Red Sox Deadline Discussion

[Corsi]

Whenever Morosi/Rosenthal come in with a tweet like this, it's usually just a matter of time.

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

I haven't read any rumors on Jonny Gomes this week. He should not still be on this roster taking at bats away from Mookie in August and September.

 

[jasail]

 
I'm not sure Ramsey is the equivalent of the #30 pick in next year's draft.  He projects as a fourth OF.  In any event, it's not clearly better than the pick.

 
Is it worth considering that the Indians weren't going to issue Masterson the QO (~$15M) due to his struggles this year and therefore were not going to receive a pick?  

 

[foulkehampshire]

Jon Morosi ‏@jonmorosi  1m
Sources: Marlins and Red Sox are discussing a possible John Lackey trade. @FOXSports1
 
 

 
I was kinda hoping Lackey would stay. He's so freaking cheap next year.
 
There's very little I like about the Marlins besides their OF.

 

[MakMan44]

I haven't read any rumors on Jonny Gomes this week. He should not still be on this roster taking at bats away from Mookie in August and September.

Only thing that's been mentioned, as far as I can tell, is that the Royals are moving on. It's weird, he's still a useful player. 

 

[bosockboy]

Come on down, Christian Yelich.

 

[nattysez]

I haven't read any rumors on Jonny Gomes this week. He should not still be on this roster taking at bats away from Mookie in August and September.

 
There was a mention on Twitter that the Royals had had some interest, but decided he wasn't a good enough RF.  This is the Royals team that played Raul Ibanez in RF this year.
 
FWIW, Hammel continues to stink for the A's -- he's struggling to make it out of the 1st inning against the Astros today.  Beane's level of urgency re: another starter should be rising. 

 

[amfox1]

 
I was kinda hoping Lackey would stay. He's so freaking cheap next year.
 
There's very little I like about the Marlins besides their OF.

 
Yelich is the guy they want.

 

[E5 Yaz]

Come on down, Christian Yelich.

 
Go sit in the corner with the ones who thought the Sox were getting Polanco or Tavares

 

[jasail]

 
Yelich is the guy they want.

 
Why would the Marlins sell their closer if they are trading for a starter to make a post-season run?

 

[MakMan44]

 
Yelich is the guy they want.

Going to take a fair bit more than Lackey to get him. 

 

[foulkehampshire]

 
Why would the Marlins sell their closer if they are trading for a starter to make a post-season run?

 
Because he (Yelich) is actually a cost controlled young OF with great upside.

 

[MakMan44]

 
Why would the Marlins sell their closer if they are trading for a starter to make a post-season run?

Yelich is an OF. Cishek is their closer

 

[E5 Yaz]

 
Why would the Marlins sell their closer if they are trading for a starter to make a post-season run?

 
Just ... wow

 

[CaskNFappin]

 
Go sit in the corner with the ones who thought the Sox were getting Polanco or Tavares

If you're looking at it as a Lackey Yelich swap, yeah....

I think it's entirely conceivable if you attach Middlebrooks and some other moving pieces.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

 
Why would the Marlins sell their closer if they are trading for a starter to make a post-season run?

 
They're selling Cishek?  According to whom?

 

[foulkehampshire]

Going to take a fair bit more than Lackey to get him. 

 
Might as well give up a couple more top 10 prospects and land Stanton.

 

[amfox1]

 
Is it worth considering that the Indians weren't going to issue Masterson the QO (~$15M) due to his struggles this year and therefore were not going to receive a pick?  

 
I was responding to a point about Lester.  Ramsey is fair value for Masterson.

 

[glennhoffmania]

 
Just ... wow

Yeah this.

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

More posturing...
 
https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/494552490780528640

 

[glennhoffmania]

 
They're selling Cishek?  According to whom?

 
For what it's worth, there were rumors last week that they'd consider dealing Cishek.  It made no sense at the time and still doesn't.

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I for one am very excited that we're going to get Stanton for John Lackey. I'd even throw in Stephen Drew if that helps get it done.

 

[MakMan44]

 
For what it's worth, there were rumors last week that they'd consider dealing Cishek.  It made no sense at the time and still doesn't.

All about saving money. Marlins don't think it's worth paying him over $4 million next season. 
 
EDIT: Well that, and what they could get back. I think he has 2-3 season of team control left. 

 

[glennhoffmania]

I for one am very excited that we're going to get Stanton for John Lackey. I'd even throw in Stephen Drew if that helps get it done.

 
You make fun, but the one thing that would reduce my anger about Lester is if they could somehow get Stanton for Lackey and a combo or prospects.

 

[Laser Show]

In what world would the Marlins want John lackey for next season, but not Giancarlo Stanton?

The only reason I can convince myself that this world exists is Jeffrey Loria.

 

[Foulkey Reese]

This thread rules

 

[FelixMantilla]

 
Just ... wow

 
You are easily surprised, aren't you?

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I do make fun, yes. And if the Marlins decided they wanted to trade for a good starting pitcher while dealing their young, dynamic power-hitter, and did so by taking John Lackey and a bunch of our top rated prospects, I would make fun of them even more than that.

 

[glennhoffmania]

In what world would the Marlins want John lackey for next season, but not Giancarlo Stanton?

 
Settle down.  I didn't say I think it will happen or even could happen.  I said it would make me happy.

 

[TomRicardo]

I for one am very excited that we're going to get Stanton for John Lackey. I'd even throw in Stephen Drew if that helps get it done.

 
Funny because I can see the Marlins being very interested in a heavily subsidized Drew as would the Pirates.
 
Edit - this in no way implies I think Stanton is coming back.

 

[TomRicardo]

In what world would the Marlins want John lackey for next season, but not Giancarlo Stanton?

 
Lackey will make league minimum.  LORIA LOVES LEAGUE MINIMUM.
 

 

[Corsi]

The Marlins, baseball's hottest team, are seeking a starter but don't at the moment seem focused on either of Boston's two big starters, Jon Lester or John Lackey.
Miami would prefer a young starter with contollable years, such as Arizona's Wade Miley or Oakland's Tommy Milone. The Diamondbacks have been reluctant to trade Miley, though
 

http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/writer/jon-heyman/24643395/red-hot-marlins-seeking-a-starting-pitcher-lester-lackey-unlikely

 

[Mahow Mahow]

Jon Morosi @jonmorosi · 27s


Cubs close to acquiring Felix Doubront from Red Sox.

 

[Curll]

I hope its for Ryan Kalish or a random front office guy with quantitative upside.

 

[brandonchristensen]

Jon Morosi @jonmorosihttps://twitter.com/jonmorosi ·  [URL="https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/494560674429669376

https://twitter.com/jonmorosi/status/494560674429669376"]27s

link to tweet[/url]

Cubs close to acquiring Felix Doubront from Red Sox.


Theo...you've DONE IT AGAIN

 

[SemperFidelisSox]

Cafardo says Freddy Sanchez's locker is empty. Stay tuned.

 

[brandonchristensen]

Cafardo says Freddy Sanchez's locker is empty. Stay tuned.

The Giants?

 

[Red(s)HawksFan]

Ortiz out of the lineup tonight.
 
Duh duh DUHHH

 

[Curll]

Hammel sucked today. Could drive the A's to pay more for Lackey

 

[Harry Hooper]

It's a madhouse!
 

 

[Dan to Theo to Ben]

Ortiz out of the lineup tonight.
 
Duh duh DUHHH

Which Ortiz?

 

[Luis Taint]

Come on

 

[Snodgrass'Muff]

Which Ortiz?

 
Russ. But that's not surprising considering he retired after the 2010 season. And was a pitcher.

 

[Corsi]

https://twitter.com/PeteAbe/status/494571054426505216

 

[Bergs]

Ortiz out of the lineup tonight.
 
Duh duh DUHHH

 
I think he tweaked his knee on a swinging K last night. I imagine with the season functionally over, he'll be seeing some rest.

 

[stp]

Return on Doubront is a player to be named later, a "low level prospect after the rule 5 draft" per ESPN.
 
http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/11286916/felix-doubront-traded-chicago-cubs-boston-red-sox

 

[CaskNFappin]

#Marlins on Lackey, per @jonmorosi. #Indians believed to be (Francona reunion?). Two teams that are not, per sources: #Angels #Brewers— Ken Rosenthal (@Ken_Rosenthal) [URL="https://twitter.com/Ken_Rosenthal/statuses/494567708256903168

30, 2014[/url]

 

[nattysez]

 

Farrell: "Our faith in Ben and the plan that's in place is steadfast."
 
 

https://twitter.com/brianmacp/status/494577631783026688
 
Hilarious.  What plan is that, John?  The one that drove the team straight into the ALE cellar?  Give me a break.

 

[MakMan44]

Really? Because I was under this wild impression that it was the team on field crapping the bed that drove them to the bottom of the standings. 

 

[Snodgrass'Muff]

 
https://twitter.com/brianmacp/status/494577631783026688
 
Hilarious.  What plan is that, John?  The one that drove the team straight into the ALE cellar?  Give me a break.

 
1. What's he supposed to say? "We're a ship without a rudder! Launch the lifeboats!"
2. Having a shitty year does not mean the team should completely abandon their plan and start from scratch. Suggesting they are without a viable plan is a bit ridiculous.