Week 8 Game Thread
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The ball can begin to move before he loses possession. Why do you guys keep insisting that any movement is key? It's when he loses control that counts.Ed Hillel said:
Stopped frame on the play shows the ball still gripped to his side with his full forearm down.
5 of the first 7 games for Denver are at home, when the weather is ideal in Denver. In other words, as the weather gets bad in Denver later in the season, Peyton will be on the road, not playing in cold and snow. A bad referee call in Denver's favor is SOP.Van Everyman said:
The NFL will do anything it possibly can to make certain Peyton has the optimal chance to win that second ring. Anything.
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/definitionsEd Hillel said:
Fumble: the loss of possession of the ball.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B0rSl7qIcAAH-J8.jpg
That ball is still in his possession at that moment. I'm sure that's the frame that the ref felt was conclusive.
Yeah, well I have Sanders and Manning.
Not sure why you guys are upset about the Hillman personal foul though. If you lead with your helmet, and hit a guy on the ground in his helmet, you are going to get a personal foul every single time. That was about as straight forward as it gets. Add on the fact that the guy was a receiver, and not yet a "runner" and it's even more straightforward. That was a complete no brainer.
Not sure why you guys are upset about the Hillman personal foul though. If you lead with your helmet, and hit a guy on the ground in his helmet, you are going to get a personal foul every single time. That was about as straight forward as it gets. Add on the fact that the guy was a receiver, and not yet a "runner" and it's even more straightforward. That was a complete no brainer.
Looked like he hit him in the shoulder pads and maybe glanced his helmet. I don't think he's still a "receiver" at that point either. He had possession of the ball for a while, and had started the process of getting up to run.Deathofthebambino said:
Exactly. AFC Championship was subzero in 2012; last year it was 75 degrees. FWIW, they are predicting a huge snow season for the mountains this year out here. Come on, Old Man Winter!Ed Hillel said:
Look at the photo I linked to in my edit above.Ed Hillel said:
He still had possession with his elbow down. It doesn't matter if it had started moving if he still had a grip on it tight to his ribs.
Of course the still shot is going to make it look like he had possession, but once the ball starts moving he's losing possession. That's how the rule has been interpreted since I can remember. Mike Carey just said as much.86spike said:
Doesn't matter, though, this is a slaughter.
I agree with you but do you think the reply was conclusive enough to overturn the ruling on the field?86spike said:
Anyone else notice that Denver gets a home game on Thursday the week and a half before they play the Patriots? That is probably just a coincidence that Denver gets the mini bye before they play the Patriots.
Yes, but playing that short week at home is a helluva lot more important than the away game ten days later.Ed Hillel said:
Norm Siebern said:
This game tonight is far more important to Denver and they have to play it on short rest after a Sunday night game.
This game is the shittiest scheduling for Denver all season. I highly doubt they were glad to see it when the schedule came out.
Sick catch
When the pats have a big lead like this, the refs can't wait to throw the flag...
They seem to like the Broncos to be ahead...
When the pats have a big lead like this, the refs can't wait to throw the flag...
They seem to like the Broncos to be ahead...
