I've heard this suggested (by Volin, mostly), but it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Amendola has more dead money ($4.8 MM) than his 2014 cap figure ($4.5 MM) - even if you designate him a post-6/1 cut, they only save $3 MM. And is he really redundant? Right now the Pats' top four receiving threats are Gronk, who is currently rehabbing, and Edelman, Amendola, and Vereen, none of whom has a sterling track record when it comes to injuries. Are you really comfortable slashing depth there to save not that much money so you can plug in, what another rookie WR, or someone like LaFell or Sanders who's probably not even better than Amendola?Dick Pole Upside said:Awesome. Get your ass back over to Brady's for a workout.
I'm guessing this may mean adios for Amendola.
The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa said:Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.
The_Powa_of_Seiji_Ozawa said:Everything that has transpired has done so according to my design.
I agree. Amendola played the entire season with an injured groin. Ever have one of those? Takes forever to heal and you can keep re-injuring it if you don't sit still for a while which Amendola couldn't/wouldn't do. You'd be selling really low now, anyway. As I remember last year's pre-season, before he was injured, Amendola was impressing with his double-move patterns, etc. Keep him and see what he can do.Darnell's Son said:Why would you cut Amendola when there are negative cap ramifications and he only had one injured year in the offense. Let's see what he can do when healthy.
Beomoose said:
What is thy bidding, my master?
southshoresoxfan said:3/12 7. Lloyd contract
Could be teams are figuring a lot of his success is because of the guy throwing to him and that he wouldn't be nearly as successful just about anywhere else. Deion Branch comes to mind, although Deion's numbers in Seattle were good and he did have some injuries. Whatever, happy to see Edelman back.DaughtersofDougMirabelli said:Wouldn't be surprised if after a disappointing offseason for Edelman it's again a short term prove-it deal. Though I'm hoping it's for more years.
How does that explain Edelman being one of the best punt returners in the game, with one of (is it the?) the best return averages of all time? Consider me a bit surprised he wasn't more highly coveted for that aspect of his game.Al Zarilla said:Could be teams are figuring a lot of his success is because of the guy throwing to him and that he wouldn't be nearly as successful just about anywhere else.
StupendousMan said:Edelman is a very good punt returner, but doesn't hold any records. In average yards per punt return for a single season, his best season was 2012: 15.5 yards per return. That puts him in a tie for 43rd of all time. In average yards per punt return for a career, he does better: his 12.3 yards per return has him at 7th of all time, and tied with Devin Hester for best among active players.
They both round to 12.3 but Edelman is a smidge better than Hester in yds/PR, though Hester has over twice as many returns:StupendousMan said:Edelman is a very good punt returner, but doesn't hold any records. In average yards per punt return for a single season, his best season was 2012: 15.5 yards per return. That puts him in a tie for 43rd of all time. In average yards per punt return for a career, he does better: his 12.3 yards per return has him at 7th of all time, and tied with Devin Hester for best among active players.
Ben Volin @BenVolin 51s
Edelman said on WAAF 97.7 and 107.3 that he signed a 4-year contract with #Patriots. Terms still unknown
Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 1m
Edelman when asked how much his deal is worth: “If I even bring up anything about a contract I will be killed.”
@DougKyedNESN Edelman was asked if teams promised him free burgers or put $100 bills on a table to persuade him. "This isn't like a (U of) Florida trip"
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 10s
Meanwhile, here are the numbers on WR Julian Edelman's deal w/ @Patriots: 4 years, $17m base, $2m more in incentives, $8m guaranteed.
Well, he is an injury risk and he was a free agent WR in a year with a lot of free agent WRs and a draft stacked with WR talent. Seems a fair deal for both sides. There must have been push back that he is a product of the Pats system. If healthy, I bet he has better numbers than Decker in 2014.Ed Hillel said:Wow, I don't see any way that can't be an awesome deal for the Pats.
Dogman2 said:4/16/8.
SUCK IT PHRAGLECorsi said:
Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo 10s
Meanwhile, here are the numbers on WR Julian Edelman's deal w/ @Patriots: 4 years, $17m base, $2m more in incentives, $8m guaranteed.
ShaneTrot said:Well, he is an injury risk and he was a free agent WR in a year with a lot of free agent WRs and a draft stacked with WR talent. Seems a fair deal for both sides. There must have been push back that he is a product of the Pats system. If healthy, I bet he has better numbers than Decker in 2014.
Jeff Howe @jeffphowe 3m
Edelman's contract: 4 years, $17M, plus $2M in incentives (max value $19M). Includes $8 million guaranteed for injury (of which $6M skill).
Garshaparra said:4/8/20.
Corsi said:Nick Underhill @Nick_Underhill 1m
Edelman when asked how much his deal is worth: “If I even bring up anything about a contract I will be killed.”
I got the 4 right, the 8 right and the 20 is close enough (19 if you include incentives).triniSox said:4/20/8
http://espn.go.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4760458/closer-look-at-edelmans-contract-2Term: Four years
Signing bonus: $5 million
Maximum value: $19 million
2014
Base: $1 million (guaranteed)
Roster bonus: $500,000 ($31,250 per game on 46-man roster)
Incentives: Up to $500,000
Cap: $2.75 million
2015
Base: $2.25 million ($2 million guaranteed for injury only, converts to skill g’tee in ’15)
Roster bonus: $750,000 ($46,875 per game on 46-man roster)
Incentives: Up to $500,000
Cap: $4.25 million
2016
Base: $2.5 million
Roster bonus: $750,000 ($46,875 per game on 46-man roster)
Offseason workout: $250,000
Incentives: Up to $500,000
Cap: $4.75 million
2017
Base: $3 million
Roster bonus: $750,000 ($46,875 per game on 46-man roster)
Offseason workout: $250,000
Incentives: Up to $500,000
Cap: $5.25 million
QUICK-HIT THOUGHTS: This is what we’d define as a “real” contract that gives Edelman a chance to earn all the money because there are no volatile spikes in future years to inflate the overall terms of the contract (in contrast to Darrelle Revis’ contract). In looking at the incentives, one thing that stood out was that one of them was for team wins, which was a different twist to tie the team’s success into a player’s earnings. There was interest in comparing this contract to what Danny Amendola signed last year, and the feeling here is that Edelman, while coming up a bit short of Amendola's guaranteed money, was simply hurt a bit by timing. Had he had a 105-catch season in 2012 and hit the market in 2013, he probably would have commanded more. But the market takes on a different shape each year and the overall receiver market was down in 2014 compared to last year. Thus, the feeling here is that Edelman did well given those circumstances, and the Patriots rewarded him fairly while navigating a tricky situation because of the Amendola deal.
Stitch01 said:Id argue he's cuttable in '16, but pretty unlikely even if he produces like Amendola did last season.