ESPN Is Pathetic

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I like Reddick just fine, Doc was just really, really good as a broadcaster. His willingness to throw players and staff under the bus is a lot more fun when they aren't currently his players and his staff.
 

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I guess Pat McAfee won that round.
View: https://twitter.com/THR/status/1776292675182117121

Longtime ESPN Executive Norby Williamson to Exit
The classic Friday afternoon news dump and this is HUGE news, he was the machine behind ESPN for years and years. When most ESPN insider news was reported elsewhere, high % chance came from him. McAfee called him out on it but he's been leaking stuff and the 'espn source' for years and years.
 

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When oh WHEN will these Celtics prove they are tough?! One other adjective you can't be without a championship ring, apparently. Seems to me the Celtics continuing with all their winning seasons since 2016-17 (Jaylen's rookie season) amongst a lot of turnover of complementary pieces is the definition of a tough Jaylen/Jayson foundation.

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When oh WHEN will these Celtics prove they are tough?! One other adjective you can't be without a championship ring, apparently. Seems to me the Celtics continuing with all their winning seasons since 2016-17 (Jaylen's rookie season) amongst a lot of turnover of complementary pieces is the definition of a tough Jaylen/Jayson foundation.

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I want to like Bryant but he seems to be going round and round in circles trying to figure out a way to make this about "toughness" when all he's really saying is that they should finish off opponents when they have the lead.
 

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When oh WHEN will these Celtics prove they are tough?! One other adjective you can't be without a championship ring, apparently. Seems to me the Celtics continuing with all their winning seasons since 2016-17 (Jaylen's rookie season) amongst a lot of turnover of complementary pieces is the definition of a tough Jaylen/Jayson foundation.

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8-2 in elimination games over the last 3 years: Not tough.

Is it just too boring to ask whether or not this is the year they get over the hump?
 

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Counterpoint: They put themselves in a position last year where they’ve had to play 10 elimination games in 5 rounds. That includes 6 elimination games last years in 2 rounds, including going down 3-0 to a team that was down late in a play-in game and down 3-2 to a team that wasn’t playing Joel Embiid. And they haven’t been tested at all this playoffs.

The truth is somewhere in between but let’s not act like the Celtics have always been a lock in tight situations.
 

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Counterpoint: They put themselves in a position last year where they’ve had to play 10 elimination games in 5 rounds. That includes 6 elimination games last years in 2 rounds, including going down 3-0 to a team that was down late in a play-in game and down 3-2 to a team that wasn’t playing Joel Embiid. And they haven’t been tested at all this playoffs.

The truth is somewhere in between but let’s not act like the Celtics have always been a lock in tight situations.
Talking about last year is only slightly more relevant than how Hank Finkel replaced Bill Russell.
 

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Talking about last year is only slightly more relevant than how Hank Finkel replaced Bill Russell.
I did not bring up their record in elimination games the last two years as something in their favor. I also don’t agree last year is completely irrelevant given they return 7 of their top 9 players including their 2 best players. 100% relevant, no. But I don’t think you can throw away last year because they added Porzingis and Holiday.
 
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"took an Iowa program from nothing to multiple year success story"

ummm.... they were in the elite 8 the year before she got there?
 

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"Complimentary fashion" huh? Ooookay, whatever he needs to tell himself to justify being an asshole.

How the fuck is this guy so goddamned popular?
 

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I'm an idiot and still sometimes look at Rolling Stone's website in futile attempts for music news. I checked three minutes ago and saw the following headlines:

Alan Cumming on His Eclectic Career Choices: 'Deal With It, Bitches'
Cardi B on Proving Her Greatness: ‘I’m That Bitch, and Y’all Fucking Know It’
Los Bitchos Dance on the Sand in Video for Beach Rocker 'Don't Change'

As much as I loathe McAfee's brand of whatever it is, this seems like a sloppy, lazy broadcaster being sloppy and lazy. He used overly familiar, increasingly accepted language like a white dude quoting the wrong rap song. It certainly isn't good but the pearls should probably remain unclutched.
 

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I'm an idiot and still sometimes look at Rolling Stone's website in futile attempts for music news. I checked three minutes ago and saw the following headlines:

Alan Cumming on His Eclectic Career Choices: 'Deal With It, Bitches'
Cardi B on Proving Her Greatness: ‘I’m That Bitch, and Y’all Fucking Know It’
Los Bitchos Dance on the Sand in Video for Beach Rocker 'Don't Change'

As much as I loathe McAfee's brand of whatever it is, this seems like a sloppy, lazy broadcaster being sloppy and lazy. He used overly familiar, increasingly accepted language like a white dude quoting the wrong rap song. It certainly isn't good but the pearls should probably remain unclutched.
I feel like you're making this exclusively about the use of the word "bitch" rather than how he used it. Context does matter. Cumming wasn't calling any specific person a bitch. Cardi B was calling herself a bitch. Los Bitchos is the name the band gave themselves. McAfee called Caitlin Clark a "white bitch". That's not him repeating something that Clark called herself. That's not him using a generalized profanity for shock and emphasis. There's no context in which what he said is appropriate or simply lazy broadcasting. That sort of thing has to be called out when it happens, or it does become accepted language.
 

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Did you watch the original clip? He calls her a “white bitch” then spends the next 55 seconds saying how awesome she is. It was clunky and he should have used a different word. But it was not in the area of “She’s a sucks and is a bitch” vein.
 

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McAfee was trying to be "hip" and "edgy", which is his whole schtick. It was a utterly dumb thing to say, and he rightfully should have apologized for it.

I like McAfee, in small doses in the proper context. He's a blast on College GameDay, and he's fun on WWE commentary. He's too much on his radio show for my taste, but he has the occasional very well-done segment (for example, his interview with Adam Silver a couple months ago was excellent).
 

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Ravech promoting next week's Sunday Night Baseball games, Red Sox at the "AL East leading Yankees" -- while he's broadcasting a game featuring the Orioles, who at that moment were leading the AL East
 

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Maybe I’m just noticing crap like this, but this story is just a very thinly veiled ad for ESPNBet, disguised as a sports story interspersed with other news. The “story” is that people love to wager on Paul Skenes and it’s a really compelling bet to consider, and it quotes line movement numbers from ESPNBet. This isn’t an impartial story about the house in Vegas taking a big beat or something, not sports gambling coverage, it’s just saying “hey, people are excited to bet on this guy! By the way, if you did want to, we know a guy…”
 

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You clicked and shared. They aren’t pathetic, they know what people want/hate.
Just flipped to the ESPN app as a quick break from work. Second video highlight is Bronny air-balling a three during summer league. I mean, I turned it off in disgust-- kind of pathetic.

I guess that's a success for them because I'm posting that it sucks here? So they're not irrelevant?
 

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I think a lot of people here are underestimating how little sports actually happen in the summer in general, and even more so, right now around the All-Star Break.

I used to work in sports media and trust me, the NBA summer league is a godsend because there's literally nothing else to put in the content real estate.

LeBron's kid is the biggest intrigue at it right now. It's all very simple. If even NFL training camps were open you'd probably be getting something else. There's not even any soccer right now. It's the deadest of dead. Bronny is going to get some coverage.
 

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WNBA?
Wimbledon?
2024 Euros?
2024 Copa America?
Tour de France?
Olympic Trials?
Paris Olympics?

… but, sure, there’s nothing going on other than watching Bronny James pee down his leg*

*I feel bad for him because the few interviews I’ve seen with him he seems like a good kid.
 

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WNBA?
Wimbledon?
2024 Euros?
2024 Copa America?
Tour de France?
Olympic Trials?
Paris Olympics?

… but, sure, there’s nothing going on other than watching Bronny James pee down his leg*

*I feel bad for him because the few interviews I’ve seen with him he seems like a good kid.
Literally none of those things, save like stage 16 of the Tour de France which no one cares about, even happened over the last 2 days. Like none of it.

Yes, NOTHING is going on.

I mean there’s 4 W games today after none yesterday. They can take up…. A little real estate in sports sites. None involve Clark though so probably won’t get many views.
 

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That wasn't a shot at you... apologies if it came across that way. It was a shot at ESPN, which has myriad things it could be discussing besides NBA SL and Bronny James, imho. I get your point.

For the record, yesterday was the only day one or more of these events wasn't occurring. The two soccer championships were Sunday, and both were newsworthy for different reasons. Wimbledon men's final. Sunday was a big WNBA day... TdF is virtually every day, even though that may not float your boat. Hell... even the MLB draft has been going on for the last three days!
 

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That wasn't a shot at you... apologies if it came across that way. It was a shot at ESPN, which has myriad things it could be discussing besides NBA SL and Bronny James, imho. I get your point.

For the record, yesterday was the only day one or more of these events wasn't occurring. The two soccer championships were Sunday, and both were newsworthy for different reasons. Wimbledon men's final. Sunday was a big WNBA day... TdF is virtually every day, even though that may not float your boat. Hell... even the MLB draft has been going on for the last three days!
I'm not sure I understand the criticism. ESPN covered all of those events, many in depth.

I get complaining about Bronny coverage on SportsCenter, since that takes time away from other topics. But the ESPN app? Just don't click on the Bronny stuff, right?