At least Mathewson was right handed.grimshaw said:I really hope this isn't another 5 day thing where Victorino replaces him after JBJ faces Steve Carlton, Christy Mathewson, and Randy Johnson.
He will be replaced in the rotation by Warren Spahn.Al Zarilla said:At least Mathewson was right handed.
bosox79 said:Does Betts have the arm to play RF full time? I'd think JBJ would be the long term RF if anything, especially since the Sox like the cf in rf thing.
Hm, it's an interesting choice. RF in Fenway is a big deal but of course they play another 81 games (e.g. road) where CF is arguably a bigger deal. Anyway, I don't think the Sox want to move Mookie around for Bradley right now.bosox79 said:Does Betts have the arm to play RF full time? I'd think JBJ would be the long term RF if anything, especially since the Sox like the cf in rf thing.
Swihart also had nice month of June.mwonow said:That throw was a rope - the runner's best hope was for everyone to get bored while they waited for him at the plate.
In a season like this, I'll take my good moments where I find 'em, and JBJ in the OF (and kids playing well generally - come on down, Mookie and X!) is about what I'm finding with the current crew...
mwonow said:That throw was a rope - the runner's best hope was for everyone to get bored while they waited for him at the plate.
In a season like this, I'll take my good moments where I find 'em, and JBJ in the OF (and kids playing well generally - come on down, Mookie and X!) is about what I'm finding with the current crew...
Can he pitch?shepard50 said:
On the replay they clocked the throw at 95 MPH.
Holy crap that seems fast. I'm sure the momentum of the crow hop adds a couple MPH but still. Damn.shepard50 said:
On the replay they clocked the throw at 95 MPH.
shepard50 said:To watch that throw, see JBJ throw a ball from home plate over the CF wall, and enjoy the statcasting, click this link.
PaulinMyrBch said:So while he has nothing to prove at AAA, his leash at the ML level is short due to the fact that we don't have the luxury of waiting to see if his next 300 AB's are above .240.
jscola85 said:The team is in last place and 9 games out at 47% of the way through the season. While it's plausible they can bounce back and compete, it's highly unlikely. Fangraphs has them at just a 12% chance of making the postseason. There's really no reason to be giving the likes of Alejandro de Aza at bats at the expense of Bradley Jr. Better to give him 250 more PAs this summer and see what they have. If he flops, we're still in last place but at least the team can move on from JBJ. If he succeeds, they're probably also still in last place but at least know they may have a future for JBJ as at least a 4th OF.
I'm not saying outright tank and just give spots to young guys but if the talent difference is relatively the same, give it to the young guy. Right now I don't see the benefit to giving starts to de Aza or innings to Masterson when they can go to guys who have shown they have nothing left to prove in AAA like JBJ and Brian Johnson.
PaulinMyrBch said:Playing 6 v 9 for the month of June would be the definition of an outright tank. I'm all for giving JBJ more opportunities going forward. But the DeAza playing the last three weeks at least put us in 7 v 9 mode.
PaulinMyrBch said:They don't have a choice now. But JBJ, Craig, Rusney, Nava, and Vic put them in a position to trade for 2 outfielders the past month. Time to cash in if you had 2 in the pre-July outfielder trade pool.
No reason except that De Aza has produced as a major leaguer this year but what does that matter right? When Victorino comes off the DL JBJ will be back at McCoy with no role for him here I'd imagine.FanSinceBoggs said:When Hanley returns, there is absolutely no reason to play De Aza over Bradley. Keep Bradley in the lineup for the rest of the season so that the organization can figure out if he should be a starting OF in 2016.
This is exactly what you are saying by removing one OF with a .830 OPS this year with one who is .550 over 500 ABs to "see what we have here."I'm not saying outright tank and just give spots to young guys but if the talent difference is relatively the same, give it to the young guy.
De Aza doesn't have an .830 OPS this year. It's .706.HomeRunBaker said:No reason except that De Aza has produced as a major leaguer this year but what does that matter right? When Victorino comes off the DL JBJ will be back at McCoy with no role for him here I'd imagine.
This is exactly what you are saying by removing one OF with a .830 OPS this year with one who is .550 over 500 ABs to "see what we have here."
.838 with Boston, which I'm sure was what he meant.kieckeredinthehead said:De Aza doesn't have an .830 OPS this year. It's .706.
kieckeredinthehead said:De Aza doesn't have an .830 OPS this year. It's .706.
uncannymanny said:.838 with Boston, which I'm sure was what he meant.
The goal in June has to be to win games.....in late July and August that could change. I don't disagree that JBJ isn't going to lose playing time if he's being productive but it is De Aza who is being productive and not JBJ. He also made two noticeable defensive blunders, one bobbling the ball in the warning track that allowed the runner to get to 3rd and in the 9th by not knowing the game situation which didn't cost us anything however that doesn't discount the mistake/loss of focus.Red(s)HawksFan said:
He has a .838 OPS (before today) in a Red Sox uniform this year. Granted that's just 18 (now 19 games). He's been playing well since he came in. If winning and having the best possible lineup on the field every game is the goal, then you ride De Aza until he cools off.
But with the team 9 games under .500 and 8 games back in the division at the end of June, the notion of playing to win every game now is one of diminishing returns. At some point, you play the guys that will benefit the team down the line, not the guys who are going to be out the door by the end of the year. JBJ is not going to lose playing time to De Aza (or Victorino) if he's being productive in the lineup.
HomeRunBaker said:The goal in June has to be to win games.....in late July and August that could change. I don't disagree that JBJ isn't going to lose playing time if he's being productive but it is De Aza who is being productive and not JBJ. He also made two noticeable defensive blunders, one bobbling the ball in the warning track that allowed the runner to get to 3rd and in the 9th by not knowing the game situation which didn't cost us anything however that doesn't discount the mistake/loss of focus.
Since '95, no team has come back from more than 7 games back after 81 games to reach the playoffs. The worst record for a playoff team after 81 games was 41-40. June is over, as are this team's playoff hopes.HomeRunBaker said:The goal in June has to be to win games.....in late July and August that could change.
For a player looking to make an impression making what could have been a critical mental error in the 9th inning of a close game.....absolutely. It isn't relevant whether he thought there was one more or one less out than there actually was.....it is really a stretch to justify one mental error is better than another when the player doesn't make this choice, it is a random event. I'm more concerned with his inability to hit ML pitching but not going to ignore the physical and the mental error he made today when evaluating the player.Red(s)HawksFan said:Are we really dinging JBJ for playing for a fourth out? I get that it can be perceived as a lack of focus or concentration or whatever, but I'd rather he play like there's less than three outs all the time instead of risking him playing the 2nd out of an inning like it was the third and really costing the team something.
kieckeredinthehead said:Since '95, no team has come back from more than 7 games back after 81 games to reach the playoffs. The worst record for a playoff team after 81 games was 41-40. June is over, as are this team's playoff hopes.
2012 A's were 39 - 42 after 81, 11 out, and ended up winning the AL West.Max Power said:
Do you have a source for that? Because I just randomly picked the 2007 Colorado Rockies and found that they were 39-42 after 81 games and 8 games back.
kieckeredinthehead said:Still trying to find an example of a team that was 38-43 that made it, which is the (hilariously unlikely) best case scenario for Boston.
The Dodgers remain five games below .500 after the first 81 games, but have climbed to within four games of the NL West Division leading Arizona Diamondbacks.
kieckeredinthehead said:Since '95, no team has come back from more than 7 games back after 81 games to reach the playoffs. The worst record for a playoff team after 81 games was 41-40. June is over, as are this team's playoff hopes.
Yea but JBJ came up for a few games and and went 0 for 10 before he went down. Show us 3 or 4 hits then and maybe he's a better option than a trade. He had year another shot earlier this season. And again I hope the bat doesn't stall at AAAA, but I need to see it.Red(s)HawksFan said:
I'd cross JBJ right off that list, arguably Castillo too. The injuries to Nava and Victorino and the ineptitude of Craig led to them trading for Peguero and De Aza to fill the back-up OF spot. JBJ wasn't ever expected to be a 4th outfielder bench player this season, so when that need arose, they weren't about to call him up to sit 4-5 days a week.
He's been the hottest hitter in Pawtucket all season. It's not as though he hasn't earned his way back to the big club now that there's regular playing time for him. His playing regularly for the next couple months if not the rest of the season, good or bad, isn't going to be the reason for the team's demise. They dug that hole without him.
We lost two of three to Baltimore...HomeRunBaker said:Good job to the Research Team LOL! Anyway it's all semantics......using kiecker's study we punt Game 4 in 2004 since nobody has come back from 3-0 to win the ALCS before......bottom line is that we are still competing to win a playoff berth and aren't packing up the tent in June after winning 4 consecutive 3-game series. There will be plenty of time to get JBJ another extended look in August and September if/when we are out of the race but until then it's pretty clear De Aza today is the better ML player.