would theoretically be the most expendable young asset you could theoretically get something good coming back.
The NYK magic carpet is an excellent comp
Randle/RJ breakouts
+ MRob/Noel/Taj backline defense
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The problem with the Cavs is they have no wings, and it's really hard to win in the NBA without those. Okoro has no offensive game. Osman can do some things but is best served working against bench players. Lamar Stevens, Denzel Valentine, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler; those aren't really guys you expect to do much in a playoff series. They will need to make a trade or maybe get super lucky on the buyout market to try and improve their wing situation. Not sure who they trade; but Sexton would theoretically be the most expendable young asset you could theoretically get something good coming back.
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Okoro's shooting is starting to come around, 48/37/80 over the last month. If that's a real thing he could be a big part of what they need.
The problem with the Cavs is they have no wings, and it's really hard to win in the NBA without those. Okoro has no offensive game. Osman can do some things but is best served working against bench players. Lamar Stevens, Denzel Valentine, Dean Wade, Dylan Windler; those aren't really guys you expect to do much in a playoff series. They will need to make a trade or maybe get super lucky on the buyout market to try and improve their wing situation. Not sure who they trade; but Sexton would theoretically be the most expendable young asset you could theoretically get something good coming back.
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Okoro's shooting is starting to come around, 48/37/80 over the last month. If that's a real thing he could be a big part of what they need.
I’m not saying that he would fix the wing deficiency, but would you trade Schroder for Sexton?
This is what Koby had to say about Sexton pre- injury. Things may have changed with the injury and their play. I suggested a Sexton/Schroder swap yesterday
https://cavaliersnation.com/2021/10/17/koby-altman-speaks-glowingly-about-collin-sexton-when-asked-about-his-future-we-want-to-have-him-here/
“Collin is one of our first draft picks in this era,” Altman answered when asked about how the long-term contract talks with Sexton is going. “In terms of where we’re going, and we obviously want him around long term. I can’t get too deep into the discussions. But from an intangible standpoint, from the fact that he wanted to be in Cleveland, Ohio and help us grow this thing from the start, he’s gotten better every single year and at 22 years old, averaged 24 points a game on efficient shooting. He’s about what we want to be about — a gritty tough group that loves to be here and wants to push this thing forward. So I can’t say enough good things about Collin and his intangibles and what he brings to the table and what he wants to do here. So we’re working through it. But he knows that this is his home, and we want to have him here.”
Koby may say what he wants, but can he afford to pay Sexton after next year, lose him for nothing, or go through the rest of this season without adding to his roster?
fair comment
I have a high opinion of Schroder. He could definitely help a contender. If the C's finish December under .500, I'd like to see Brad explore dealing DS for at least a 1st or a good young/controlled player (that aren't part of the top8 rotation of said contender). They could be kept or used as part of a bigger deal to grab our White Whale/3rd star.
The names I'd toss out: CLE/Sexton, CHI/White, ATL/Reddish, DEN/Hyland+, GSW/Moody
I have begun to look at Schroder as a placeholder to be flipped for value that extends beyond this season. Do you have any targets for the Fournier TPE ($17.1M), perhaps as a third team to absorb a salary and help facilitate a deal for others (with sweeteners coming our way)?
Yea, I guess they keep DS if they can be in the top 6 of the EC? .500 is purgatory this season and that's all they have been so far.
Haven't given the Fournier TPE much thought. Probably has to be used with a team in blow-up mode ala Orlando last season. May net someone like Wood from Houston so Tilman Fertitta can line his pockets while just taking a pick/kids (1st + Nesmith)
Portland needs to re-boot at some point. I'd love to see Powell added for young assets.
So Brad should be busy talking to contenders & tankers
I’m wondering if we’re more likely to absorb some level of bad contract (Pat Beverley, Thaddeus Young, etc.) to help facilitate a larger deal and collect an asset for doing business. There would be a certain irony in acquiring Sexton for Schroder and two seconds for the TPE, bringing closure to the Irving and Fournier deals.
I think the Wolves like Pat Bev
https://hoopshype.com/rumor/wolves-giving-patrick-beverley-a-contract-extension/
Nobody has discussed the TPE much around here. I think they have until the summer to use them, right?
Not sure the tax penalties will be worth the added 2nds. If anything I see the C's adding an asset to ship out #41 and avoiding the repeater.
