RealFantasy Pigskin 2013: Draft and Discussion
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Didn't we start talking almost immediately about adding to the rosters sometime after the draft was over? We're all in the same boat I think.
Edit: this has been so much fun anyway I'd love to continue it. I've talked KFP's ear off.
Edit: this has been so much fun anyway I'd love to continue it. I've talked KFP's ear off.
I'm personally in favor of some kind of backup/depth draft that lasts a few rounds but I'd only want to do it if there's broad support. Once everything calms down with the Marathon bombing and investigation (ie, next week), I'll start a new thread for discussion. I think that everybody should have a chance to weight in on whether they want to do this and, if so, how it should happen.
The Denver Broncos select.... Robert Alford, CB
I feel like taking some chances on a couple rookies, so Alford is the pick for the Broncos. Good size at 5-10, 188 lbs, good speed (4.39 40 time at the combine) out of Southeastern Louisiana. Here's what NFL.com has to say:
I feel like taking some chances on a couple rookies, so Alford is the pick for the Broncos. Good size at 5-10, 188 lbs, good speed (4.39 40 time at the combine) out of Southeastern Louisiana. Here's what NFL.com has to say:
I'll gladly add that to my defense as a nickel DB, with the possibility to take over for DeAngelo Hall as a starter opposite Patrick Peterson should he impress us.
Can we agree on definition of broad support before the poll starts?
To clarify...i could see a scenario where 60% of folks approve this...but in my mind, given the statements above, that does not represent an "overwhelming majority". But to others it may.
To clarify...i could see a scenario where 60% of folks approve this...but in my mind, given the statements above, that does not represent an "overwhelming majority". But to others it may.
Having a definition before polling seems reasonable. I'll start a discussion thread later today, leave that up for a few days, and then do a poll after people have exchanged views for a while.bsj said:
Two-thirds majority approval? That is what is required in the NFL for rule changes. Would require 22 owners to vote in favor.
Never thought I'd be the one to pop this cherry, but here we go..
The NFL is about all 3 phases of the games, and special teams cannot be ignored. And especially given the makeup of our defense, which puts an emphasis on rushing the passer, and forcing bad decisions, field position can be an incredibly important thing. So therefore, having a punter who can accurately pin the opposing offenses close to their own goal line as possible is pretty significant. That's why the Green Bay Packers are glad to welcome Andy Lee, P
The NFL is about all 3 phases of the games, and special teams cannot be ignored. And especially given the makeup of our defense, which puts an emphasis on rushing the passer, and forcing bad decisions, field position can be an incredibly important thing. So therefore, having a punter who can accurately pin the opposing offenses close to their own goal line as possible is pretty significant. That's why the Green Bay Packers are glad to welcome Andy Lee, P
Almost took a veteran, but I'd rather give a young guy a shot.
Hugh Thornton, RG. Is he a high-round pick? No. But he's a big guy, someone who made the Senior Bowl, and has even played some LT. He's strong and a former wrestler -- so you know he'll be able to grapple with the big defensive linemen.
Hugh Thornton, RG. Is he a high-round pick? No. But he's a big guy, someone who made the Senior Bowl, and has even played some LT. He's strong and a former wrestler -- so you know he'll be able to grapple with the big defensive linemen.
I like Thornton. Had a great week up to, and including, the Senior Bowl. Probably a 3rd round pick at best, but a guy that some think can step in and start from Day 1 in the NFL.
[table RSPWP Round 13]RSPWP SoSH Pos Name Team 382 480 S Chris Conte CHI 383 473 WR Denarious Moore OAK 384 429 LG Zane Beadles DEN 385 401 WR Andre Roberts ARI 386 557 DT Terrance Knighton DEN 387 572 S Ryan Clark PIT 388 OLB Antwan Barnes NYJ 389 562 RB Maurice Jones-Drew JAX 390 532 CB Trumaine Johnson STL 391 678 LT Max Starks PIT 392 698 ILB David Harris NYJ 393 250 DE Kamerion Wimbley TEN 394 718 ILB Demario Davis NYJ 395 433 CB Greg Toler IND 396 695 DE/OLB Shea McClellin CHI 397 DT Billy Winn CLE 398 663 RB Lamar Miller MIA 399 294 OLB Philip Wheeler MIA 400 229 WR Danario Alexander SD 401 DE Vinny Curry PHI 402 511 CB Carlos Rogers SF 403 430 RT Marcus Gilbert PIT 404 LT Will Svitek NE 405 472 ILB Karlos Dansby 406 420 CB Tramon Williams GB 407 321 WR Kenny Britt TEN 408 519 OLB Jason Worilds PIT 409 570 RB Frank Gore SF 410 393 RB Vick Ballard IND 411 396 LB Erin Henderson MIN 412 510 DT Pernell McPhee BAL 413 315 RB Ben Tate HOU 414 338 DE Everson Griffen MIN 415 328 WR Brian Hartline MIA
Dudes they haven't taken yet: Nick Foles (132), Tyson Alualu (146), Wesley Woodyard (185), Chris Snee (203), Heath Miller (222), Ryan Wendell (244), Darren McFadden (257), Nmandi Asomugha (267), Alshon Jeffrey (272), King Dunlap (276)
Dudes they haven't taken yet: Nick Foles (132), Tyson Alualu (146), Wesley Woodyard (185), Chris Snee (203), Heath Miller (222), Ryan Wendell (244), Darren McFadden (257), Nmandi Asomugha (267), Alshon Jeffrey (272), King Dunlap (276)
soxfan121 said:
Awwww...schmoopy!
Looks like the draft is snaking back towards me, guess I need to do some research...
SMU_Sox said:
Yeah agreed. Start the clock back up Monday morning, and we'll be back on our way next week.
I think this is a good plan. Danoome will get a sixDaughtersofDougMirabelli said:
hour clock starting tomorrow at 8 EST and we'll go back to normal.
I also just sent him a PM.
Minor chart related issue, but my WR's name should be spelled Malcom Floyd. The link now goes to some mid-1990s receiver. Floyd may be old, but he's not that old.
Also Jerrell Freeman should have two R's in his first name.
Looking forward to finishing this draft! Thanks for all the hard work to those who update the chart.
Also Jerrell Freeman should have two R's in his first name.
Looking forward to finishing this draft! Thanks for all the hard work to those who update the chart.
Another quick chart note, Scoops and Phragle are jerks and took Shea McClellin in round 22, which I didn't notice when I was planning my next few picks and find didn't work. I was mad when Schatz took him in the other draft thinking it would put him on someones radar here, turns out he already was. 
Another Chart observation: Margus Hunt doesn't show up on the positional listing: he should be slotted in at the ILB2/Flex position.
Thanks.
Thanks.
Chart Updated.
But he's a changed man!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9198542/rolando-mcclain-baltimore-ravens-arrested-charged-alabama
Fuck off McClain.
But he's a changed man!
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9198542/rolando-mcclain-baltimore-ravens-arrested-charged-alabama
Fuck off McClain.
Alright, I guess I'm on the clock.
To get this thing going again, I'll add another young lineman to my defensive front. He only played in 8 games in his rookie season last year, mostly due to his team having good DL depth, but despite not being a huge run stuffer, graded out positively in this area and can provide some pressure in the pass game. The negative is his motor, which ran hot and cold in college. I haven't seen any reports indicating this has been an issue since he's become a professional and I'm hoping the lack of playing time in the second half of the season last year was the motivation he needs to come back in his sophomore season ready to play a more significant role.
With our next pick, the Jnai Dolphins complete their defense and select DT Devon Still
PM being sent to SPDougie now.
To get this thing going again, I'll add another young lineman to my defensive front. He only played in 8 games in his rookie season last year, mostly due to his team having good DL depth, but despite not being a huge run stuffer, graded out positively in this area and can provide some pressure in the pass game. The negative is his motor, which ran hot and cold in college. I haven't seen any reports indicating this has been an issue since he's become a professional and I'm hoping the lack of playing time in the second half of the season last year was the motivation he needs to come back in his sophomore season ready to play a more significant role.
With our next pick, the Jnai Dolphins complete their defense and select DT Devon Still
PM being sent to SPDougie now.
The Chargers select:
Jonathan Baldwin, WR
He has a boatload of talent but hasn't produced though he will now have a real life NFL starting QB throwing to him. There are safer names left but I'd rather take the risk on someone who still has some pretty high upside. He'll come in on 3 WR sets on the outside with Emmanuel Sanders moving to the slot.
Wasdin PM'd
Jonathan Baldwin, WR
He has a boatload of talent but hasn't produced though he will now have a real life NFL starting QB throwing to him. There are safer names left but I'd rather take the risk on someone who still has some pretty high upside. He'll come in on 3 WR sets on the outside with Emmanuel Sanders moving to the slot.
Wasdin PM'd
Sorry, have been away all weekend and then some, just got back.
I feel the need for a pass catcher out of the backfield and a RB that's a little bigger than Morris. Even though this guy has some mileage on him, he's got what I need. Plus he throws better than Tebow in case I need a backup QB. Of course, I still need a starting QB, but pay no attention to that fact.
The Varmint Cong select Ronnie Brown, RB2
Also, Scott Chandler is missing from my FB/TE/Flex slot on the spreadsheet. Thanks!
I feel the need for a pass catcher out of the backfield and a RB that's a little bigger than Morris. Even though this guy has some mileage on him, he's got what I need. Plus he throws better than Tebow in case I need a backup QB. Of course, I still need a starting QB, but pay no attention to that fact.
The Varmint Cong select Ronnie Brown, RB2
Also, Scott Chandler is missing from my FB/TE/Flex slot on the spreadsheet. Thanks!
Intercourse Panthers take Stephen Nicholas, OLB, Atlanta Falcons
Graded out pretty well in 2010 and 2011, but slipped in 2012. Did flash some nice dance moves though.
SMU and KFP PM'ed
Graded out pretty well in 2010 and 2011, but slipped in 2012. Did flash some nice dance moves though.
SMU and KFP PM'ed
We wanted to round out our WR corp, so we're going with...
Ryan Swope, WR
He's what we're looking for in a WR. He's quick enough to play in the slot, but physical enough to play on the outside. We like that versatility.
He runs crisp routes and has a reputation for working his way into good position when a QB is under pressure. He is good at making the first man miss, and has a quick initial burst (4.34 40 yard) to break off serious YAC. He also is one of those guys with the "High football IQ" reputation.
Some have compared him to Randall Cobb. Here's there numbers coming out of college:
Cobb's:
5’10”, 191 pounds
4.46 40-yard dash
4.34 20-yard shuttle
7.08 3-cone drill
33.5 vertical
16 reps with 225 pounds
Swope’s:
6’0”, 205 pounds
4.34 40-yard dash
4.25 20-yard shuttle
6.76 3-cone drill
37 vertical
16 reps with 225 pounds
Bigger, strong, faster, and quicker. He'll probably fall into the second or third round, but we think he's a little underrated. Obviously could end up being a dud, but we'd rather take a risk at a good player then take on a proven below average one.
Edit: MM PM'ed
Ryan Swope, WR
He's what we're looking for in a WR. He's quick enough to play in the slot, but physical enough to play on the outside. We like that versatility.
He runs crisp routes and has a reputation for working his way into good position when a QB is under pressure. He is good at making the first man miss, and has a quick initial burst (4.34 40 yard) to break off serious YAC. He also is one of those guys with the "High football IQ" reputation.
Some have compared him to Randall Cobb. Here's there numbers coming out of college:
Cobb's:
5’10”, 191 pounds
4.46 40-yard dash
4.34 20-yard shuttle
7.08 3-cone drill
33.5 vertical
16 reps with 225 pounds
Swope’s:
6’0”, 205 pounds
4.34 40-yard dash
4.25 20-yard shuttle
6.76 3-cone drill
37 vertical
16 reps with 225 pounds
Bigger, strong, faster, and quicker. He'll probably fall into the second or third round, but we think he's a little underrated. Obviously could end up being a dud, but we'd rather take a risk at a good player then take on a proven below average one.
Edit: MM PM'ed
The Bears select OLB Mathias Kiwanuka.
He's injury-prone, and just turned 30, but I like his versatility and pedigree. I'll slot him in at my other OLB spot, but I'm going to have him put his hand in the dirt quite a bit.
Plus, I need at least one BC grad on my roster.
He's injury-prone, and just turned 30, but I like his versatility and pedigree. I'll slot him in at my other OLB spot, but I'm going to have him put his hand in the dirt quite a bit.
Plus, I need at least one BC grad on my roster.
Swope and Kiwanuka? You guys suck. Though I suspect SSF might have snatched up Swope before he got to me anyway.
I like the Swope pick. Seems like a taller Welker, and that 3 cone time is pretty sexy. He's got short arms and small hands but if your QB is accurate and he's catching underneath stuff out of the slot it shouldn't matter much. Nice value here.
Chiefs select ILB - Nick Barnett
I now have a full defense and I like the looks of it, that is all
I now have a full defense and I like the looks of it, that is all
I'm around whenever I have the green light.
(Not overly excited about my next pick, just want to keep things moving and I'm leaving the office shortly and will be MIA).
(Not overly excited about my next pick, just want to keep things moving and I'm leaving the office shortly and will be MIA).