NFL Trade Deadline 11/3 4pm
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I can actually think of one and it's more or less the constant harassment from the NFL office. I think this team is pissed about the whole asterisk talk and wants to leave no doubts.BaseballJones said:
dcmissle said:
You are correct, but the one aspect of being an executive that is most important, long-term, is the one we do not know if Elway has: salary cap discipline.
Denver's aggressiveness has been good for their short-term results, and has maximized the Manning window. But on some future Tuesday, the cap is going require them to pay for these hamburgers. Unless Osweiler is really as good as j-man thinks he could be OR there's some secret Stanford pact between Luck & Elway...the cost of keeping this band together is going to get mighty expensive.
FWIW, my favorite moment of the DEN-GB game was Von Miller getting a "cramp" right after making a great Von Miller play, allowing the broadcasters to talk about how A.) great and B.) tough Von Miller is on the field. Strong contract drive for a guy who will not take less than the richest defensive contract in NFL history.
Super duper nice. BB does not always trade for this year.RedOctober3829 said:
If someone like Weddle is available at a reasonable price, go for it and figure things out rest of the year.
Weddle would be amazing. Good enough for me not to give two fudges about how many safeties we already have, especially since he is better than anyone not named McC.
No important UFA next year for NE. Roster already stocked with young core.5dice said:
I say 2016 is a year we need picks the least.
If they got Weddle would the nickel become essentially a three-safety package? Or, since McC also has experience as a corner, maybe it would be a distinction without a difference.SeoulSoxFan said:
But a) Weddle is only signed through the end of this year, and b) McCourty, Chung, Harmon, and Richards are all signed for 2016 (and in most cases, beyond). So Weddle would be a "just for 2015" add, and one we don't need.SeoulSoxFan said:
Better, sure. Better enough for what it would cost, probably not.SeoulSoxFan said:
Super Nomario said:
But I'd think BB would try to sign Weddle for future years, and if not you have to calculate the compensation pick.
If Weddle gets top dollar to leave NE, the comp pick negates from (although perhaps not equal to) the pick NE gives up to retain him now.
But as dc posts, I'm looking at these opportunities to improve the team (and Weddle definitely does, while I'm not sure if someone like Mankins do) and think there aren't that many options.
Every contender is looking for a good CB help, Pats' biggest need. Sean Smith is far, far from getting a Revis or a Talib. Given the level of compensation for Weddle (I think it'll be lower than one may expect), he may be the best value & one of the better players to acquire, period.
What does the secondary look like if Weddle comes to NE in...nickel?
Butler - Slot CB/Outside CB?
Ryan - Slot CB/Outside CB?
McCourty -- Outside CB?
Chung -- SS?
Weddle -- FS?
So he's stealing snaps mostly from Harmon? Harmon is playing really well.
What about in base? Ryan sits? That seems like a bit more of an upgrade but not huge.
This is confusing.
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This makes more sense as he steals Ryan's snaps instead of Harmon's but Rapaport is basically reporting this as "hey look at this even though there's nothing to see here!"
Obviously a joke but one does wonder if that's part of the intrigue....If only BB could give them both #32.
Butler - Slot CB/Outside CB?
Ryan - Slot CB/Outside CB?
McCourty -- Outside CB?
Chung -- SS?
Weddle -- FS?
So he's stealing snaps mostly from Harmon? Harmon is playing really well.
What about in base? Ryan sits? That seems like a bit more of an upgrade but not huge.
This is confusing.
edit:
This makes more sense as he steals Ryan's snaps instead of Harmon's but Rapaport is basically reporting this as "hey look at this even though there's nothing to see here!"
Obviously a joke but one does wonder if that's part of the intrigue....If only BB could give them both #32.
soxhop411 said:
Cue paranoid opponents complaining that it's deceptive to have twins playing for the same team.
Mystic Merlin said:
I don't think many people thought the Akeem Ayers deal last year was of consequence, but he turned out to be a pretty valuable contributor during the Super Bowl run.
I am expecting a deal today that is in no way splashy but increases depth at one or more positions.
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The nerve of the Patriots. I can see Harbaugh crying like some old school wwf referee about not having the legal twin on the field.
E5 Yaz said:
Certainly sounds like RapSh*t trying to get more clicks for nothing.
Even if there was interest, we already have the better McCourty. The other guy may not be better than Logan Ryan and makes $6.8m base and $7m in 2016 & 2017 (no dead cap in 2017, last year of contract): http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/tennessee-titans/jason-mccourty/
I wouldn't be surprised if Jason McC takes the same career path and convert to a safety next year.
How would you feel about adding Jason McCourty?Super Nomario said:
Doubt this will happen, but it looks like he's owed a lot of money -- 8.6M against the cap this year. 8.8M next year, 7.0M in '17. Not a ton of dead money after this year (1.8 next year, 0 for '17)
If McCourty were a free agent next year, I could see Bill going for this. But does he really want to commit that much money to a position he was willing to sort of cobble together this offseason?
dynomite said:
Here's a Nashville article claiming that "J-Mac" is probably "the one most important player" on defense:
http://www.nashurban.com/important-jason-mccourty/
Anyone else think they might spin Dobson for a pick? I was thinking last night that if I was Carolina Id probably give up a 5th or a 6th for him and he doesn't really have a big role here. He's LaFell's backup, but they probably go more to Amendola if he goes down anyways and Martin seems to be over Dobson on the depth chart when he is healthy.
Re: McCourty, dead money from signing bonuses stay with the trading team don't they? So Pats could cut McCourty for nothing after the season I think if they traded for him.
Re: McCourty, dead money from signing bonuses stay with the trading team don't they? So Pats could cut McCourty for nothing after the season I think if they traded for him.
Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 39s40 seconds ago
For all talk and speculation about potential trades for Cleveland, Browns not expected to make any major trades before today's deadline.
For all talk and speculation about potential trades for Cleveland, Browns not expected to make any major trades before today's deadline.
Stitch01 said:
Yes, the signing bonus cap hit stays with the Titans. The Patriots could cut McCourty for nothing but he actually would have a pretty good deal for an above average starting corner (7M cap hit in 2016 and 2017) so I don't see why they would want to do that. Compare those cap hits to the FA market of last offseason and what guys like Kareem Jackson, Chris Culliver, and Byron Maxwell received.
Weddle turns 31 in a couple months. Signing him long-term doesn't make a lot of sense given they already have four safeties they like.SeoulSoxFan said:
Weddle's a good add for somebody, but I don't think it's the Pats.
I don't think that's a crazy contract for McCourty, though I haven't really been up on how he's played over the past couple seasons. They didn't want to give Revis $16 MM, but that doesn't mean they won't give McCourty half that. I haven't looked holistically about what that means in terms of re-signing guys like Jones, Collins, Hightower, etc.dynomite said:
True, maybe it fits or maybe it doesnt, I was just trying to make the point that the contract is actually a call option asset for the team rather than a liability in any sort of trade. They can do a trade as a pure rental if they choose.Morgan's Magic Snowplow said:
Stitch01 said:
Gotcha, I agree on that point.
SeoulSoxFan said:
I don't really know. He has a good reputation but I don't watch a lot of Titans games and haven't really been tracking what other say about him. I think he has mainly played in predominantly zone heavy schemes so that may be one factor, good or bad, to consider.
Ian Rapoport @RapSheet 8s9 seconds ago
Now told he’s not available, either. RT @apat246: @RapSheet any news on Jason McCourty?
Now told he’s not available, either. RT @apat246: @RapSheet any news on Jason McCourty?
Jimmy Stewart on TSH is saying that the deal is virtually done for a 4th and a 6th, just working on a contract restructure.
He's "tripling down" in light of that new Rapsheet report.
Edit: for McCourty. Which is why he's now "unavailable."
He's "tripling down" in light of that new Rapsheet report.
Edit: for McCourty. Which is why he's now "unavailable."
Jimmy Stewart on the air on F&M: Team sources tell me the Patriots are working on a restructured contract with Jason McCourty as we speak. The parameters of draft picks being swapped have been agreed to. 4th and a 6th this year. Says the Rapsheet report means he is not available to other teams at this point.
Take with many grains of salt.
Take with many grains of salt.
Is anyone listening to the sports hub? James Stewart is saying the hes 100% sure the Pats are getting McCourty for a 4th and a 6th this year. The holdup is they are restructuring his deal. He says it's his sources from the team that he trusts.
They asked him about the Rap tweet and he said "he's not available because they already agreed with the Pats". He says it will 100% be done by 4.
Edit: it's this years 4th rounder
They asked him about the Rap tweet and he said "he's not available because they already agreed with the Pats". He says it will 100% be done by 4.
Edit: it's this years 4th rounder
Maybe he's not available because a deal is done??Corsi said:
We'll find out who is full of it in an hour
If this happens the human interest stories are going to be unbearable...but a price I'm willing to pay.
BoSoxFink said:
That'd be something wouldn't it? Maybe we got our picks back and no one else knows it yet :smithicide:
MarcSullivaFan said:
I'm just sad I'm out of Boston and will miss all the car dealership and restaurant ads they'll do together.