#DFG: Canceling the Noise
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He could have said nothing and that'd be zero help. No one else active and at his level has said a peep.drleather2001 said:
Fred Kirsch @Fred_Kirsch 24m
24 minutes ago
w/NFL statement, STILL don't know if refs used gauge or butcher's thumb to test balls pregame. Why not be specific and rule out questions?
24 minutes ago
w/NFL statement, STILL don't know if refs used gauge or butcher's thumb to test balls pregame. Why not be specific and rule out questions?
If the NFL wasn't completely incompetent, which is what they are at this point by letting this destroy the biggest sporting event in the world, they would have just come out and said the Patriots are fined $25,000 per the rules. Minor infraction, happens all the time, referenced the 5 other cases we've heard of (Rodgers, Vikings etc.)
Then ripped Patriots, Kraft, BB and Brady behind the scenes.
Then ripped Patriots, Kraft, BB and Brady behind the scenes.
RedOctober3829 said:
I'm sticking with my theory that the refs initially told the league and the head of officiating that they checked the pressure pre-game the league went nuts--cuz hey, if it dropped X in a 50 degree day that can't be explained by the weather--but it came out in the investigation that refs did not actually use pressure gauges pregame.
I don't recall this ever being made into a big deal back in 2012 ...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/21/chargers-glazer-stickum-use/1647413/
http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/21/chargers-glazer-stickum-use/1647413/
DourDoerr said:
He only said something because he had to say something because prior to this scandale Simms and Nantz talked about how Rodgers slips overinflated balls through the system. The implication was that when he does it, it's gamesmanship.
Apologies if this has been discussed:
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/could-nfl-be-covering-for-officials-deflategate/253333
http://larrybrownsports.com/football/could-nfl-be-covering-for-officials-deflategate/253333
Maybe the Patriots purposely underinflated half the footballs, knowing that sometimes balls out of spec get through (as Rodgers noted). If the refs decide to check one ball with a gauge, they have a 50-50 chance of getting the underinflated balls through.Ed Hillel said:
Legally sneaking in underinflated balls due to referee apathy seems much more logical to me than concocting a very risky scheme to actively deflate ref-approved balls in order to gain a minimal advantage, and relying on ball boys to carry that out.
Why they didn't state this directly yesterday may be because outing the refs may not be a good idea before this fairly important game coming up.
In keeping with our mission to give you all the best possible coverage and analysis of all things football, we at SoSH Football Central have obtained tape of the NFL's investigation at Patriots HQ in Foxboro, MA:
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amarshal2 said:
King himself said he doesn't know if they used a gauge pre-game, but knows they did mid-game and post-game. That doesn't raise a red flag to you?
Except Jim Irsay didn't let them do that, as he went to his mouthpiece before the league had a chance to take matters into their own hands.NortheasternPJ said:
If Goodell had been commissioner in the eighties we could be sitting here today having actually relevant discussions about how excited we were for the upcoming USFL season instead of having to deal with continuing bullshit from this Clouseauesque league.
Would there even be an investigation going on if they came up .2 under? I'm guessing they would have had to attribute that to environmental factors.brandonchristensen said:
Shelterdog said:
Same here - This is just ____ing priceless, so literally the balls might not have been tampered with at all and have a 0 psi difference between when the Refs inspected them(aka possibly ONLY held and looked at) and when they were retested with a gauge at half time.
PLEASE let information come out stating that NOTHING happened to the footballs they were low to start but not noticed, and all the accusations about deflating are pure crap because the refs didn't actually check the PSI before. If I were Brady that situation I'd have a field day with the reporters asking them to individually say they are sorry before answering any questions. This literally might break twitter if it turns out the refs didn't gauge the balls before.
-"Uh, if we do land an interview with Mr. Goodell, what's it gonna be like?"
-"Contradicting statements, nonsensical conclusions, baseless judgments, stuff like that."
-"Okay, so stupidest environment imaginable. That's all you gotta say. Stupidest environment imaginable."
Just fascinating what the NFL chose to include in the statement - and what it didn't. Things like how the balls were inspected pre-game, how much they were under inflated by at half, etc. They have all that info, but won't release it. Why not? Why tease it out like this?
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From an interview with a Chicago Bears Ball Boy :
"I recall them having a pressure gauge in the locker room, but most often they just squeezed the balls, turned them over in their hands a few times each, and inspected the laces. I don't recall them ever rejecting one of our balls," he said.
"My thought process was, 'Let's get the balls exactly the way our quarterback wants them, and if the refs reject one or two before the game, no big deal. But there's no harm giving them our ideal balls and hoping they make it through inspection."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/super-bowl-xlix/deflate-gate-nfl-ball-boys-perspective-preparing-footballs-n290801
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"I recall them having a pressure gauge in the locker room, but most often they just squeezed the balls, turned them over in their hands a few times each, and inspected the laces. I don't recall them ever rejecting one of our balls," he said.
"My thought process was, 'Let's get the balls exactly the way our quarterback wants them, and if the refs reject one or two before the game, no big deal. But there's no harm giving them our ideal balls and hoping they make it through inspection."
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/super-bowl-xlix/deflate-gate-nfl-ball-boys-perspective-preparing-footballs-n290801
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Valek123 said:
Or have a small difference due to weather, yes.
It's absolutely the kind of lie you could see a ref telling in the spur of the moment. It's half-time you're taking piss or whatever and your boss Blandino calls and tells you the fucking Colts are throwing a fit about the Pats are using underinflated balls, could you guys just check their air pressure. You do, and they're all at 11.3 PSI or whatever. You tell Blandino and he says "how'd they get there? You tested them all pregame, right?" The thoughts of losing a 40 day a year/$200,000 a year job where you stand on pro football field for 20 games passes through your head and you say, "ur, um, yessir, we tested the SHIT out of those balls. Air gauge and everything" and you go back to your thing.
And then the next morning you realize you made the biggest mistake of your life.