Sepp Blatter resigns, FIFA ExCo members face extradition

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All 8 countries that have won the World Cup are voting against Blatter.
 

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singaporesoxfan said:
 
Argentina and Brazil and Uruguay too? Now that's really interesting.
 
A TV station in Argentina was reporting that.
 
 

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singaporesoxfan said:
 
Argentina and Brazil and Uruguay too? Now that's really interesting.
Uruguay is the only one that surprises me even a little. Argentina and Brazil FAs have the same problems with him that the FAs of the top Euro countries have. His South/Central American strongholds are the ones that are small and don't have big leagues or money, where he can drop development money and it makes a difference (also some can go missing).
 

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Quick translation of Sepp's remarks:
 
 
104822 It’s certainly with great emotion that I take this microphone at the end of this conference- this 65th congress that is faced with the storm that has shaken us over the last few days. You have shown your interest and your strength which includes your ability to participate in decisions.
 
104920 I thank you but I thank you even more that you are giving me this opportunity to be with you tonight and I’d like to thank you. Thank you for having followed FIFA’s development that started over 40 years ago and thank you for sharing the philosophy of development- philosophical education that we don’t want to stop and that education is continuing.
 
105017 It continues and I am happy to have it continue with you. To continue the work and the engagement that we have made over the years. We don’t need a revolution, but we always need evolution. Yesterday, the day before and again today, I am being blamed for this storm. OK then. OK! I take this responsibility. I take it.
 
105111 I take this responsibility. I take it for myself, and I want to assume this responsibility, I want to come back up, I want to put order at FIFA, with you, together, and right now and tomorrow and after tomorrow in the weeks and months ahead so at the end of my mandate, I could give a strong FIFA, a FIFA that would have weathered the storm, a FIFA integrated in our society that will have enough safeguards to not need political intervention from the right or the left.
 
105219 It’ll be a strong FIFA. I promise you that. I promise you with the energy I possess, I also promise it to you with the love of the game that I have- the game, the football, FIFA. A robust FIFA, a beautiful FIFA, but we need to work at it I can’t do it alone, I need you. I need you because a man can’t do this alone.
 
105259 And here you are- you are the ambassadors of this. All that we are doing, that we have done, and that we will do, it’s simply based on confidence. It’s based on respect, it’s based on fair play. We will change something starting tomorrow: you know FIFA is not only the game, it’s not only a bunch of international associations, FIFA is equally and most importantly the players- the clubs, the leagues.
 
105404 Professional soccer needs better recognition which is why I will initiate a department of professional soccer where representatives of the soccer players, of the clubs and leagues will be present. We have made agreements with club—why did we make it? To ensure that competitions and big international competitions including the World Cup stays in the center of our preoccupations.
 
105510 It’s the World Cup that is our—excuse me, our golden egg. This World Cup we must maintain it and strengthen it. As I’ve told you today, we have the obligation not only to rally against corruption- it’s a word that’s everywhere, we must also keep this organization against all other interferences, should it be racism, manipulations of soccer games, doping, or violence.
 
5613 So soccer, “touch the vote, and prepare a better vote” (?). There’s also this aspect of peace. I spoke about peace today. Ladies and gentlemen there was a document that was circulating in FIFA for 3 years. A document where one of the national associations was hurting, the other was hurting too but maybe a little less. We have managed to reach an agreement, something unprecedented within these two federations. Let’s live in peace, this is FIFA and it will be even more so in the future.
 
5716 The future FIFA should play its role. Its role of unity, to unify. Today, in conflict countries soccer is played everywhere because it gives emotions and hope. We must keep football in the realm of hope and emotions.
 
5757 You know me, I don’t need to present myself. You know who you’re dealing with. I also know that I can count on you when it comes to the issues at hand. We have to take back our image. We have to do it. I ask you- I am with you some would say a long time, others would say too long. But what is time? Time is eternal. I think the time I spent at FIFA is short, and the more we get old, the more time shortens. I am with you simply I would like to stay. I would like to continue with you. I would like to do that.
 
5940 I would like to continue with you. It’s a question of confidence. With me, it’s a question of respect. Fellow delegates, I am at your disposition and if you vote for me, I thank you. Dear friends, soccer is more than a game. Soccer needs a strong leader- experienced, a leader that knows all of the implications. We have to work with our economic and political partners, and we have to work with (?), discipline, fair play, respect. Thank you.
 

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Talk about a conspiracy theory: 
http://as.com/diarioas/2015/05/29/english/1432881880_803945.html
 
"It was a known element. It is only necessary to flick through the excellent book "Foul" by Andrew Jennings, which examines the workings of Fifa, an international Sanhedrin that operates through cooptation and that has in its hands the enormous power of deciding who will host the World Cup, what companies will sponsor it, and who will be given the rights to televise it, and for how much. An opaque space, with a former president – João Havelange -- who was in the post for 25 years and an incumbent who has been there for 17, and is seeking re-election for another four-year term. A framework of corruption and indecency. This picture of an organization that operates for its own enrichment, which has for years been hoarding bribes, is more than credible.
 
However, there is something in the theatrical brutality of this week's series of arrests that disturbs me. The US attorney's office compelled the Swiss police force to burst into a luxury hotel and arrest seven gentlemen, who were neither American nor Swiss. Neither are they members of the Sinaloa cartel. They are accused of accepting bribes from various states and multinationals. It is alleged they kept the money and laundered it in New Jersey. Hence the intervention of the US authorities. But, is it really that big a deal? It strikes me as more of a move against Fifa by the United States. And I can see no motive other than the award of the 2018 World Cup to Russia.
 
Vladimir Putin is refuelling Soviet pride, buttering up China, attacking Ukraine, and challenging the US' world control. Putin is a friend of Sepp Blatter, and Blatter has been warned against this World Cup. This explains the naked intervention of the US in the detention of people who are all citizens of Central and South America, an area the US thinks of as its back patio. Blatter has suddenly found himself with the water lapping around his ankles and the credibility of football has been dealt a vicious blow. Maybe from this point there will emerge a cleaner version of Fifa, but I do not believe that is what is being pursued, but rather denying Russia the 2018 World Cup."
 

DJnVa

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Really great procedure here--bunch of paper ballots dumped on table.
 

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And with 0% of precincts reporting the election is being called for Hereditary president for life SEPP BLATTER.
 

DJnVa

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They could have just done this on Twitter.
 
RT for Blatter
FAV of Prince Ali
 

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tims4wins said:
Bob Ley: this is basically how you elect class president in a US high school
 
Yeah, but they treat it like they're electing a Pope or they're debating something actually important at the UN.
 
 

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So, they're separating piles of paper into 2 piles, which they are then going to count.
 
FIFATOWN!
 

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Average Reds said:
So an organization founded in 1904 by European aristocracy and headquartered in Zurich, Switzerland is considered part of the developing world?
 
I get that we all have the NFL now, but holy shit this is load of crap.
 
You do realize that FIFA is made up of (almost) every country in the world, right? There are way more third world countries in FIFA than first world countries.
 
Average Reds said:
It's true that the developing world receives the illusion of power within FIFA in exchange for allowing FIFA to plunder their countries, but this is not the relationship implied in moly's original post. (Or at least how I interpreted it.)
 
The football associations of the developing world do not merely have the illusion of power within FIFA. They can actually outvote the traditional football powers like England, Germany, etc. Which is how Blatter has maintained his grip on power.
 
I get that criticising poor and small nations may look like imperialism, and progressives may be uncomfortable blaming small third world countries. But I am not blaming the third world countries. I am blaming their corrupt officials.
 

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So, they're separating piles of paper into 2 piles, which they are then going to count.
 
FIFATOWN!
[SIZE=10.5pt]Little known fact. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]All the pieces of paper are blank. The final tally was pre tested with focus groups to identify a realistic final result. The final result will be 198 for Sepp, 10 for the Prince and 1 abstention (The Swiss).[/SIZE]
 

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Of course the loser will pull out even if the winner doesn't get the 67%--no one wants to go through that again.
 

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So, if he doesn't pull out, they need to do that ridiculous process again?
 

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tims4wins said:
What is the logic of the second vote? Why would anyone change their vote?
 
Maybe there were protest votes?
 
Maybe there's usually more candidates?
 
 

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tims4wins said:
What is the logic of the second vote? Why would anyone change their vote?
I think the rules were created in anticipation of multiple candidates.
So if it had been a 3 way race the one with the least support might withdraw and endorse one of the others.
 
Edit- now that tends to happen earlier in the campaign. Like Platini pulling out and his supporters flowing mostly to Ali.
 

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Investor 11 said:
133-73 for Blatter after round 1. 3 votes considered invalid.
So much for Concacaf not supporting Blatter.
 
So based on the numbers, things line up pretty easily.
 
CAF + AFC + Concacaf = 135 - US, Canada, Mexico = 132
 
Uefa + Ofc + Conmebol + (US, Mex, Canada) = 77
 
Probably some deviation in voting from Concacaf and OFC.
 

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Silverdude2167 said:
So much for Concacaf not supporting Blatter
I wouldn't be sure. Blatter probably came pretty close to sweeping Africa and Asia, that's close to 100 votes alone. So he probably got beaten something like 70 to 40 in UEFA, CONCACAF, COMBEMBOL. 
 
I'm sure some of the islands in CONCACAF voted for him, they are some of his tightest allies and they hate the big players in CONCACAF.
 
Platini said that he thought at least 8 of the UEFA members would vote Blatter. I know for sure Spain and Russia announced they would.
 

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tims4wins said:
What is the logic of the second vote? Why would anyone change their vote?
The first round requires two-thirds. Second round requires simple majority, so not changing votes doesn't matter in a two-person contest.
 

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canderson said:
This should be decided with a penalty kick.
 
But requiring only 50 percent on the 2nd vote is LOLtastic. 
 
Eh, it's not that crazy - it's the simplest way to avoid the Gore-Nader issue. If the 3rd+ candidates are all going to withdraw before the vote it's silly, but the intent of allowing a first true vote before going with a second choice candidate isn't a terrible one.
 

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Blatter stating that Oceania deserves more than their current .5 allocation. Maybe that where some of those 133 votes came from
 
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Silverdude2167 said:
[SIZE=10.5pt]Little known fact. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=10.5pt]All the pieces of paper are blank. The final tally was pre tested with focus groups to identify a realistic final result. The final result will be 198 for Sepp, 10 for the Prince and 1 abstention (The Swiss).[/SIZE]
 
I love little-known facts!
 

 
(and because I'm sitting here on hold, why not zoidberg some more?)
 





 

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Investor 11 said:
Blatter stating that Oceania deserves more than their current .5 allocation. Maybe that where some of those 133 votes came from
Just wait until they decide to give them a full 1, with the other .5 coming from CONCACAF.