Since I had the unmitigated gall to mention his lousy YPA in week 1, I'll heap lavish praise on him for that stat being almost league average yesterday.
Yep, and that play to Douglas (video above in my previous post) is a perfect example of what I've been saying for a while. If you pause that video at 2 seconds, just as Pop is for whatever reason, turning his entire body toward the ball and the defender, it's a fucking terrible play. Take the DPI out of it. That ball is going to land outside where the defender can knock it away, and right in the hands of Douglas, IF he just keeps running straight and lets it come over his shoulder.
My HS center use to wear a cup, but that was just as a favor to the QB.
Yea it’s wild. Remember when Cordarrelle grabbed and twisted some defenders nads after being tackled? Shit was hilarious. Plus yea, I can see any clear evidence Mac actually did anything, but see clear evidence of Jets players including Sauce shoving the fuck out of him
When I played in HS many, many, many moons ago, I only wore a cup in practice, never in a game. Thankfully never got punched and/or kicked in the nuts. I fucking HATED wearing a cup.
This is a punch?
You have never had something hit the tip?
We all know Zappe is the answer. We just don’t know what the question is yet.
Sure have. But Sauce said he got hit in the nuts. Maybe his beans are above his frank.
Numbers for Mac if you break it down like you kind of did here.
Serious question--- before the season, how many points were you expecting them to put up against these 3 defenses... which many said were the best in the league (Jets= 86 Bears was one I heard)?
That's a good question and my only answer is "more than that." They are 24th in the league in points scored. It's just not good enough.
Yah but the Dallas D totally dominated the Jets, and... oh $#!T, I see what you did...
As it has been for at least the last 50 years, the question is "who is the most popular player on a struggling team?"
Bingo.
And worse decision making, and worse pocket presence, and worse poise....
People went bananas when he came into the Bears game last year and threw the TD but it was such a horribly placed ball that I thought I was being gaslit by the fans going crazy for him. And the rest of that game more or less proved he stinks too.
I think they have to be able to get into the mid-20''s on a weekly basis to have a chance. I don't think you can win strictly on defense in the NFL anymore. I think the days of an elite defnese and Trent Dilfer/Brad Johnson game manager winning the Super Bowl are over.
Disagree about the playbook. Against the Eagles, the play calls were specifically designed to allow Mac to get the ball out early due to the Pats starting 2 mid-round draftee rookies on the OL. And they actually moved the ball downfield most drives. Against Miami, the OL play was so bad that nothing was going to work; every type of play (run, quick pass, screen, draw, etc) failed due to the OL simply failing to block.
Zappe stinks. The only thing he arguably does better than Mac Jones is be willing to take chances downfield and MAYBE his deep balls to the sideline.
And the INT that Mac threw in that game before "being benched" was a ball that hit the overhead camera wire. Watching live it was a "how can you underthrow someone by that much?", but pretty much all filmwork after pointed it out (unless Mac can throw a ball that changes rotation in flight--- a gyroball?)
This article just posted in the game thread touches a bit upon O'Brien's playbook - https://www.patriots.com/news/after-further-review-evaluating-the-patriots-passing-game-christian-gonzalez-s-p
There is so much good content in this article, I highly recommend to all Pats fans.
I just went through his posting history and it’s pure comedy. Just all Mac hate. I’ll go on record right now as saying I don’t think Mac will ever be a great QB. But like, I root for him and hope for him to do well? It’s crazy how many Pats fans spend every waking moment hating the Pats
We know Mac Jones can throw bombs over man, as evidenced by his days at 'Bama. What he had there that he doesn't have here: DeVonta Smith, Jaylen Waddle, Jerry Jeudy and Henry Ruggs III. We just don't have the men for man. So how does one solve this? With the dink-and-dunk they've done for 3 straight games, and...
...by running through man sets. I would love to see 13 personnel, with Pharoah moving to FB in front of Montgomery. We don't know how PB does as a ball carrier, but he's not hands of stone by any stretch, so having both as backfield receiving options or as runners on short yardage seems awesome, and also opens up play action for the other TEs.
I love the Pats too and I also root for him to do well! The problem is that he a shit QB and outside of one drive per game I'm left feeling let down. I can't stand rooting for the guy, but I do anyway. Maybe he'll figure it out, most likely he won't.
So this comes up a lot, but even if he had those guys in the NFL it wouldn't be the same. Guys are WIDE open all the time in college, the quality of secondary play in the average college game is terrible. He also had incredible lines. You can't compare anyone's college to NFL performance. Every guy in the NFL was a monster in college.... Myles Bryant was one of the best CBs in a major conference, he would be considered an elite defender in college.
It's because he went to Bama and not "THE" OSU. If the Pats had drafted Fields, I think I know who would be at the top of the wall defending him.
Funny enough, those same guys are WIDE open in the pros too. I mean, are folks telling me Mac can't make these throws? Let's not act like Mac played shitty college football competition either. I posted video highlights from his days at Bama, and the opponents were Georgia, LSU, Ohio State, Clemson, Michigan, etc. You know, the same skill position guys who would go on to play in the NFL. We aren't talking about the conference N'Keal Harry and Myles Bryant played in, we're talking about the same team, literally, that Tua, Jalen Hurts, Waddle and Smith came from...
