Heading to Bristol Country House of Corrections, which likely means a murder charge, per FOX 25.
Trautwein's Degree said:Death, I asked a detective about this. He said Hernandez pissed off the cops. He said that even on homicide charges - lawyers and law enforcement frequently arrange for surrender. He does not believe Hernandez nor his attorneys knew the arrest was coming. He also cited the smashed cell phone and surveillance system as grounds enough for the cops to get pissed enough to perp walk him out of his home.
ZP1 said:Interesting. Bad news for Hernandez if Sutter is going to treat this as a centerpiece case for his career. And for the record, my last post was entirely snark directed at the website and wasn't meant to imply anything negative about Sutter himself.
NortheasternPJ said:FOX25 now reporting that Patriots will not go after the signing bonus money.
Having handled a few myself, it's absolutely the norm. Lots of things can go wrong when someone is arrested by surprise. It can put a client's life in danger. In the very few criminal matters that I've handled during the investigatory phase, I always counsel surrender. I also always build a "relationship" with the detective. I call and say that my client has invoked his right to counsel and will peacefully surrender if a warrant is obtained for his arrest. I've never had that request refuse. 'Deathofthebambino said:Figured it had to be one or the other. In a previous life, I handled a few surrenders for clients. It's actually the norm, unless the police are afraid of flight or destruction of evidence. I was shocked to see the perp walk this morning, and even more shocked to see that his arms were cuffed inside his shirt. To not even let him put on a shirt was pretty fucking clear that the relationship between him and authorities was somewhere between sour and completely hostile. Seems to me he made it adversarial from the beginning, but like I said, if he's the trigger man, it doesn't really matter. He had nothing he could have given them. If he wasn't, and he's protecting others, he's a fucking moron and deserves whatever happens.
Ed Hillel said:Schefter just said that, by releasing Hernandez now, Pats have waived the right to recoup his cap money. Is that true? You have to stick it out with the player on the roster in a situation like this?
Adam SchefterVerified account @AdamSchefter 4m
By releasing Aaron Hernandez today, Patriots have waived all rights to recoup bonus money or salary through the CBA
But if they do it that way, can they get it back against the cap, or do they just get the money itself back? I guess if they can void the contract, it wouldn't count against the cap anymore?Corsi said:
Not really what they said. They were reiterating Schefter's report that says by releasing Hernandez, they can't go after the signing bonus money via the CBA. That doesn't mean they can't/won't go after it in court.
redsox13 said:This is ridiculous and a terrible overreaction. What ever happened to the presumption of innocence?
Sacrificing the strength on the team on the field in order to avoid a POTENTIALLY messy situation is incredibly discouraging as a fan of the sport. This bullshit Boy Scout attitude that the Pats take is a complete farce.
LoneWarrior1 said:Does anyone know what time (or if there is a time) for his arraignment. The courthouse is near my house and I'm trying to avoid the zoo.
CoffeeNerdness said:Will the arraignment shed much light beyond the charges?
RSN Diaspora said:Oh dear. I thought the Supreme Court just struck the Hernandez case down.
smastroyin said:More is known, just not by us.
Wills Eeks said:He looks armless in the ESPN picture. "Just a man with no arms, defiant against a world where most people have two."
mikeford said:"@DougKyedNESN: FOX 25 just said Hernandez will go to Bristol County Jail after arraignment. This is a no bail situation."
No bail = it's murder
CoffeeNerdness said:Will the arraignment shed much light beyond the charges?
There were a few folks making the "innocent until proven guilty" and "how can they cut him without knowing the charges" arguments. They have since backpedaled.bsj said:Wait...There are people here who think the Patriots SHOULDNT have cut him?
bsj said:Wait...There are people here who think the Patriots SHOULDNT have cut him?
Hambone said:I figured they could at least test the waters and see if they could get a late round pick in next year's draft.
Yea, I don't think Goodell, even as powerfull as he is, can bend common law contract interpretation to meet his whims.ZP1 said:Completely a shot in the dark here, but I wonder if they could have made some sort of special deal with Goodell to get an exception to the normal rules (if what Schefter said is true). It's directly in the interest of the league to have Hernandez completely out of the NFL as this sort of thing starts to pick up steam. It's hard to imagine the Patriots not holding off for a bit if there were substantial cap concerns involved.
Give him some time. Maybe he's only charged with obstruction, and maybe he "finds religion" and maybe he miraculously gets the mainstream media to ignore his involvement in a homicide.dcmissle said:The cap and so forth are the least of it. I don't understand why people can't grasp why you can't have murder defendants on your roster. Period. Now is different than 2000, and this guy is no Ray Lewis.
Are you fucking high? Who the hell would even TAKE him right now, much less give up compensation.Hambone said:I figured they could at least test the waters and see if they could get a late round pick in next year's draft.
Is there a chance that the Pats know he's going to be charged with murder and how strong the case is against Hernandez?fairlee76 said:There were a few folks making the "innocent until proven guilty" and "how can they cut him without knowing the charges" arguments. They have since backpedaled.
SpacemanzGerbil said:Has anyone checked in with Larry Fitz for his reaction to there being an opening in the Patriots WR corp?
Mystic Merlin said:Are you fucking high? Who the hell would even TAKE him right now, much less give up compensation.
He was kidding....right?Mystic Merlin said:Are you fucking high? Who the hell would even TAKE him right now, much less give up compensation.
bsj said:Wait...There are people here who think the Patriots SHOULDNT have cut him?
Joke, yes?Hambone said:I figured they could at least test the waters and see if they could get a late round pick in next year's draft.
He might fit in with the Bengals, and the Ravens are down one murderer.Mystic Merlin said:Are you fucking high? Who the hell would even TAKE him right now, much less give up compensation.
BULLSHIT.Hambone said:
The Raiders? Of course the pending trial complicates a transition to a new team, as he might not be available for mini-camp to learn a new offense.
There's also the chance I wasn't being serious.