Sepp Blatter resigns, FIFA ExCo members face extradition
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Can't link to Twitter at work, but Grant Wahl reports Gulati saying that a) Prince Ali has a real chance to win, and b) the 2016 US-hosted Copa America Centenario is in jeopardy.
Before he goes on ESPN to bring the hammer of truth, Bob Ley sat down with the temporarily renamed Men In Chuck Blazers.
OilCanShotTupac said:
$110 million in bribes to get it done.
Shocking to hear that a confederation took bribes when they decided to stage an out-of-cycle championship outside of its own territory.
Sadly this is just a cultural issue. In the USA the executives would take the money AFTER the event in the form of bonuses. In the developing world executives want bribe money up front. FIFA (and CONCACAF, and CONMEBOL, and CAF, etc) are simply going to learn from this how to legally skim money off the top.
Example: Roger Goodell's $20 million a year salary, which amounts to far more than Jack Warner was taking per year.
Example: Roger Goodell's $20 million a year salary, which amounts to far more than Jack Warner was taking per year.
I'm not advocating it. I'm saying that the NFL is no better than FIFA (though not Qatar itself) yet is in no legal trouble because their organizational structure is different.
- NFL teams screw over their host cities into paying even more for their stadiums than FIFA does. Minnesota is spending $1.06 billion on a new stadium. Brazil's stadiums averaged about $360 million each.
- The NFL socializes the costs of its games (IE pushing transport and security costs on cities) while privatizing the profits. So does FIFA. That one's a tie.
- NFL owners profit immensely off the players while average salaries are far below those of MLB, the NBA and the NHL. FIFA provides relatively little compensation for world cup players, but that's not the day job of players; players can profit from the world cup as an audition for big name European clubs.
- The NFL is running a blood sport. The life expectancy of NFL players is 21 years shorter than average for Americans. FIFA has chosen to play one world cup in an oven named Qatar, but that was a one time decision.
With the voting getting underway shortly, the thought occurs to me...do we trust FIFA to actually count all the votes correctly? Or is it possible for Blatter to rig the election in his favor?
moly99 said:
So an organization founded in 1904 by European aristocracy and headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland is considered part of the developing world?
I get that we all have the NFL now, but holy shit this is load of crap.
Edit: DLew's response is just about perfect.
Well the developing world does have more votes in FIFA than the developed world.Average Reds said:
Monbo Jumbo said:
Honestly, Blatter's FIFA was the last pure form of mercantilism in existence.
My favorite part in all of this is the revelation that FIFA has a "meditation room" built of onyx at their Zurich headquarters:
Monbo Jumbo said:
It's true that the developing world receives the illusion of power within FIFA in exchange for allowing FIFA to plunder their countries, but this is not the relationship implied in moly's original post. (Or at least how I interpreted it.)
Regardless, as bad as the NFL is, FIFA makes them look like saints.
Average Reds said:
It really looks more and more like a supervillain's lair the more you learn about it.
Apparently there was a bomb threat
http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/2471461/bomb-threat-received-at-fifa-congress-zurich-police-confirm
http://www.espnfc.com/fifa-world-cup/story/2471461/bomb-threat-received-at-fifa-congress-zurich-police-confirm
More of the same. #FIFACongress Stink pic.twitter.com/h2YzD2951S
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Following @jamespiotr on twitter, there's chaos now.
The Palestinian FA wants a vote on certain things and says they've followed the rules to do so. Blatter is ignoring parts of what they've submitted and trying to force vote on only sections he wants.
Not sure how plugged in the guy is, but he says this is going to hurt Blatter and cost him African votes.
Fake Edit: they vote to essentially table the PFA amendment and the PFA is pissed.
The Palestinian FA wants a vote on certain things and says they've followed the rules to do so. Blatter is ignoring parts of what they've submitted and trying to force vote on only sections he wants.
Not sure how plugged in the guy is, but he says this is going to hurt Blatter and cost him African votes.
Fake Edit: they vote to essentially table the PFA amendment and the PFA is pissed.
Nate Silver with an analysis of what it would take to "break FIFA": http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-to-break-fifa/
Essentially, his suggestion is that the OECD countries should break away from FIFA, try to pull in Brazil and Argentina, and form a separate organization, the way the top flight teams formed the Premier League. I just don't see it. Silver assumes Japan and South Korea would want to join the Western countries, as would Brazil and Argentina, because they are bringing in the money but don't get that much back. But nothing any of these countries have said and nothing about the way they've acted in the past suggests that they are unhappy with the actual 1-country-1-vote system.
Essentially, his suggestion is that the OECD countries should break away from FIFA, try to pull in Brazil and Argentina, and form a separate organization, the way the top flight teams formed the Premier League. I just don't see it. Silver assumes Japan and South Korea would want to join the Western countries, as would Brazil and Argentina, because they are bringing in the money but don't get that much back. But nothing any of these countries have said and nothing about the way they've acted in the past suggests that they are unhappy with the actual 1-country-1-vote system.
Question for DLew and others. If you had the power to design a governing body for world soccer, what would it look like? In light of the scandal, it seems that soccer needs something like a constitutional convention.
I'm generally ignorant as to how these things are structured, but have a small window of (perhaps analogous) understanding through following cycling.
Also, is there an international sport that's governed well? Something we could look to as a model?
I'm generally ignorant as to how these things are structured, but have a small window of (perhaps analogous) understanding through following cycling.
Also, is there an international sport that's governed well? Something we could look to as a model?
It would have been the best thing ever if the Swiss Federal Police, stormed the room and just started handcuffing everyone in sight on the livestream.
canderson said:
I know, I know, but the way they're constantly streaming is kind of fascinating. So many idiots.
Thanks to Reddit, you can now have your own musically induced coma...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj0RyqCU1pc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dj0RyqCU1pc
I predict an easy win for Blatter.
Say what you will about the CAF, but once bought they stay bought.
Say what you will about the CAF, but once bought they stay bought.