But why is it "weird"? Why does it need to be addressed? A lot of Edes' audiance does't know T&R and the question wasn't "wacky", it was a legit question in a legit space. Put it this way, the Red Sox have this dog-and-pony show twice a day (before and after the games) aside from figuring out who's hurt (which I am sure most of the beat guys already know) and to announce a transaction, what's the point? From my perspective, the point is to ask the manager questions. That's what Rich did.That's a pretty good point, but there wasn't a whole lot of that in Fred's rant yesterday. Edes wrote a column about Bobby Valentine, not about Toucher and Rich. He mentioned the question Rich asked as a vehicle of showing Bobby V's misguided belief that he's the best man for the job.
Edes didn't say anything negative about the show, or Rich, he just said it was weird for talk show hosts to be at a pre-game PC, and that if they were looking for a reaction out of Bobby V, (which I think it's insane to argue that they were NOT) that they probably didn't get what they wanted.
That's not being condescending, that's not sticking up for the "way things are done" and it's not some sort of warning that these yahoo radio hosts need to shut their mouths when the big boys are talking. It was a throw-away sentence and a half to make a larger point about Bobby Valentine.
Was it the best question, was it a pointed question, I don't know. Personally, I don't think so.
I don't think that T&R would agree with you here because Mazz was certainly talking about how cute it was that Rich was going to his first press conference, Gresh was asking how he (Rich) could get a press pass, there was a story from Newsday (I think) making fun of them, Sports Talk Matt was ripping them. It's just another example of the circling the wagons mentality, just like they jumped on Joe Haggerty for writing about John Lackey walking around double-fisted. I get that sports writers are protective of their turf, they have a nice thing going, but this isn't Kappa Epsilon Gamma. Not everyone wants to be hazed to join the Springstreen Club.OK, but Edes didn't do that. And I got news for you, none of the other writers even mentioned that Rich was there. Edes was the only one, and he hardly was looking down his nose at Rich for being there. Not one other Boston writer has made mention of Rich's question. So I'm not sure what the "BOSTON MEDIA ASSEMBLE" idea has to do with this situation here.
I never said that Edes is a mouth piece for the Sox. And for the third time, I like Edes he does a lot of the site and he seems like a good guy.I don't necessarily disagree with any of this, but again, Edes doesn't do these things. Edes has called for Bobby to be fired several times this season, he has reported a lot on the clubhouse dysfunction, and he wrote a great column ripping on Lucchino's letter to the Season Ticket holders. He's hardly some front office mouthpiece.
I didn't listen to the end of the show (I assume you're meaning today) where Fred admitted that he wanted Bobby to blow up, because yesterday he was very, very adamant that that wasn't their reason for being there at all. Like I said, I think that Fred's rant was mostly on the Boston writers and he just happened to use Gordon Edes as the personification, the focal point, of what's wrong with the Boston media. I happen to agree (about the media). Actually, I was thinking about it today and I think that if newspapers/media outlets really cared about their readership they'd have a new beat writers every two years to keep things fresh.Towards the end of the show I thought Fred was actually being totally honest when he said that T&R is not a sports talk show, they try to make people laugh in the morning. Rich might be the best production guy in the country, and if he asked that question and Bobby blows up then they have material until the end of the season, bits, songs, whatever, and their presence at the press conference was in part to ask a question from the fans but also in part to get a reaction from Bobby, I don't think there's any possible way you can deny that. If Bobby blows up, I doubt they go after Edes, because what Edes wrote really wasn't anything sensational or negative about them.
T&R aren't typical sports talk show hosts, and I think that what they do every morning is refreshing, entertaining, and overall fantastic radio. But flipping out on Edes like that was, IMO, an overreaction due to the fact that they didn't get the bit they wanted from Bobby.