College Hockey 2014-2015
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Title IX is based on the entire athletic department, not one sport. We don't see Women's Football, do we?Fred not Lynn said:
It goes both ways though of course, BC doesn't have men's volleyball, for example.
jsinger121 said:
No brainer is correct. I highly doubt many top-level recruits will flock to ASU for the weather. You have to know these kids. They are rink rats. Not ot mention the Beanpot and the legacy of playing top teams night in and night out ......Hockey East, ECAC ...
The presence of talent on the west coast is pretty prevalent now, specifically Southern California which is pumping out about one first rounder a year (just going on memory here so may be off...), so I don't think you're entirely correct.
But seldom does a school just have enough surplus women's spots to just add a men's sport without a corresponding women's sport to balance it out.Dan to Theo to Ben said:
Looks like ASU is adding other stuff though.
These west coast schools will have plenty of opportunities to play top level competition. Teams will jump at the opportunity to travel out west for recruiting and vise versa.gryoung said:
Once other PAC12 teams make the jump players will want to play out west. Imagine if Arizona, USC or UCLA made the jump as well. Recruits will want to go to one of these big schools especially if the PAC12 becomes a real conference. ASU is the first of many teams that will consider and eventually make this jump.
As much of an advocate I am for the traditional powers, I think ASU will do very well, if they get the right coach who can keep his players focused when he needs to.
FYI and FWIW (maybe not much), BC, BU, and NU each have a skater from Socal. (San Clemente, Escondido, Chino Hills)
And obviously there are also kids from Alaska and British Columbia that will be intrigued by staying on the left coast.
Will be interesting to see if Denver, Colo College etc. will have a tougher recruiting job, as well.
And obviously there are also kids from Alaska and British Columbia that will be intrigued by staying on the left coast.
Will be interesting to see if Denver, Colo College etc. will have a tougher recruiting job, as well.
Two losses over the weekend for Michigan Tech made their stay at #1 a short one. BU now ranked #1 with 42 votes. North Dakota #2 with 3 votes, and Minnesota 3rd with 1 vote. UML up one spot to 4th, and Harvard broke into the top 20, ranked 18th.
Here's the current Top 25 in the ACHA: http://achahockey.org/view/achahockey/acha-hockey-news/news_233290
1
Arizona State
2
Central Oklahoma
3
Stony Brook
4
Ohio
5
Adrian
6
Lindenwood
7
Oklahoma
8
Liberty
9
Robert Morris (IL)
10
Rhode Island
11
Minot State
12
Illinois
13
Delaware
14
Iowa State
15
Niagara
16
Buffalo
17
Davenport
18
Arizona
19
Colorado State
20
Michigan-Dearborn
21
Robert Morris Pennsylvania
22
Syracuse
23
Lebanon Valley
24
Colorado
25
Oakland
having perused a couple of the rosters, you see a few local kids, plus a mix of guys from pretty much everywhere. ASU has kids from AZ, Oklahoma has kids for Okla and Texas. had no idea until this season some of these schools had programs, much less how competitive they actually are.
1
Arizona State
2
Central Oklahoma
3
Stony Brook
4
Ohio
5
Adrian
6
Lindenwood
7
Oklahoma
8
Liberty
9
Robert Morris (IL)
10
Rhode Island
11
Minot State
12
Illinois
13
Delaware
14
Iowa State
15
Niagara
16
Buffalo
17
Davenport
18
Arizona
19
Colorado State
20
Michigan-Dearborn
21
Robert Morris Pennsylvania
22
Syracuse
23
Lebanon Valley
24
Colorado
25
Oakland
having perused a couple of the rosters, you see a few local kids, plus a mix of guys from pretty much everywhere. ASU has kids from AZ, Oklahoma has kids for Okla and Texas. had no idea until this season some of these schools had programs, much less how competitive they actually are.
Harvard beats BU in OT. Now 6-1-2. Best start I can remember in at least a decade.
edit: Although the Crimson were outshot 42-24, Eichel was pointless for the first time this season.
also, Colin Blackwell played his first game since 2013 vs. Bentley last week. Would be nice to add him back.
edit: Although the Crimson were outshot 42-24, Eichel was pointless for the first time this season.
also, Colin Blackwell played his first game since 2013 vs. Bentley last week. Would be nice to add him back.
Northeastern shocks #3 Minnesota 3-2 on a late goal by Kevin Roy. Huskies have played a lot better the last couple weekends, but the hole they've dug is still huge.
Michigan sweeps RPI. Good set of wins for a program that is struggling right now.
I'd anticipate that team of the week will be Minnesota State that swept Lake State by an aggregate score of 10-0 or Western Michigan for beating Ohio State and Union.
I'd anticipate that team of the week will be Minnesota State that swept Lake State by an aggregate score of 10-0 or Western Michigan for beating Ohio State and Union.
BU loses 2-0 at home vs. Dartmouth, who is .500 in the ECAC.
I guess noone really wants to hold the #1 spot this year.
I guess noone really wants to hold the #1 spot this year.
Given the youth of its program, I never expected to see Penn State here. Early...yes, but includes splits with UMass-Lowell and Michigan, and a sweep of Wisconsin (who, to be fair, has a very young team). All these games were on the road for the Lions.
[tablegrid= B1G Standings ] Conference Overall Pts. GP W L T SOW GF GA GP W L T GF GA 1 Penn State 9 4 3 1 0 0 13 14 15 9 4 2 52 39 2 Michigan 6 3 2 1 0 0 18 7 14 8 6 0 57 41 3 Michigan State 5 4 1 2 1 1 6 12 15 5 9 1 32 40 4 Minnesota 4 2 1 0 1 0 8 3 14 9 4 1 48 30 5 Ohio State 3 3 1 2 0 0 7 11 15 5 9 1 38 48 6 Wisconsin 0 2 0 2 0 0 4 9 12 1 10 1 21 41 Updated through all games of December 6.
[tablegrid= B1G Standings ]
The question is does Red have the dignity to walk away because if he doesn't does Michigan have the balls to fire him?
Don't think there's any way he's fired, but I did hear through the proverbial grapevine that he was ready to walk away a couple years ago and changed his mind after the team ended the season with a run of wins (nearly won ccha tourney, which would have been an automatic bid to the NCAA).jsinger121 said:
You all know I love Red and appreciate all he has done for the program, so yeah, that comment deserves a "wow."
Michigan has as much talent as anyone in the country, but the results aren't coming from the talent. There are NHL draft picks littered all over the roster, but the play itself was quite poor. During the BC game, it was hard not to notice how much better BC was coached. Michigan had no breakout of the defensive zone. The breakout consisted of trying to float the puck in between and in front of the BC defensemen and hoping to connect with a forward. The pinches by the defense was poor. The forwards weren't taking the puck to the net. While outshooting BC by close to 2-1, most of those shots were from the outside. BC didn't give Michigan and space on the ice. They were disciplined and won most 50-50 puck battles. The contrast between the two teams wasn't so much eye opening as reiterating a feeling I've been trying to ignore some time.
Michigan has as much talent as anyone in the country, but the results aren't coming from the talent. There are NHL draft picks littered all over the roster, but the play itself was quite poor. During the BC game, it was hard not to notice how much better BC was coached. Michigan had no breakout of the defensive zone. The breakout consisted of trying to float the puck in between and in front of the BC defensemen and hoping to connect with a forward. The pinches by the defense was poor. The forwards weren't taking the puck to the net. While outshooting BC by close to 2-1, most of those shots were from the outside. BC didn't give Michigan and space on the ice. They were disciplined and won most 50-50 puck battles. The contrast between the two teams wasn't so much eye opening as reiterating a feeling I've been trying to ignore some time.
Not out of the question since Tom Landry got fired and he was beloved in Dallas. I'm just saying if he doesn't go quietly then for the benefit of the Michigan something needs to happen.
Maybe they can come up with a situation similar to what FSU worked out with Bowden, where Bobby reportedly was allowed to "hand pick" his successor - Jimbo Fisher. Not sure how Wiseman is viewed by those closer to Ann Arbor.
Continuing on the theme of underperforming talent at UM, they have five guys playing on the world jr team this year (realize all five may not last but still).
As for Red's successor, Mel Pearson (currently coach of Mich Tech) used to assistant coach at UM and has seemingly been a big loss to the program. Guessing they'd love to bring him back.
As for Red's successor, Mel Pearson (currently coach of Mich Tech) used to assistant coach at UM and has seemingly been a big loss to the program. Guessing they'd love to bring him back.
Speaking of coaching, is Norm Bazin a candidate for a BC/Michigan type of job? Would he leave his former school to take anther college job, a professional one?
Of course it's difficult to speculate but Bazin has been one of the top hockey coaches of late.
Of course it's difficult to speculate but Bazin has been one of the top hockey coaches of late.
Pearson would be the guy.
Three of those players (Compher, Larkin, Werenski) are locks. Not sure about Motte or Downing. The team has a lot of defensive talent, so I'd imagine Downing gets cut. Motte would bring some experience, but the WJC team is pretty damn talented as is. Losing those three would still be a significant hit as those are two second round picks and a projected top 10 pick this year.
Three of those players (Compher, Larkin, Werenski) are locks. Not sure about Motte or Downing. The team has a lot of defensive talent, so I'd imagine Downing gets cut. Motte would bring some experience, but the WJC team is pretty damn talented as is. Losing those three would still be a significant hit as those are two second round picks and a projected top 10 pick this year.
This would not be good for Boston College.
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/demkos-junior-rights-traded-will-he-leave-boston-college/
http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/16/demkos-junior-rights-traded-will-he-leave-boston-college/
Sure but it's really just baseless speculation right now. I have no idea how often these trades go down but I'd be more concerned if it starts turning into a Milano-esque situation.
A great story on Harvard's Jimmy Vesey. They call his dad the Crash Davis of hockey,also talk about the ups and downs that took him to Belmont Hill and back to North Reading, and his rise at the WJC. And of course his great senior season which got noticed when they beat BU.
http://hockeythisweek.com/vesey-2-0/
http://hockeythisweek.com/vesey-2-0/
Great article - thanks for sharing. I used to call Harvard hockey games on radio for WHRB, back in the mid-to-late 90s when hockey was probably the biggest sport on campus...it's quite disorienting to realize the Crimson have finally come back to national prominence again!
So BU ties Union without Eichel, and North Dakota is idle, which results in ND leap-frogging BU for #1 in the polls. BU has the most #1 votes at 18, Harvard next with 15 (though ranked #3), and ND third with 13.
Although Northeastern started off 0-8-1, they're 7-2-1 since, with wins over a #3 Minnesota, #16 Providence, a sweep of a St. Lawrence team that had received votes, Merrimack who was on the cusp of being ranked (and who are now #18), and beat #19 Yale last night; they have a home-and-home with BC this weekend.
The Beanpot is shaping up to be a must-see this year, and it's no longer looking like NEU will be a glorified tuneup for the Championship for BC.
Although Northeastern started off 0-8-1, they're 7-2-1 since, with wins over a #3 Minnesota, #16 Providence, a sweep of a St. Lawrence team that had received votes, Merrimack who was on the cusp of being ranked (and who are now #18), and beat #19 Yale last night; they have a home-and-home with BC this weekend.
The Beanpot is shaping up to be a must-see this year, and it's no longer looking like NEU will be a glorified tuneup for the Championship for BC.
He was back, but they were resting him because of WJC.kenneycb said:
Michigan won the GLI with wins over Tech and State. The Wolverines play the Gophers this weekend.
Saw Yale dominate Harvard again at MSG last night. Final score was 4-1. Very one sided game as Yale, which has sometimes struggled on offense this year, outshot Harvard 42-21. Yale has beaten two top ten ranked teams in a week, so hopefully we're building momentum for the remainder of the ECAC schedule.
Disappointing crowd at the Garden last night though after last years near sell out. Announced crowd was a bit less than 13,000. I hope that doesn't bode ill for the future of this event
Disappointing crowd at the Garden last night though after last years near sell out. Announced crowd was a bit less than 13,000. I hope that doesn't bode ill for the future of this event
Northeastern looked pretty damn good against BC Friday night. Only managed to pull out a tie, though, BC overwhelmed them to grab the tying goal with under 3 minutes to go.
Saturday they didn't look great, BC winning easily 4-2.
My official prediction is that this is the year NU finally gets past BC, but instead loses to Eichel and BU or (probably more appropriately) Harvard.
Saturday they didn't look great, BC winning easily 4-2.
mt8thsw9th said:
My official prediction is that this is the year NU finally gets past BC, but instead loses to Eichel and BU or (probably more appropriately) Harvard.
That was Harvard's worst game of the year, by a lot. Not even their feared Power Play worked. Only their 2nd loss, the first of which was 2-1 to Yale at Bright. There's always some excuse for these guys, such as only playing one game since Dec 6 when they beat RPI on 12/30.Philip Jeff Frye said:
Interestingly, the MSG game doesn't count for ECAC standings because they will play Yale later at Yale. Hopefully 3rd time's a charm. they also have 5 more games before facing BU in the Beanpot.
It's not just Super Bowl hype week, it's Beanpot Hype Week!
I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about BC, BU, Harvard since I haven't seen much college hockey this year. But Northeastern is not the pushover that everyone thought they were when they opened with that 0-8-1 stretch. 9-2-3 in their last 14, including 3-0-1 versus Vermont and Notre Dame the past two weeks. There's a lot of things to be positive about, including:
- Two solid goalies, playing well, in Clay Witt and Derick Roy. Roy's started 3 of the last 4 games, including wins over Vermont and Notre Dame. I thought Witt was the clear starter as recently as last week so I'll be interested to see what Madigan does in the biggest game of the year to this point.
- Power play is scoring 23% of the time in the last 8 games and looks the best it has in potentially years
- Kevin "Monday Night" Roy and Mike Szmatula have 14 of the last 34 Husky goals. Roy has 8 in his last 9 games (
I think the competition is too much for this year though. My prediction is NU finally gets past BC, but loses to BU in the championship. Regardless it should be a hell of a time next Monday night.
I'm not gonna pretend to know anything about BC, BU, Harvard since I haven't seen much college hockey this year. But Northeastern is not the pushover that everyone thought they were when they opened with that 0-8-1 stretch. 9-2-3 in their last 14, including 3-0-1 versus Vermont and Notre Dame the past two weeks. There's a lot of things to be positive about, including:
- Two solid goalies, playing well, in Clay Witt and Derick Roy. Roy's started 3 of the last 4 games, including wins over Vermont and Notre Dame. I thought Witt was the clear starter as recently as last week so I'll be interested to see what Madigan does in the biggest game of the year to this point.
- Power play is scoring 23% of the time in the last 8 games and looks the best it has in potentially years
- Kevin "Monday Night" Roy and Mike Szmatula have 14 of the last 34 Husky goals. Roy has 8 in his last 9 games (
I think the competition is too much for this year though. My prediction is NU finally gets past BC, but loses to BU in the championship. Regardless it should be a hell of a time next Monday night.
It's Beanpot week, so time for Harvard to turn back into a pumpkin. Union nailed the 5-4 last night at the Bright, avenging a tie earlier in the season.
After an extraordinary start to the year in both zones, injuries have derailed the defensive play for the Crimson. In their first 13 games, they gave up 3 goals twice, and had 2 shutouts. In 2015, they are 2-4, allowing 21 goals.
They've lost top D man McNally for the rest of the regular season (16 pts, +14), and are also missing Brayden Jaw on D.
While the top line of Vesey, Criscuolo, and Moy continue to produce at a high level (Vesey has points in 19 straight games), Kerfoot, Malone and Esposito have all missed time. The Crimson have been able to pot 20 goals in their 6 games in 2015, but Criscuolo and Vesey have 13 of them.
So it's not exactly the same lineup that beat BU 3-2 in OT back on 11/25.
After an extraordinary start to the year in both zones, injuries have derailed the defensive play for the Crimson. In their first 13 games, they gave up 3 goals twice, and had 2 shutouts. In 2015, they are 2-4, allowing 21 goals.
They've lost top D man McNally for the rest of the regular season (16 pts, +14), and are also missing Brayden Jaw on D.
While the top line of Vesey, Criscuolo, and Moy continue to produce at a high level (Vesey has points in 19 straight games), Kerfoot, Malone and Esposito have all missed time. The Crimson have been able to pot 20 goals in their 6 games in 2015, but Criscuolo and Vesey have 13 of them.
So it's not exactly the same lineup that beat BU 3-2 in OT back on 11/25.