Not if Brady felt all 24 and picked the 12 softest. Could also account for one ball being within range as well.Ed Hillel said:The one thing that keeps me from the "refs didn't use the gauge" thing is that, apparently, all the backup footballs were within range. Wouldn't they have had similar underinflation issues if the refs hadn't been thorough pre-game?
Love this.Morning Woodhead said:If the Pats were still allowed to tape the sidelines, we'd have this case closed by now. This is the what the NFL gets
He could have said nothing and that'd be zero help. No one else active and at his level has said a peep.drleather2001 said:
Ya, fuck that guy. If he had any credibility he would have said "Ya, this isn't a big deal". Not "Oh, well...overinflated is different...um...deflating? Totally advantageous."
RedOctober3829 said:
Doug Kyed @DougKyedNESN 4m4 minutes ago
NFL statement doesn't specify that the officials used pressure gauge pregame with Patriots footballs. Only says they were inspected.
Yeah, fuck him.DourDoerr said:He came out and said that he likes his footballs overinflated and encouraged and/or quietly accepted ones that "happened" to be that way game time. Read this article. It's incredible that it hasn't ended the whole controversy.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2015/01/20/packers-aaron-rodgers-prefers-overinflated-footballs-likes-to-push-the-limit/
the Green Bay Packers quarterback said that, while there is an advantage to an underinflated ball (especially for quarterbacks with small hands), he favors a rule mandating only a minimum amount of air. There’s no benefit, he said, to an overinflated football and, because he has big hands, that’s what he prefers. And, he added referees often remove air from balls during games because they prefer them on the flatter side
Corsi said:Is this for fucking real???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgMXjvEjWaY
RedOctober3829 said:
Doug Kyed @DougKyedNESN 4m4 minutes ago
NFL statement doesn't specify that the officials used pressure gauge pregame with Patriots footballs. Only says they were inspected.
As originally reported by FOX Sports' Jay Glazer, the NFL is investigating the San Diego Chargers for using a Stickum like substance in their 35-24 Monday night loss to Denver.
Glazer tweeted that "NFL Security has already begun investigation as SD equipment man was hiding illegal sticky substance and giving to players. Line judge saw it and had it confiscated and sent to broncos and league. League takes any competitive advantage issue EXTREMELY serious."
If I said to you in an official statement surrounding a controversy that I tested the pool temperature and found it was between 72.5-73.5 degrees Fahrenheit would you wonder if I used a thermometer vs. my hand?Corsi said:
This is where I'm at. They're being so vague around this point.
DourDoerr said:He could have said nothing and that'd be zero help. No one else active and at his level has said a peep.
Eric Kester, who worked as a ball boy for the Chicago Bears in 2003, said part of his job was to work with the quarterback before the game to prepare the balls.
“I recall them having a pressure gauge in the locker room, but most often they just squeezed the balls, turned them over in their hands a few times each, and inspected the laces,” he explained. “I don’t recall them ever rejecting one of our balls.
“My thought process was, ‘Let’s get the balls exactly the way our quarterback wants them, and if the refs reject one or two before the game, no big deal. But there’s no harm giving them our ideal balls and hoping they make it through inspection.'”
Is it really all that unreasonable to wonder if the officials who checked the balls before the AFC Championship Game went with the “squeeze test” instead of measuring the actual air pressure? And if that did happen, would they admit to the NFL that they did not do their jobs the way they were supposed to?
Good Call.......NortheasternPJ said:Maybe they will find footage of John Harbaugh on the sidelines deflating the balls to setup the Pats. Seems likely as anything at this point.
Curt S Loew said:Now I'm convinced that it was Harbaugh with a fake mustache in Pats gear who deflated the balls to create the whole sideshow.
Maybe the Patriots purposely underinflated half the footballs, knowing that sometimes balls out of spec get through (as Rodgers noted). If the refs decide to check one ball with a gauge, they have a 50-50 chance of getting the underinflated balls through.Ed Hillel said:The one thing that keeps me from the "refs didn't use the gauge" thing is that, apparently, all the backup footballs were within range. Wouldn't they have had similar underinflation issues if the refs hadn't been thorough pre-game?
amarshal2 said:If I said to you in an official statement surrounding a controversy that I tested the pool temperature and found it was between 72.5-73.5 degrees Fahrenheit would you wonder if I used a thermometer vs. my hand?
Except Jim Irsay didn't let them do that, as he went to his mouthpiece before the league had a chance to take matters into their own hands.NortheasternPJ said:If the NFL wasn't completely incompetent, which is what they are at this point by letting this destroy the biggest sporting event in the world, they would have just come out and said the Patriots are fined $25,000 per the rules. Minor infraction, happens all the time, referenced the 5 other cases we've heard of (Rodgers, Vikings etc.)
Then ripped Patriots, Kraft, BB and Brady behind the scenes.
What's that mean? A blood relative there gave a relative up?nolasoxfan said:
Charlestown says otherwise.
Based on what? There's no evidence the Pats broke the rules, yet.NortheasternPJ said:If the NFL wasn't completely incompetent, which is what they are at this point by letting this destroy the biggest sporting event in the world, they would have just come out and said the Patriots are fined $25,000 per the rules. Minor infraction, happens all the time, referenced the 5 other cases we've heard of (Rodgers, Vikings etc.)
LogansDad said:Except Jim Irsay didn't let them do that, as he went to his mouthpiece before the league had a chance to take matters into their own hands.
I'd lawyer up after your "Brady is the best all weather quarterback" comments. What did you know and do you think it's appropriate to apologize to the American public?Deathofthebambino said:I DON'T GIVE A FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Corsi said:
King himself said he doesn't know if they used a gauge pre-game, but knows they did mid-game and post-game. That doesn't raise a red flag to you?
Would there even be an investigation going on if they came up .2 under? I'm guessing they would have had to attribute that to environmental factors.brandonchristensen said:The ideal ending is that they come out to have been 0.2 psi below...not 2.0 psi.
Exactly. Put up or shut up. The world has gone mad!SumnerH said:Based on what? There's no evidence the Pats broke the rules, yet.
Shelterdog said:
I'm sticking with my theory that the refs initially told the league and the head of officiating that they checked the pressure pre-game the league went nuts--cuz hey, if it dropped X in a 50 degree day that can't be explained by the weather--but it came out in the investigation that refs did not actually use pressure gauges pregame.
-"Uh, if we do land an interview with Mr. Goodell, what's it gonna be like?"In keeping with our mission to give you all the best possible coverage and analysis of all things football, we at SoSH Football Central have obtained tape of the NFL's investigation at Patriots HQ in Foxboro, MA:
NWsoxophile said:Would there even be an investigation going on if they came up .2 under? I'm guessing they would have had to attribute that to environmental factors.
I don't know. No one knows anything.NWsoxophile said:Would there even be an investigation going on if they came up .2 under? I'm guessing they would have had to attribute that to environmental factors.
Yet they didn't give any numbers for pregame measurement.amarshal2 said:If I said to you in an official statement surrounding a controversy that I tested the pool temperature and found it was between 72.5-73.5 degrees Fahrenheit would you wonder if I used a thermometer vs. my hand?
And when handed the trophy they stick it up Roger's arse and leave.NortheasternPJ said:I can't wait until the Patriots win 100-0 on Super Bowl Sunday.
In a game in which they run the ball on every down.NortheasternPJ said:I can't wait until the Patriots win 100-0 on Super Bowl Sunday.
OnWisc said:-"Uh, if we do land an interview with Mr. Goodell, what's it gonna be like?"
-"Contradicting statements, nonsensical conclusions, baseless judgments, stuff like that."
-"Okay, so stupidest environment imaginable. That's all you gotta say. Stupidest environment imaginable."
Michael Irvin, voice of reason.PeaceSignMoose said:Michael Irvin going to town on how ridiculous this entire thing is on WEEI right now.
ifmanis5 said:And when handed the trophy they stick it up Roger's arse and leave.
Those are all from me.I've been getting PMs about how you're basically the winner of this thread.
I switched it to a link. Sorry, Rev.WayBackVazquez said:Rev, did you just upload something Super-HD 3D? My computer can't fight through it.
Valek123 said:
Same here - This is just ____ing priceless, so literally the balls might not have been tampered with at all and have a 0 psi difference between when the Refs inspected them(aka possibly ONLY held and looked at) and when they were retested with a gauge at half time.
PLEASE let information come out stating that NOTHING happened to the footballs they were low to start but not noticed, and all the accusations about deflating are pure crap because the refs didn't actually check the PSI before. If I were Brady that situation I'd have a field day with the reporters asking them to individually say they are sorry before answering any questions. This literally might break twitter if it turns out the refs didn't gauge the balls before.