Revis the Jet: Plans to be part of the WH visit

[PedroKsBambino]

 
You don't think discussions took place during the tampering period?  And I am very confident the Pats wouldn't sniff Byron Maxwell at that contract.
 
I don't think a thing would've been different if they didn't hold the 25M option.

 
Agreed--they put a number on a guy and stick there.   McCourty may have been at the edge of that, but Pats had plenty of time to share theirs with Revis and figure out what he thought the market was.  And really, I don't think there's anyone that committed in the tampering period they would have been heavily in on at the prices required even if they knew Revis was gone.  I just don't see how the option mattered here.

Whether they would have kept Browner is a little closer in my mind, but I imagine they made that decision independent of Revis.

 

[ShaneTrot]

Damn John Idzik! He cleaned out their cap situation and got fired for it.

 

[GBrushTWood]

I had a feeling all those dopey rumors back in January about how much Revis loved the Pats were a load of shit. The guy has always been a mercenary and will always be one. He gives not one shred of a fuck about anything other than money. He's entitled to that right though.  In a business where the owners generally treat players like used condoms, he manages to profit more than nearly any other player.
 
This still blows though. What now, bring back Wilfork and Browner? 

 

[Reverend]

https://twitter.com/chicagofakenews/status/575471772230778880

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

Possible this is a lose, Lose, Lose:

1) If I'm the pats I take a breath and do that deal, no problem.
2) Revis going to the clown show with no shot at winning for the rest of his career.
3) the jets paying that much for what won't result in a Super Bowl BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO QUARTERBACK is also stupid.

 

[nattysez]

Tee hee.
 

It’s unclear how close the Patriots came to the offer made by the Jets.  There’s talk that the Patriots actually dropped out of the bidding on Monday, unbeknownst to the Jets.

 
Giggle.

 




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Jeff Howe‏@jeffphowe

I heard from well-connected source who wasn't part of Revis-Pats talks that Pats dropped out ystrday, allowed NYJ to bid against themselves.
 

 

[jsinger121]

Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe  57s57 seconds ago
I heard from well-connected source who wasn't part of Revis-Pats talks that Pats dropped out ystrday, allowed NYJ to bid against themselves
 
Jeff Howe ‏@jeffphowe  54s55 seconds ago
Previous tweet is just a rumor, but it's clearly circulated through the league tonight.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

Tee hee.
 
 
Giggle.

 
Jeff Howe tweeting the same:
 
@jeffphowe I heard from well-connected source who wasn't part of Revis-Pats talks that Pats dropped out ystrday, allowed NYJ to bid against themselves.

 

[EvilEmpire]

The Pats dropping out early when the guaranteed money ended up under $40 million sounds a bit unlikely to me, but who knows.

 

[j44thor]

With all the "jets suck" talk, do people forget NE beat the Jets by a combined 3 pts last season including one win on a blocked FG?

 

[Smiling Joe Hesketh]

With all the "jets suck" talk, do people not forget NE beat the Jets by a combined 3 pts last season including one win on a blocked FG?

They still counted the same as a 45 point win. So who cares? Divisional games are always tough.

 

[SeoulSoxFan]

@AdamSchefter: While specifics of Darrelle Revis' deal are uncertain, this much is not: it will make him the highest-paid CB in NFL history.

 
More details (sorry if posted elsewhere):

• 2015: $16M guaranteed
• 2016: $17M guaranteed
• 2017: $2M roster bonus on the 2nd day league yr) + $13M base ($6 guaranteed)
• 2018: $11M non-guaranteed
• 2019: $11M non-guaranteed

 

[Byrdbrain]

So the rumor is the Pats dropped out of the bidding the day before the bidding was supposed to even begin?
I don't think the Jets will get punished for the tampering but the NFL needs to do something about this.
 
Edit:and by "this" I mean the general tampering and flouting of the rules throughout the NFL

 

[NortheasternPJ]

With all the "jets suck" talk, do people not forget NE beat the Jets by a combined 3 pts last season including one win on a blocked FG?

 
And who was their coach and main defensive game planner?
 
They haven't had a winning season in the last four years.

 

[Ferm Sheller]

They still counted the same as a 45 point win. So who cares? Divisional games are always tough.

And let's not forget that the Jets sucked in their other 14 games.

 

[dcmissle]

Possible this is a lose, Lose, Lose:

1) If I'm the pats I take a breath and do that deal, no problem.
2) Revis going to the clown show with no shot at winning for the rest of his career.
3) the jets paying that much for what won't result in a Super Bowl BECAUSE THEY HAVE NO QUARTERBACK is also stupid.

I think it's quite possible they grab Mariotta at 6. Or if Mariotta somehow goes first, Winston.

I don't know why they wouldn't do this.

 

[RedOctober3829]

I will trust in the system and the plan that Belichick has in place. Losing Revis is a high quality gut punch for sure, but let's see what goes down the rest of the offseason. The corner depth is OK right now. If they get a Cromartie in here, the drop off won't be as drastic as people think. Upgrade the front seven in FA and draft.

12-4 or 13-3 next year again and take our chances in the playoffs with Tom Brady and Bill Belichick.

 

[j44thor]

 
And who was their coach and main defensive game planner?
 
They haven't had a winning season in the last four years.

 
Who is their new coach and main defensive game planner?  Bowles might be a better defensive coach than Ryan.  He certainly got everything he could have out of that AZ defense.  

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

I trust bill, too, and I'm bummed. It will be okay, and we will be competing for a Super Bowl once again in 2015. But I don't agree with this idea that we've got anything approaching depth at corner, unless we're only talking about "depth" behind the two starting CB positions, which are currently empty. There's work to be done. I expect it will get done to an adequate degree.

 

[Red Averages]

At the end of the day the 1 year Revis deal worked perfectly for both sides. Revis chose money with a bad team over less money on a great team which is his choice. Just like any co-worker who chases a big pay day to go to an inferior firm, I wish him well in his new role but ultimately this ship will keep on coasting in the right direction and he'll likely look back in 5-10 years and regret chasing the extra few million. In the interim we move on to fix the hole and he can boost about the cash. Again, thank you for the great year Darrell and good luck with the Jets - I mean that sincerely.

This is much easier than him going to a very good team at close to the same money.

Also anyone wishing for him to blow out his ACL really needs to reevaluate their life. This guy did something great for the team you root for and choose to make more money - something someone as selfish as you would surely do any time it presents itself. Man up.

 

[Drocca]

They still counted the same as a 45 point win. So who cares? Divisional games are always tough.

Maybe his point is that a move such as this could shift a thin margin towards the Jets in their head to heads.

 

[Ed Hillel]

 
More details (sorry if posted elsewhere):

• 2015: $16M guaranteed
• 2016: $17M guaranteed
• 2017: $2M roster bonus on the 2nd day league yr) + $13M base ($6 guaranteed)
• 2018: $11M non-guaranteed
• 2019: $11M non-guaranteed

I'm surprised Revis let them get away with such low salaries years 4 and 5. There's a great chance this entire deal is played out if he remains healthy. Or he holds out after year 3.

 

[kelpapa]

If the Pats dropped out yesterday, I really don't understand the Browner decision. 
 
Oh well. Thanks for the ring, Revis. 

 

[Darnell's Son]

I'm surprised Revis let them get away with such low salaries years 4 and 5. There's a great chance this entire deal is played out if he remains healthy. Or he holds out after year 3.

This is what I was thinking.

 

[bankshot1]

While there's a lot of time to fill needs, with every opponent in the AFC East adding weapons, and the Pats taking a few hits, '15 looks a little tougher right now. 

 

[Mugsy's Walk-Off Bunt]

12 wins, AFCCG, yawn.

 

[Shelterdog]

While there's a lot of time to fill needs, with every opponent in the AFC East adding weapons, and the Pats taking a few hits, '15 looks a little tougher right now. 

 
It does--but then again 16 and 17 are starting to look easier when those Suh/McCoy/Revis contracts get worse as the talent ages.

 

[soxhop411]

I wonder if the pats will trade up in the draft to get someone to replace Revis

 

[Norm Siebern]

I think Revis should have gone after every last dime, and have no ill will at all that he did so. Football is such a brutal, savage game, and these guys have such little time to secure a lifetime of earnings into such a small window, I have absolutely zero problem with any football player chasing the absolute top dollar. These men are literally killing themselves for our benefit. I would hope that every football player went after all they could garner. They deserve evey last dime they get, and I have no problem whatsoever in their getting that dime. Good luck to Revis, I hope he has all the success his supreme talent earns him. 

 

[bankshot1]

Go ahead. Say it...

 Say what?  I don't blame the Pats for not mortgaging the future for Revis. I posted I thought the Jets were going to sign him. I think the Pats can add some players to go deep in the post-season. But not-watching Revis shutdown half the field was a nice change of pace.

 

[Darnell's Son]

 Say what?  I don't blame the Pats for the not mortgaging the future for Revis. I think they can add some players to go deep in the post-season. But not-watching Revis shutdown half the field was a nice change of pace.

I think he meant "The division is now wide open"

 

[MillarTime]

Division is WIDE open!

 

[bankshot1]

HEH
 
my bad

 

[DennyDoyle'sBoil]

More details (sorry if posted elsewhere):

• 2015: $16M guaranteed
• 2016: $17M guaranteed
• 2017: $2M roster bonus on the 2nd day league yr) + $13M base ($6 guaranteed)
• 2018: $11M non-guaranteed
• 2019: $11M non-guaranteed

It will be interesting to see how the Jets structure the cap hit. You'd think they would front load it a bit because they have money under the cap at the moment. But imagine the Patriots came close to matching. What's the best they could hope for in cap hits? Probably something like 2015 10m / 2016 14m /2017 14m/2018 16m (10m dead)/2018 16m (5m dead).

This just is not an option for the Pats. I mean is it theoretically possible? Sure, but this contract was not realistic for this team right now. The most interesting part is that when you see where the Jets were prepared to go, it becomes very unlikely the Browner decision was trying to free up money for Revis. I'm sure the Patriots knew before they decided not to pick up Browner's option that Revis was likely gone. That suggests they just don't see Browner as a $5m player, which I find surprising.

Edit: fix math

 

[Ed Hillel]

Mazz is in full meltdown mode on Twitter over this. It's beautiful.

 

[CantKeepmedown]

Any chance we see Revis and the Jets opening night?

 

[Mystic Merlin]

Mazz is in full meltdown mode on Twitter over this. It's beautiful.

 
He has a gift-wrapped narrative he can use for many shows to come.
 
I mean, how long did it take him to let go of Teixeira?  Has he yet, even?

 

[PeaceSignMoose]

 
I mean, how long did it take him to let go of Teixeira?  Has he yet, even?

 
No, he hasn't.  To this day, Mazz claims that the Red Sox blew that.

 

[Bob Montgomerys Helmet Hat]

 I'm sure the Patriots knew before they decided not to pick up Browner's option that Revis was likely gone. That suggests they just don't see Browner as a $5m player, which I find surprising.

 

Or they liked Browner as a CB opposite Revis, but not in whatever their post-Revis scheme is going to be.

 

[NDame616]

 
No, he hasn't.  To this day, Mazz claims that the Red Sox blew that.

 
MIKE THEY LET HIM GO OVER A FEW MILLION BUCKS! HOW CAN THEY POSSIBLY NOT SIGN HIM FOR THAT?

 

[ragnarok725]

I'm sure the Patriots knew before they decided not to pick up Browner's option that Revis was likely gone. That suggests they just don't see Browner as a $5m player, which I find surprising.

 
It's a little surprising to me, but not THAT surprising. There was a ton of bitching around here about Browner's penalties. He absolutely killed them with penalties this year at times. He also had a few pretty brutal games in coverage against exactly the types of guys we thought he'd be great against - move TEs. An oversized corner that draws a ton of penalties and can't seem to keep up with Coby Fleener... I'm not sure that's a $5M corner either.
 
That's certainly just one side of the thoughts here, but we've developed some rose-colored glasses about all our guys here since they won it all - specifically in the secondary.

 

[E5 Yaz]

In the end, I keep coming back to the thought that Revis is essentially the player's version of the Patriots -- intelligent, ruthless and often cut-throat at the negotiating table.

 
http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4778989/clash-of-two-powerful-forces-in-tale-of-darrelle-revis-and-the-patriots?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[soxhop411]

https://twitter.com/jeffphowe/status/575488793995689984
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@jeffphowe: It's light out. This was done early RT @J1mmyM2: Finally got it done!! @Revis24 is coming home! #RevisIsland #NYJets http://t.co/MHFl5Fv4rK

 

[Three10toLeft]

This feels like the Pats had a wild fling with a girl that decided to finally go home and be faithful to her schlub husband.

Thanks for the wild weekend in Arizona, Revis! Best of luck to you personally, and the complete opposite to the Jets as a whole.

Now let's move on.

 

[( . ) ( . ) and (_!_)]

It's very often that you get to stand in front of the whole world and announce that you want to be a loser

 

[Myt1]

With all the "jets suck" talk, do people not forget NE beat the Jets by a combined 3 pts last season including one win on a blocked FG?

I think you probably didn't mean to have the "not" in there, but generally, I think the people do not forget that they went 4-12 with a -118 point differential and the fifth fewest points per game.
 
But, hey, maybe it makes more sense to just think about those two games. 

 

[Jack Sox]

So um does this mean we get a draft pick from Woody's blatant tampering?

 

[dcmissle]

I'm surprised Revis let them get away with such low salaries years 4 and 5. There's a great chance this entire deal is played out if he remains healthy. Or he holds out after year 3.

Will not be surprised if he pockets $125 million over his career. He is a genius who leaves me awestruck. Financially, he treats NFL owners like Michael treated the other bosses at the end of I. Reiss has it exactly right. Thank God we won the SB.

 

[MentalDisabldLst]

So why did he even sign here for 2014?  He took what will amount to a $12M salary in 2014.  Are we really supposed to believe that this was the peak market value he had at the time?  a 25% discount to his 2013 and 2015 earnings?

 

[kelpapa]

Didn't he actually get $16-17 mill over two years for last year's season?