9/8 - Win It For James Collins
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The Baltimore Orioles do literally every part of baseball better than the Red Sox. Every single part.
Houck really can't get through the order a third time, can he?
Career:
1st time: .196/.283/.276/.559
2nd time: .264/.326/.385/.710
3rd time: .272/.362/.556/.917
Tonight:
1st time: bb, k, 1b, F8, P2, k, F9, k, 1b - 2-8, 0 runs, 1 bb, 3 k
2nd time: 4-6-3, 2b, 6-3, HR, k, 3U, 6-3, 1-3, 6-3 - 2-9, 1 run, 0 bb, 1 k
3rd time: 1b, 4-3, bb, 1b, k, 2b, 1b - 4-5, 4 runs, 1 bb, 1 k
It just explodes that third time through the lineup. It may be time to just consider him to be a relief ace, a guy who can pitch multiple times a week, multiple innings, and be extremely effective in that role, because his ability to be a starter is massively compromised by his inability to get through the order a third time.
Career:
1st time: .196/.283/.276/.559
2nd time: .264/.326/.385/.710
3rd time: .272/.362/.556/.917
Tonight:
1st time: bb, k, 1b, F8, P2, k, F9, k, 1b - 2-8, 0 runs, 1 bb, 3 k
2nd time: 4-6-3, 2b, 6-3, HR, k, 3U, 6-3, 1-3, 6-3 - 2-9, 1 run, 0 bb, 1 k
3rd time: 1b, 4-3, bb, 1b, k, 2b, 1b - 4-5, 4 runs, 1 bb, 1 k
It just explodes that third time through the lineup. It may be time to just consider him to be a relief ace, a guy who can pitch multiple times a week, multiple innings, and be extremely effective in that role, because his ability to be a starter is massively compromised by his inability to get through the order a third time.
If Rutschman were a So x batter there, he would have popped up the first pitch or struck out on three pitches outside the zone.
I’ve seen this all year. I can’t stand them but I give them their due. They are a very good team, far better than the Red Sox.
Can you get a job with the Sox? Apparently, they don't have the resources to gather this information.
And on the pop up, at least one of the Red Sox runners would have been doubled off
The major problem is that none of the Sox young pitchers, can get through the order a third time. Even Bello isn’t great (700/766/855).
I'm totally fine with Houck being used as a starter this year. They needed to see what he can do. But at this point, it seems like there's enough information to go on for 2024 moving forward.
Yeah it's something Bello will have to improve on. But he's so good otherwise that it's ok. I think Houck is what he is, which is a tremendously capable reliever that should be able to give them 90-100 innings of excellent pitching. He's just not cut out to be a starter unless he adds some sort of weapon that he's not yet discovered.
I don’t disagree- but that leaves a 24 rotation of Bello and Sale. Maybe Pivetta?
Can you build a staff with a bunch of openers / relievers who only go through the order 2x? Maybe, but I have a hard time seeing this org pull it off.
You can live with Houck at the back end of the rotation, and hope he improves, because average MLB starts are still in the 5-6 inning range.
You just have to hope that the third time nonsense doesn't bite before he gets there
You just have to hope that the third time nonsense doesn't bite before he gets there
Nice. Would be cool if the tying run was coming to the plate because we hadn't put in human gas can Joe Jaques to let up an extra run.
I know the last couple of weeks have been frustrating, but I choose to look at the positive. They have given the front office and coaching staff a very clear vision of a blueprint going forward.
The Red Sox need to make improvements in pitching, hitting and defense. If they can make significant improvements in those areas. 2024 could be bright. Also baserunning,
The Red Sox need to make improvements in pitching, hitting and defense. If they can make significant improvements in those areas. 2024 could be bright. Also baserunning,
it is depressing. They won’t be able to afford to keep all this talent, but the Sox will be looking up at them in the standings for the foreseeable future.
I believe they also need to improve on when to take pitchers out of games, and which pitchers they pick to replace them. Cora needs to get some coaching to make him better in this regard.
Umps are daring MLB to institute ABS system next year with how they are blowing easy calls
Semi-serious question here: What if the ump decides he's not going to call what the system tells him to call?
Thanks alot guys. Good thing I have a huge, unopened bottle of whiskey handy.
I don’t know what has been worse in game threads. The Mookie hagiography or stressing about the impending 20 year Orioles dynasty. Fuck all of them!
Sticking with Jaques for the shut down inning after finally getting on the board. I like it. /end sarcasm
